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kentuck

(111,098 posts)
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:53 PM Oct 2019

Giuliani is like a tragic figure from a Shakespeare play.

He was praised as "America's Mayor" after 9/11. He had pulled his city together after the terrorist attack.

He was also known as a strict law and order guy. Although his tactics were criticized, the crime rate in NYC dropped dramatically while he was the Mayor.

But, in Shakespearean fashion, he was arrogant beyond the limits of normalcy. He could arrest people but he could never see himself being arrested for anything.

Perhaps his most fatal character flaw was his vulnerability for the limelight. He was power hungry. He saw Donald Trump as a means to getting power and maintaining his need for the limelight.

In the end, as in a Shakespeare play, he will not rejoice in a happy ending. His story will end tragically. Perhaps broke and in prison?

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Giuliani is like a tragic figure from a Shakespeare play. (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2019 OP
Naw, he's always been an arrogant douche. He was just less manic The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #1
or he has always been just another conservative a hole. Thomas Hurt Oct 2019 #2
He's pretty much always been an asshole Trenzalore Oct 2019 #3
Beautifully stated malaise Oct 2019 #4
You some what give him credence and Ahpook Oct 2019 #5
More like one of then comic characters vlyons Oct 2019 #6
Malvolio from 12th Night NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #16
More like a comic figure ... earthside Oct 2019 #7
Falstaff more like. And even Falstaff had issues. irisblue Oct 2019 #8
More like Falstaff in Henry IV Part 1. MineralMan Oct 2019 #9
Retirement has given me the chance to re-read classics. 📚 irisblue Oct 2019 #11
Great idea! MineralMan Oct 2019 #15
More like a washed-up circus barker. lindysalsagal Oct 2019 #10
He thinks he's Iago, the devious manipulator... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #12
Maybe more like Saunder Simcox in Henry VI, "the lyingest knave Tanuki Oct 2019 #13
Shakespeare way too elevated for Giuliani. Golden Raisin Oct 2019 #14

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
1. Naw, he's always been an arrogant douche. He was just less manic
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:54 PM
Oct 2019

and incoherent before he started working for Trump.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
3. He's pretty much always been an asshole
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:55 PM
Oct 2019

He had a good moment right after 9/11 but so did George W. Bush for 15 minutes.

Ahpook

(2,750 posts)
5. You some what give him credence and
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:58 PM
Oct 2019

a bit of sympathy.

Deserves none! Throw that rat fuck in jail asap.

irisblue

(32,980 posts)
8. Falstaff more like. And even Falstaff had issues.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 08:12 PM
Oct 2019

For near a day 18 years ago, that chicken hawk Bush & his minions bawwked around the country on AF 1, leaving a wounded country to grab onto anyone, elected, who acted like an upright caring person. Mr Giuliani looked good those days.

We needed a "hero" he was the closest male, and his mythology was born.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
15. Great idea!
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:38 AM
Oct 2019

I do the same. Many years ago, I read all of the Shakespeare plays. I'm working through them again now.

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
12. He thinks he's Iago, the devious manipulator...
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 08:59 PM
Oct 2019

in reality, he's Puck, who fucks everything thing up, then bemoans "what fools these mortals be."

Apologies to Aristus. I'm sure he'll straighten me out on this one.

Golden Raisin

(4,609 posts)
14. Shakespeare way too elevated for Giuliani.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 09:29 PM
Oct 2019

He's more like one of the frenzied, buffoon-like stock figures from Commedia dell'Arte.

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