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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:09 PM Oct 2019

Fort Worth shooting: Nephew describes moments before shooting

An 8-year-old boy was in the room when his aunt was fatally shot while playing video games in her home by a Fort Worth officer who never announced that he was a police officer, authorities and the family confirmed.

Investigators were scheduled Monday to interview the officer who shot Atatiana "Tay" Jefferson, 28, early Saturday morning, police Lt.
Brandon O’Neil said. Police also released audio of a neighbor's calm call to a non-emergency phone number that sent police to the home.

Jefferson, who was black, worked as a pharmaceutical sales representative. The officer, who is white, has served on the force for 18 months, police said. The shooting took place less than two weeks after former Dallas police officer Amber Guyger was convicted of murdering Botham Jean, a black man shot in 2018 as he ate ice cream in his home.

S. Lee Merritt, a lawyer for Jefferson's family, said the victim's nephew told him the duo had been up late playing "Halo" – with the doors open to enjoy the cool fall breeze – when they heard noise outside her bedroom window.

"They looked at each other and listened more intently when they heard it again," Merritt said in a social media post. "Someone was outside."

Merritt said the nephew described how his aunt went to the window to see who was there.

"Suddenly a man's voice was screaming something he couldn't make out, and then 'bang,'" Merritt said. Jefferson fell to the floor. Merritt said he didn't ask the child what he saw next because he didn't want him "to have to relive that" with him.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-worth-shooting-nephew-describes-moments-before-shooting/ar-AAILolt?li=BBnb7Kz

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Fort Worth shooting: Nephew describes moments before shooting (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 OP
4 SECONDS before he murdered Tay MagickMuffin Oct 2019 #1
Remember Tamir Rice? dawg day Oct 2019 #9
I live in Fort Worth MagickMuffin Oct 2019 #24
It wasn't even an emergency call. Lucid Dreamer Oct 2019 #2
A better line of business for the cop would be HAB911 Oct 2019 #3
Better line of business would be making license plates. Or maybe working on a chain gang. Crunchy Frog Oct 2019 #25
+++++++++++ HAB911 Oct 2019 #30
Don't call the cops. Go over yourself and check. maxsolomon Oct 2019 #4
I don't know my neighbors. And in this day and age I certainly would not go to someones open GemDigger Oct 2019 #7
I do, and they know me. maxsolomon Oct 2019 #10
Aren't you lucky. GemDigger Oct 2019 #12
that scenario is an exceedingly remote possibility. maxsolomon Oct 2019 #15
I see your "reason and empathy" working. GemDigger Oct 2019 #17
i see your paranoia working. maxsolomon Oct 2019 #19
No, you see my empathy working for a woman who was shot dead by a cop in GemDigger Oct 2019 #20
How ugly, to blame the poor man trying to be a good neighbor instead of the murderous Maru Kitteh Oct 2019 #13
oh, that's "ugly"? maxsolomon Oct 2019 #16
Well he did actually murder someone. n/t Crunchy Frog Oct 2019 #26
Cold blooded murder malaise Oct 2019 #5
Some additional context about the open door. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #6
Your last line threw me for a loop. GemDigger Oct 2019 #8
Human nature is to blame the victim. maxsolomon Oct 2019 #11
Says the person who heaps blame on her neighbor. How enlightened. Maru Kitteh Oct 2019 #14
the ignore button is right there. maxsolomon Oct 2019 #18
What leads you to say that? LanternWaste Oct 2019 #22
Exactly, her screen door was closed... JCMach1 Oct 2019 #21
I don't have a screen door. cwydro Oct 2019 #23
Heat has been oppressive here this Summer and if I had a screen door, it would have been open JCMach1 Oct 2019 #27
Breaking: Officer Aaron Dean has resigned from the Ft. Worth police force. nt Lucid Dreamer Oct 2019 #28
They claim there was a pistol on the floor. Was that doc03 Oct 2019 #29

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
9. Remember Tamir Rice?
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:14 PM
Oct 2019

Same thing. And not only was there no real danger in each of these, there wasn't even a perception of danger (the Rice murderer was in a car, this murderer was outside and could have moved out of range of any weapon).

How are they vetting and training these cops? These are big city police departments!

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
24. I live in Fort Worth
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 05:01 PM
Oct 2019

It isn't getting any better. The enforcers are never held accountable for their crimes against humanity.

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
2. It wasn't even an emergency call.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:20 PM
Oct 2019

Some neighbor noticed the front door was open and called the non-emerg number just to ask for a welfare check. All the officer had to do is knock and say "Everybody alright?" and everybody is happy.

This will be hard to defend.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
4. Don't call the cops. Go over yourself and check.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:26 PM
Oct 2019

It's your neighbors; you should know them well enough to do that.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
7. I don't know my neighbors. And in this day and age I certainly would not go to someones open
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:03 PM
Oct 2019

door (know them or not) and have the possibility getting shot/harmed in the process.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
10. I do, and they know me.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:16 PM
Oct 2019

They wouldn't shoot me, either, because I'm going to knock and call for them by name.

So I'll amend: IF you know your neighbors, go over and inquire.

Alternately, if you don't know them, STAY THE FUCK OUT OF IT. You call the cops because their door is open on the 1st cool evening of the fall? Mind your own goddamn business.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
12. Aren't you lucky.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:19 PM
Oct 2019

Could you live with your conscious if the following morning you find out your neighbor is dead and you noticed something amiss and you did nothing?

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
15. that scenario is an exceedingly remote possibility.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:27 PM
Oct 2019

particularly in my neighborhood. so yes, i'm lucky that way, but we have all also made a conscious decision to know each other.

cops killing unarmed black people is a less remote possibility.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
20. No, you see my empathy working for a woman who was shot dead by a cop in
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:49 PM
Oct 2019

4 seconds without warning and you are blaming the neighbor for not minding his own fucking business. My empathy would be the same if shw was killed by an intruder.

As far as you TELLING me what to do. Mind your own.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
13. How ugly, to blame the poor man trying to be a good neighbor instead of the murderous
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:22 PM
Oct 2019

jackboot that actually killed the woman.


maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
16. oh, that's "ugly"?
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:31 PM
Oct 2019

calling a police officer a "murderous jackboot" instead of a "jumpy, under-trained incompetent" is kind of ugly, too.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. Some additional context about the open door.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:32 PM
Oct 2019

Friday evening was pretty much the first day since April or May that we (residents of Fort Worth-Dallas) could actually open a door or window to let in the cool air. September had been brutally hot (only one day the entire month the temp got below 94 degrees), and the first week and half of October came in the same hot, muggy way.

I'd imagine a LOT of people in the area took advantage of the cold front to air out the house, let in fresh air and turn off the air conditioner for the first time since last spring. I myself had the patio door open as well as the front door to create a wind tunnel through my place, air it out and enjoy (rather than struggle through) the weather.

I relay this because on another thread, someone was criticizing her (naturally) for simply having the door open.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
8. Your last line threw me for a loop.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:05 PM
Oct 2019

Some people are so … cold, heartless, or just need something to say to get attention.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
11. Human nature is to blame the victim.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:17 PM
Oct 2019

That impulse has to be fought against, with reason and empathy.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
22. What leads you to say that?
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 03:59 PM
Oct 2019

Is it simply an opinion, or have there been anthro/socio-studies done that conclude that?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
23. I don't have a screen door.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 04:00 PM
Oct 2019

My front door has been open since the weather finally cooled off.

Hope this doesn’t mean I’ll be shot.

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
27. Heat has been oppressive here this Summer and if I had a screen door, it would have been open
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 06:01 PM
Oct 2019

and yes, I had my windows open and was playing video games with my 8yo son.

This level of BS, pattern of incompetence (in Ft. Worth) scares the crap out of me.

doc03

(35,340 posts)
29. They claim there was a pistol on the floor. Was that
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 06:34 PM
Oct 2019

the drop weapon cops carry or was it her's? Even if she had the gun in her hand she had the right to defend herself in her own house. Murderers are always getting off because of the damn Castle Docturn or Stand your Ground.

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