Transcript-Gate 5.0 The full Ukrainian transcript will nail down quid pro quo!!!

[skip fox]

Transcript-Gate:

The Deliberate Attempt by the Trump White House to Misrepresent and Hide the Full Transcript of Trump’s Ukrainian Call


Summary: The WH released a highly redacted summary of the Ukrainian call, likely cutting out more explicit references to quid pro quo.

So far, this file is two sections of information and one for links to original documents.

Contents:

–I. Longer, more accurate, word-for-word transcript exists.
–II. The full transcript has eight (8) references to Biden.
–III. Original materials.



(If you find relevant material on his issue, please add it to this thread and I will incorporate in the next version. This file can become a decent recourse for us on this issue.)


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I. A longer, more accurate, word-for-word transcript exists

Dan Bongino on Fox and Friends (10.07.19) claimed the summary of the transcript that the WH released was the entire conversation. He said it is only 11 minutes (of a 30 min. call) because of the time it took the translators to relay the messages. But translators at this level work real-time with the speaker as with speeches the United Nations.

Trump himself continually claimed (as DU member California Republic witnessed) the SUMMARY transcript is word-for-word as at his rally in Minneapolis 10.10,19.

In a 7:30 a.m. tweet on October 9, Trump lied, saying the transcript covered the entire call:

“The so-called Whistleblower, before knowing I was going to release
the exact Transcript, stated that my call with the Ukrainian President
was ‘crazy, frightening, and completely lacking in substance related
to national security.’ This is a very big Lie. Read the Transcript!”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212561976


At rallies in Minneapolis and Lake Charles, Louisiana (October10 &11), Trump continually characterized the document he released as a full transcript despite the fact that it is clearly labeled, in all caps, “MEMORANDUM OF TELEPHONE CONVERSATION.”


Such official characterizations are important because it makes the case behind a subpoena stronger since (much as the release of the MEMORANDUM effectively nullifies all claims of privilege) such a characterization leaves that, itself, open to investigation.


But the whistle-blower claimed a fuller, word-for-word transcript exists. On page 3 of the report. he or she writes:

"In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials
that senior White House officials had intervened to 'lock down' all records
of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the
call that was produced—as is customary—by the White House
Situation Room." (Bottom, p. 3):

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistle-blower-complaint.html


On Morning Joe Oct. 3rd. Congressman Subramanian Raja Krishnamoorthi (D. Illinois) made the same case clearly, even telling how the actual transcription occurred with voice-recognition software and editing.


On Oct. 9th, CNN confirmed the congressman’s points about the creation of the full transcript:

“. . . a State Department interpreter fluent in Ukrainian was providing
real-time translation. And a duty officer from the Situation Room took
notes that would later be paired with a log of the call using voice
recognition software to put together a rough transcript.”

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-call-details-aftermath/index.html


Congressman Agnus King (I. Maine) has also noted its existence:

“Independent Senator Angus King has claimed that some 20 minutes
of the phone call between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President
Volodymyr Zelensky are missing from the White House memo detailing
the conversation.
King told CNN host Anderson Cooper Tuesday that he and his staff had
reconstructed the call using the memo, determining that more than two
thirds of the call time was unaccounted for.
The full transcript of the now-infamous call between the two leaders has
not been released. Though the document makes clear that the read out has
been edited, it is not clear exactly how much has been cut, and what t
hose sections may contain.”

https://www.newsweek.com/senator-king-suggests-least-20-minutes-are-missing-trump-ukraine-call-transcript-1462622


Quoting the above CNN story, Chris Hayes on All In with Chris Hayes spent the initial minutes of A block on the issue of a word-for-word transcript, emphasizing its importance. He claimed that by showing the summary Trump has waved executive privilege making it easier to get with a subpoena. One of Hayes’s guests reenforced that view, however another said the summary may be essentially the entire except for what the ellipses, but was uncertain.


Trump’s call to Ukraine was so troubling, they secreted the full transcript on a highly classified server as CNN reported 10.9.19:

“The scramble and fallout from the call, described by six people familiar
with it, parallels and expands upon details described in the whistleblower
complaint. The anxiety and internal concern reflect a phone conversation
that deeply troubled national security professionals. . . .
At least one National Security Council official alerted the White House's
national security lawyers about the concerns, three sources familiar with
the matter said, a detail that had not been previously disclosed. Those
same lawyers would later order the transcript of the call moved to a highly
classified server typically reserved for code-word classified material.
. . .
The order to move the transcript came from the White House's national
security lawyers to prevent more people from seeing it, according to people
familiar with the situation. It also came after recognition the document
would need to be preserved for legal reasons.”


Ned Price however believes the unaccounted for time was due to the translaters:

"Ned Price
✔@nedprice

This account confirms that Trump and Zelensky spoke through interpreters. That explains why the reconstructed transcript doesn't reflect 30 minutes of dialogue. There's more than enough betrayal captured in the transcript and little need to speculate about what might be omitted."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212563612



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II. The full transcript has eight (8) references to Biden


ABC News claims Trump mentioned Biden eight(8) times, urging Ukraine to help with investigation as did The Wall Street Journal:

“The newly released transcript of President Donald Trump's phone call
with Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskiy reveals that Trump repeatedly
urged him – eight times -- to work with his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani,
to help with investigations, including into former Vice President Joe Biden
and Biden’s son.
The Wall Street Journalfirst reported on Saturday (9.28) that Trump urged Zelenskiy
to work with Giuliani ‘about eight times’ during the July 25 call.” (All ABC):

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/times-trump-urged-ukraines-leader-investigate-biden/story?id=65850945

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176 (I couldn’t get passed the pay-wall)


Yet Trump on the SUMMARY transcript only mentions Biden one (1) time.

“A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your
v ery good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people
involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the_
mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to
call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General.
Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very
capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. . . .
(my ellision) The other thing. There's a lot of talk about Biden's son,
that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find
out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General
would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the
prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-transcript-read-ukraine-president-phone-call-transcript-pdf-released-today-joe-biden-crowdstrike-2019-09-25/


Where are the seven or so other times? Are they more explicit about quid pro quo? If Trump and his people made the summary we can count on the fact that the other references are more damning to The President. If we got only 11 mins. of a 30 min. call and that was terrible for Trump, imagine what is in the full 30 min. call!

They even rushed out the summary so no one would think to ask for (or subpoena) the full, word-for-word transcript of the entire 30 min. conversation.

But now that they’ve given us a SUMMARY the subpoena should have great appeal to a judge: after all they represented the summary as indicative of the entire. The Congress has a right to see if this is so.




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III. Original materials

Full text of whistle-blower complaint can be found at NY Times, Politico, and Fox:


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistle-blower-complaint.html

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/09/26/read-the-trump-ukraine-whistleblower-complaint-002239

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whistleblower-complaint-on-trump-ukraine-call-read-the-document



CBS has the full SUMMARY transcript:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-transcript-read-ukraine-president-phone-call-transcript-pdf-released-today-joe-biden-crowdstrike-2019-09-25/

[sharedvalues]

1. It's already nailed down.

I’m sure the deleted transcript sections are even worse.

But there is already evidence of a quid pro quo.

[jpak]

2. I smell an 18 minute gap in that transcripts future

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It will never be released and possibly "bleached" from the classified server.

Yup

[skip fox]

3. Of course you're right,

but some of these jerks (Republican senators/spokesmen/right-wing commentators) still deny the obvious quid pro quo which exists in the released memorandum. If a more detailed transcript exists, as it probably does, and it shows quid pro quo more clearly and/or insistently, as is highly likely, then these jokers won't be able to sway as many of the public as they already have.