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no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:28 AM Oct 2019

My mayor is the son of a Syrian refugee and he's Muslim. This is his take on Turkey/Syria:

October 10 at 12:15 AM ·

The issue in Syria has become multilayered and extremely complicated for anyone to simply decide that Trump pulling out of northern Syria and Turkey attacking the Syrian Defense Forces is a breaking point toward the worse. To those concerned about our credibility, I assure you that it has been lost when Obama couldn’t uphold his redline threat. Instead, he allowed Iran, Russia, and Assad to ethnically cleanse entire regions by turning a blind eye to the bombardment that caused millions to flee their homes without the ability to return.

With operation Peace Spring, millions of refugees can return to their motherland. Millions who were not welcomed by many countries around the world as those countries stood by watching over half million Syrians get killed in cold blood and millions other displaced. Those who were forced to flee may now be able to return and rebuild their motherland.

No one really knows how this operation will end but I am willing to accept the risks under the current conditions for a possible safe zone for the Syrian people to finally live with some stability.

My first hand account of the Syrians that I have seen on the ground, under the constant bombardment by Assad and Russia, tells me that we have nothing to worry about. Syrians from different ethnic and religious background can live and work together if given the opportunity to do so. Syrians are also capable of creating and running a democratic system to govern themselves as they have done in the past when they had some room to do so. All they need is a chance and the resources and I hope this operation will provide them both.

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October 13

“Our allies” who everyone is crying about, just forged an alliance with the butcher of #Syria, #Assad.

Instead of negotiating cease fire with Turkey, it was easier for them to forge a deal with #Assad

Is the picture clear now?

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My mayor is the son of a Syrian refugee and he's Muslim. This is his take on Turkey/Syria: (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Oct 2019 OP
Interesting take on the situation Sherman A1 Oct 2019 #1
Agreed, Turkey was the aggressor and already engaged in cruel acts Hav Oct 2019 #4
Very good analogy lunasun Oct 2019 #6
The Kurds lunasun Oct 2019 #2
Is your mayor ismnotwasm Oct 2019 #3
He supports Erdogan 100% only b/c of Turkey no_hypocrisy Oct 2019 #8
Your post moved me to look some things up ismnotwasm Oct 2019 #9
Compromise over genocide is an easy choice. roamer65 Oct 2019 #5
Total drivel Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #7
I wonder why they couldn't set up this safe zone peacefully? LeftInTX Oct 2019 #10
I knew someone from Lebanon who was very upset over Obama/Assad LeftInTX Oct 2019 #11

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. Interesting take on the situation
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 08:24 AM
Oct 2019

I would ask if there ever was a possibility of a ceasefire with Turkey from the point of view of the Kurds?

Sometimes you take the best of a bad deal to survive?

Hav

(5,969 posts)
4. Agreed, Turkey was the aggressor and already engaged in cruel acts
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 09:39 AM
Oct 2019

It's the equivalent of asking an assault victim why she didn't negotiate and appeal to the attacker instead of calling the police. After the initial attack, you go ask for help where you see the highest possibility to get help if you prefer something else than total surrender. Geographically it makes sense as well, I'd suppose.
To blame them for who they ask for help, now, after their supposed allies abandoned them, is adding insult to injury.

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
8. He supports Erdogan 100% only b/c of Turkey
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:27 PM
Oct 2019

allowing so many Syrians (non-Kurds) to take sanctuary in Turkey. He blames Assad for their persecution. He doesn't see the big picture.

ismnotwasm

(41,988 posts)
9. Your post moved me to look some things up
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:36 PM
Oct 2019

( One of the things that I used to love about DU)

He’s not alone, and one of the major thoughts is that the puts a lot of pressure on Iran. There’s talk about different groups of Kurds, although in America we are referencing a specific group that was in front of our Army fighting ISIS. The people I know from West Africa are convinced Saudi Arabia (A country they despise) is behind some of the machinations of this.

It’s an interesting viewpoint for sure, but I can’t say I agree with it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
7. Total drivel
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 10:08 AM
Oct 2019

Obama's red line has zero to do with any of this.

The Kurds were facing genocide, the US abandoned them, they were drowning and reached for any help, so they had to cut a deal with the government of the country that they are currently in. Why would this surprise anyone? After all, this is Syrian territory the Turks have invaded.

LeftInTX

(25,364 posts)
11. I knew someone from Lebanon who was very upset over Obama/Assad
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:30 PM
Oct 2019

I didn't think much of his opinion because he was a Christian and didn't know where he was coming from. He didn't speak English very well, so I didn't ask any further questions. He just said, "That Obama is bad, really bad".

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