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struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:00 PM Oct 2019

'We have reached the bottom'

Chris Riotta New York
1 hour ago

The former White House director to the Office of Government Ethics said ... “Hi. There is no level of corruption greater than a President participating in the award of a contract to himself” ...

“We have reached the bottom,” Mr Shaub wrote. “If the Senate will not act to stop this, there is no government ethics programme. It’s over” ...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-doral-g7-summit-white-house-mick-mulvaney-walter-shaub-a9162441.html

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'We have reached the bottom' (Original Post) struggle4progress Oct 2019 OP
His golf club was sued for bedbugs struggle4progress Oct 2019 #1
I'd like to think FirstLight Oct 2019 #3
I hope that you are right... Moostache Oct 2019 #5
That is my fantasy as well. smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #24
I find myself hoping he'll trip and take a tumble down the stairs on Air Force One sop Oct 2019 #34
how about tumble into the tail rotor of a helicopter? Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #46
Maybe bdamomma Oct 2019 #37
Who would want to go to his shithole club? sheshe2 Oct 2019 #26
#BedBugSummit was trending on Twitter earlier today meow2u3 Oct 2019 #39
Movies list - hilarious! klook Oct 2019 #45
A real unforced error struggle4progress Oct 2019 #2
there is no bottom. Kurt V. Oct 2019 #4
Certainly Sherman A1 Oct 2019 #22
Trump can always get worse. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #6
Yup TheRealNorth Oct 2019 #15
Climate change won't be on agenda for G7 at Doral struggle4progress Oct 2019 #7
You think this is the bottom? awesomerwb1 Oct 2019 #8
There is no bottom ismnotwasm Oct 2019 #9
They prove it every day! ...nt 2naSalit Oct 2019 #27
Drowning city to host summit, but "climate change will not be on the agenda" struggle4progress Oct 2019 #10
+1 2naSalit Oct 2019 #28
and even some Florida GOPers have begun to admit the danger Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #47
Chairman Nadler statement struggle4progress Oct 2019 #11
+1 2naSalit Oct 2019 #29
So I'm not clear on this... MontanaMama Oct 2019 #31
Just wait, he will go even lower liberal N proud Oct 2019 #12
No we haven't. (nt) Paladin Oct 2019 #13
Most Americans see a problem: cite payments, brandpromotion struggle4progress Oct 2019 #14
This is SAD kwolf68 Oct 2019 #40
The bottom? Oh, ye of little faith gratuitous Oct 2019 #16
You actually made me MontanaMama Oct 2019 #32
If only we have ...I think we ain't seen nothing yet .. more corruption /destruction to come* lunasun Oct 2019 #17
I'm sure Agolf Twitler has more depths to go to! burrowowl Oct 2019 #18
Is it too late? ddr007 Oct 2019 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #20
He wants bdamomma Oct 2019 #38
nope, sorry. there is no bottom 0rganism Oct 2019 #21
As I have heard it stated before, BarbaRosa Oct 2019 #23
There is no bottom for Trump. smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #25
You'd think so, wouldn't you? Bettie Oct 2019 #30
no, because there is no end to depravity NJCher Oct 2019 #35
... "We say every week ..." StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #33
No we haven't, almost certainly. Crunchy Frog Oct 2019 #36
Not anywhere near the bottom yet... Kablooie Oct 2019 #41
We passed bottom months ago. We could reach China any day now. grantcart Oct 2019 #42
What is over? Ruby the Liberal Oct 2019 #43
In his (warped) mind, since he's going to be impeached anyway, SaulofTucson Oct 2019 #44
Trump is Latin for bottomless pit. We won't hit bottom until just before he's out the door. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #48

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
1. His golf club was sued for bedbugs
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:01 PM
Oct 2019

Trump’s Doral golf club had a bedbug infestation that was so bad that guests sued. This is where Trump will hold the G7 in 2020 ...

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/10/18/trump-bedbugs-g7.html

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
5. I hope that you are right...
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:05 PM
Oct 2019

I wake up each day and hope the lead story is his fatal heart attack in the night...so far unrequited, but there's always tomorrow!!!

sop

(10,224 posts)
34. I find myself hoping he'll trip and take a tumble down the stairs on Air Force One
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 07:30 PM
Oct 2019

God forgive me for this, please.

klook

(12,160 posts)
45. Movies list - hilarious!
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:46 PM
Oct 2019

The (ex)Terminator, et al.


How about:
One Flew Over The Bedbug’s Nest
Bad News Bugs
Bugspray
The Grand Pest Hotel
A Bug’s Purpose
Bug Day Afternoon
Bug Night
Bug Trouble in Little China

or others that work without editing:
Parasite
Rashomon
There Will Be Blood
The Exterminating Angel
Squash It

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
2. A real unforced error
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:03 PM
Oct 2019

By Julia Musto | Fox News

The Trump administration's decision to host next year's G7 summit at the Trump National Doral Golf Club was a "real unforced error," Fox News contributor Andrew McCarthy said Friday ...

"So, to give them this kind of grist to continue the investigations they're doing and to push courts for things like, you know, they're demanding the president's business records and tax records and all that stuff, it just seems to me he's giving them a gift," McCarthy said.

"It's asking to be investigated under circumstances where he's being investigated left, right and center," McCarthy added ...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/andrew-mccarthy-trump-doral-resort-g7

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,792 posts)
6. Trump can always get worse.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:05 PM
Oct 2019

Just when you think he’s reached the bottom he’ll come up with something even worse. “Hold my beer.”

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
7. Climate change won't be on agenda for G7 at Doral
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:06 PM
Oct 2019

BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
OCT 18, 2019

One of the most overlooked parts of White House chief-of-staff Mick Mulvaney's career self-immolation on Thursday was this tidbit that he dropped in while discussing why Trump's Doral property in Florida was the only possible place for the G7 Summit to be held next year. (The indefatigable David Fahrenthold of the Washington Post thus far has searched in vain for any other locations that were considered) ...

“Climate change will not be on the agenda,” Mick Mulvaney told reporters, without elaborating ...


It's as typically idiotic for this administration* to decide unilaterally that the climate crisis will not be on the agenda as it is typically corrupt for this administration* to incarcerate the leaders of the western world at one of the president*'s lesser properties. How do they plan to keep the climate crisis off the agenda? By threatening to throw the offending representatives out of Doral? Delegates might show up in Greta Thunberg masks if that were the threatened penalty.

Of course, the real joker in this deck is that, unless something is done about the climate crisis, Doral is going to be a home for the surviving mutant fish by the middle of the century ...

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29517172/donald-trump-climate-change-g7-doral/

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
8. You think this is the bottom?
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:07 PM
Oct 2019

Not even close. There's no bottom with that gang and the new flavor of KGOP cheerleader and enablers.

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
10. Drowning city to host summit, but "climate change will not be on the agenda"
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:10 PM
Oct 2019

JESS NELSON | OCTOBER 18, 2019 | 1:02PM

... Miami is in a race against time to avoid becoming the next Atlantis. The seas here are rising faster than most other parts of the world due to the ocean currents and Miami's geographic coordinates. South Florida is built mostly on porous limestone, which allows water to seep through the city's foundation like Swiss cheese. The heating of the ocean and melting of the ice caps is an imminent threat to South Florida, and that's aside from the fact that Atlantic hurricanes will grow larger, intensify faster, and dump more rain on the Sunshine State.

Trump's Doral resort is already located in a vulnerable low-lying area susceptible to flooding, and it will eventually be underwater when the sea rises six feet, according to data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The most recent report from the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says that, without systemic change, oceans will rise faster than humans can adapt ...

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/2020-g7-summit-will-be-held-in-miami-but-climate-change-wont-be-on-agenda-11295315

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
11. Chairman Nadler statement
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:11 PM
Oct 2019

OCTOBER 18, 2019

Washington, D.C.- Today, House Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) released the following statement ...

“The Administration’s announcement that President Trump’s Doral Miami resort will be the site of the next G7 summit is among the most brazen examples yet of the President’s corruption. He is exploiting his office and making official U.S. government decisions for his personal financial gain. The Emoluments Clauses of the Constitution exist to prevent exactly this kind of corruption. The Committee will continue investigating, litigating and legislating regarding these matters—including pressing for answers to our prior requests about the G7 selection process—but we will not allow this latest abuse of power to distract from Congress’ efforts to get to the bottom of the President’s interference in the 2020 election” ...

https://communityjournal.net/chairman-nadler-statement-on-trump-hosting-g7-at-his-doral-resort-in-miami/

MontanaMama

(23,334 posts)
31. So I'm not clear on this...
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 07:23 PM
Oct 2019

Does he get his way? Does he get to decide where the G7 is held and what’s on the agenda? Did I miss something? WTAF? Is this a done deal?

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
14. Most Americans see a problem: cite payments, brandpromotion
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:14 PM
Oct 2019

by Joe Mandese
8 hours ago

A majority (54%) of Americans believe it's a problem for the U.S. to host next year's G7 Summit at the President's resort, according to a survey conducted this morning by Pollfish for Research Intelligencer.

Nearly a quarter (24.5%) said they had no problem, while 21.5% said they are not sure.

Nearly a third said it was a problem for ethical reasons, while 9.5% said it was a problem of "appearances." Nearly 10% said they believed it was illegal ...

https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/342189/most-americans-see-problem-hosting-g7-at-president.html

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
17. If only we have ...I think we ain't seen nothing yet .. more corruption /destruction to come*
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:23 PM
Oct 2019

*would like to be wrong

Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

bdamomma

(63,913 posts)
38. He wants
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 08:08 PM
Oct 2019

to be in the Dictators Club, he wants to show the other dictators he can be just as bad, going after allies, who knows we could be next?

0rganism

(23,960 posts)
21. nope, sorry. there is no bottom
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:39 PM
Oct 2019

and it only gets worse from here

our quaint notions of ethical behavior, social norms, and decency have been sacrificed along with our national credibility on the altar of one man's narcissistic delusions

I really feel for the career people, all their hard work destroyed and their ideals trashed in a few short years. we're gonna have to start over and rebuild a whole century of diplomacy and infrastructure that Trump has ruined. i honestly don't see how it can happen.

NJCher

(35,704 posts)
35. no, because there is no end to depravity
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 07:39 PM
Oct 2019

as long as he is in that office, he will continue to shock anyone with a sense of decency.

When he tried to match up the English parents with the state dept. employee who ran over their son and turn the meeting into a reality TV stunt, that was when I realized that no matter what, he will always go lower.

His casual, flippant, off the cuff capitulation to Turkey, costing our allies their homes and in many cases, their lives, and then trying to pass it off as a wise move because sometimes they just have to fight it out.

I am getting to the point where I think I can't tolerate it another second.

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
41. Not anywhere near the bottom yet...
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 08:47 PM
Oct 2019

If Trump isn't removed from office, and all indications point to him staying, he will have more than a year, at minimum, to make money off his position.

Republicans voting for him to remain as president are giving him carte blanche to do anything he wants.

There will be no chance to impeach him a second time so he could act with no fear of consequences.

If he is voted out a year from November he will still have almost 3 months in office before he steps down and that is plenty of time to make one of the world's largest fortunes by selling off America's top secrets to Russian oligarchs.

No, the bottom is much, much, much lower than it is now.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
43. What is over?
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:01 PM
Oct 2019

From my view, its been 3 years of corruption - and the more things aren't addressed, the more things will escalate.

But thank you, Mr Shaub. Its good to remember what things might have looked like when our Constitution was still in effect.

Anyone else notice that the Senate confirmed a handful of new Trump-appointed Heritage Foundation-approved judges yesterday, or am I saying the quiet parts out loud.

SaulofTucson

(34 posts)
44. In his (warped) mind, since he's going to be impeached anyway,
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:08 PM
Oct 2019

why not add to his bottom line in the meantime? The Senate still won't convict him.

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