A constructed video of Trump figure shooting media figures in church mass shooting was shown..

[Grasswire2]

......at his Miami resort recently.

Trigger warning.


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[Grasswire2]

1. another link

NYT

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[AJT]

2. This can't be true.

[Dorian Gray]

3. It's sickening....

truly sickening.

[Newest Reality]

5. Despite...

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Despite the fact that it is horrific, and that it depicts him doing something he could never even do, (maybe roll around and sit on some people if he could catch them) now that this is getting around, it may be a tool.

Back to the stochastic, domestic terrorism problem that Trump is.

It's one thing to have a movie, (The Kingsman) depict that, but when it is the pResident doing it, it is only another invitation to his followers to act out. That spells trouble. Real trouble.

Was that their intent? It is gross and deplorable all things considered.

[tblue37]

9. Exactly what I thought when I viewed it. He has cult followers who'll take this as instructions. nt

[ffr]

37. And they'll want him to pardon them so the killings will be 'just.'

Waiting for people everywhere from Fox on down to their followers to be outraged.

I can only imagine the threatening snickering I'm going to here tomorrow from them (the followers, the drones).

[rusty quoin]

31. Yes.

[Leith]

6. Sick fucks

It looks like a scene from The Kingsman. It's a very violent movie, rated R.

That scene was kinda sick, but the violence was that overly done, obviously fake blood flying everywhere, and churchpeople performing gymnastics that ordinary people just aren't able to do.

But.... to put agent orange's face on Colin Firth's body and news outlets' logos over the faces of victims crossed the line. Those people have no sense of what is appropriate and what is not.

[Takket]

7. shown by who, and how?

some magat with photoshop or was this done by a pro and shown on a big screen?

[jmowreader]

53. It was done by a MAGAt

You can find it on YouTube. Or not, as the case may be. This atrocity, it turns out, is over a year old.

[greatauntoftriplets]

8. No way he can move that fast.

[Grasswire2]

10. in another section of the video, "he" pistol whips John McCain and kills...

Obama and others. Maxine Waters, Bernie....

It's addressed: "Hey Liberals"

[Grasswire2]

11. Kills HRC too

....and here's part two.

TRIGGER WARNiNG

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[a kennedy]

12. This is wrong....just wrong.

[brettdale]

13. Taken from kingsman

His supporters get sicker every day.

[brettdale]

14. If Trump is made aware of this video

100% he will retweet it.

[LeftInTX]

18. I'm sure he is....I wonder if he will

[woodsprite]

51. Well, a couple of months ago he met with the guy who produced it. nt

[Jarqui]

15. The part that maybe bothers me more is this video could be used to incite

others (with mental health problems) to kill members of the media.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

20. Don't drag mentally ill people into this.

Sociopaths are the ones who have no consience.
Blame Narcissism sociopathy and authoritarian people. Don't drag traumatized people,schizophrenics,or depressed people. Or others that suffer mental illnesses they are less violent than normal people.

I get sick of the stigma.

[Jarqui]

26. I do not think it is that simple

Further, if I were doing a paper for the New England Journal of Medicine, I might try to distinguish which sorts of mental health conditions might apply and which might not.

But this is a post on a political web site. Not a medical website. So I'm not going to try to sort out which particular mental health problems might apply.

But when you do get around to looking into it, you'll find for example that contrary to you above, some schizophrenics do commit violent acts. So that broad brush doesn't apply in all cases either. In fact, they still do not really know all that they should or need to. It's is very complicated and there is much more yet to be learned than what we presently know.

I think moist of us would agree that a "normal" (which is a term that is up for debate) person would not be inspired to kill members of the media after watching such a video.

The stigma is going to be an ongoing problem because we really don't know much definitively beyond that. There's a lot of work to be done. You can cite a gazillion papers but it is still something being debated and studied.

[Jarqui]

44. I have

I also have a long history of experiences with a variety of mental health conditions in family, friends and co-workers. And I've worked in mental health facilities.

"Sociopaths ... Narcissism sociopathy and authoritarian people" as you claim are NOT the only mental health conditions capable of acting violently against others. Where does pyromania fit? We had one nearly burn down our facility.

"Don't drag traumatized people,schizophrenics,or depressed people. Or others that suffer mental illnesses they are less violent than normal people."

That is simply not accurate. For example:

Violent behaviour among people with schizophrenia: a framework for investigations of causes, and effective treatment, and prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2606714/

Robust evidence has accumulated showing that individuals who develop schizophrenia are at elevated risk when compared to the general population to engage in violence towards others.

http://ijcnmh.arc-publishing.org/editions/15/articles/165

Patients diagnosed with schizophrenia are four to six times more likely to commit a violent crime than the general population.

Some studies say it is lower - like 2.5 times the general population for example. We do not have precise numeric consensus but we have established an elevated incidence of violence towards others with schizophrenia.

Violence and Schizophrenia
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3160236/

A focus on criminal records substantially underestimates the prevalence of aggressive behavior in schizophrenia, and the burden of caring/coping with aggression, threats of violence, and violent acts falls on family members, clinical care staff, those who share housing, police, and staffs of emergency rooms and jails. As Torrey suggests in this issue, the field may have failed to adequately address violence in part due to our eagerness to reduce stigma by emphasizing that persons with schizophrenia are more likely to be victims than perpetrators.

Schizophrenia is but one example.
Like nearly every other mental health affliction, it is complex. There are many factors to consider along with it

No one wants one suffering mental health problems to be burdened with a stigma.
However, we cannot be Trumpian and ignore the basic facts and statistics - even though they are compromised as being very early in our understanding of mental health illnesses.

[Act_of_Reparation]

46. At any point in your exhaustive research did you across the statistic...

...that most violent criminals are not mentally ill? Or that most mentally ill people are not violent?

I'd put good money against your anecdotal experiences that virtually anyone taking up a gun in the name of a political goal is most likely not mentally ill.

[Jarqui]

47. That smoke does not make your original bogus claim valid

It's just trying to move the goal posts while hoping nobody will notice.

[Act_of_Reparation]

48. "My original bogus claim"?

Which would be what, exactly?

[Doodley]

54. I hope you don't feel obligated to justify your post. You stated what is obvious.

That there is a denial or an outrage at the suggestion that this video could incite certain people with certain mental illnesses, only adds to the feeling that too many of us live in an alternate reality.

[LeftInTX]

16. I wonder if the people that made this video made that one:

Big trigger warning. (From 2015) Think it was the same video that showed up on DU on election day 2016

[LeftInTX]

17. Lynrd Skynrd and the producers of the original movie should sue them

[Kali]

28. at least publically condemn it

[I_UndergroundPanther]

19. I could not get past the first 6 seconds

That is so sociopathic.
It's disgusting and wrong.

Trump wants to kill everyone that does not kiss his ugly ass.
Get him out and impeached
I do not trust or support republican sociopath trash.

Those pigs used free bird as the soundtrack how sickening.

Is trump's version of freedom is freedom to kill others? I don't wonder anymore.

[Grasswire2]

21. NEW: the posting account has a connection to Russian Intelligence.

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[LeftInTX]

55. I wondered about that...thanks

[Grasswire2]

22. and the WHCA has responded

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[nolabear]

27. Not the White House. The White House Correspondants.

This was apparently created a year ago but showing it at a supporters’ function is shocking. It needs to be called out.

[Grasswire2]

34. that's what I said. WHCA. nt

[nolabear]

36. Oops. Mea culpa.

[salin]

23. Who thinks that depicting the President as a mass murderer is a good idea? ...

The Trump campaign.

Speechless.

[madaboutharry]

24. This is sick and depraved.

[spanone]

25. That's some sick shit.

[Bluethroughu]

29. Sick

Something is very wrong, on so many levels.

[McCamy Taylor]

30. Sick

He thinks the military will stage a coup to keep him in power when he is impeached but with the traitorous shit he has pulled Pentagon is more likely to arrest him.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

32. Filth for those who inhale it.

[Duppers]

33. Totally despicable!

Sickening and Despicable.

[dawg day]

35. Who showed the video?

What kind of event could this be?

And how much you want to bet that DJT and Jr are jking off to that.

[malaise]

38. This man is absolutely fucking mad

He has to be removed

[BumRushDaShow]

39. Kick!

[MyNameGoesHere]

40. This video reminds me of the DU hack

Same person(s) produced it?

[LeftInTX]

56. I'm surprised at how many of those types of videos are out there

There are hundreds and hundreds of them. It's disgusting.

I guess it's the same type of person, but I don't know if it's the same person or group. The video that showed up on DU was on a Trump Emperor of Mankind channel, then there are whole bunch of Trump Emperor videos and they're all slightly different!!!

Here is the YouTube channel where Sunday's video is from:


https://www.youtube.com/user/MoonBat414/videos

[JHB]

57. I doubt it. The hack video had a lot of imagery that suggested eastern Europe

I'm pretty sure I recall a 2-headed eagle symbol, and Americans would go for bald or golden eagles. There were other things too, but at this point I remember my impressions more than specific items. And I'm not going to poke around to see if I can find it for a rewatch.

The stuff edited into this video are pure triple-distilled American Wingnut Bile. It's all familiar faces and names that they've been axe-grinding over for years: US pols, celebrities, the news organizations RW cable, radio, and websites love to obsess over.

[Botany]

43. Produced in Russia designed to cause divisions in America?

That video was really sick.

[TidalWave46]

45. Point to add.

These people clearly view mass murder as bad ass.

[Grasswire2]

49. first person account by a reporter who was at that Mar a Lardo conference

[link:https://reason.com/2019/10/14/inside-the-pro-trump-conference-where-a-violent-meme-stole-the-show/|

[crickets]

50. Thanks - well written article.

The conference was a glimpse inside the hermetically sealed reality where Trump's most hardcore defenders live, a place where the president is besieged on all sides by an incredible conspiracy to delegitimize and remove him from office. This wide-ranging plot involves the intelligence community, the press, the largest social media companies on Earth, and possibly several foreign governments, depending on which version of the story you hear.

Ciamramella's observations regarding the tone of the event and the caliber of the crowd attending, Don Jr. in particular, are chilling and on point.

[exboyfil]

52. Pathetic you have to get reporting from a journalist

from a Libertarian magazine. The fact they want to hide this crap from the general public should be a good indication that what they are doing is not healthy, rational, sane, ethical, moral, etc.