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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBernie Sanders is like a bad affair from the 80's, unable to commit.
Wants to have a say in everything, but he is faced with the worse thing that can send this country into total ruin, the great fear of making a decision.
He has no clout, means well, but is just a hot airbag coward.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,381 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Link please. I'm guessing that is from another one of his classic goofball threads.
Bucky
(54,041 posts)Mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them
I think it started here ==> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6739759&mesg_id=6739759
It was no truer then than it is now.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)talk about perfect framing.
cali
(114,904 posts)How do you think hundreds of millions got into the ACA for Community Health Centers?
Secondly, Bernie actually picks the issues he focuses on rather carefully.
And he's certainly not afraid of making decisions.
What do you even mean by "unable to commit"?
karynnj
(59,504 posts)ideas in the entire bill - and he fought for them.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)There isn't much I find more frustrating that people that don't show the ability to add any type of context to a post.
The Magistrate
(95,252 posts)"Romney loves America like a tick loves a dog."
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Does this happen often? I haven't read much of the posters prior opinions, but this is weird. Bernie Sanders? Now? Why?
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)At least he gets on TV and gets the word out.
Have you seen his newsletter?
He has a massive amount of things going on.
Go take a look...
Where are all the other congress people - who I don't even know their names?
And what about the repukes who have us going backwards.
You got a problem with Bernie - why don't you add some meat to your post.
Get some specifics out there!
CK_John
(10,005 posts)socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)For which I, and others, are most grateful.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)But, Sanders has never been one to vote against the less than perfect - if it is better than the status quo.
He is a great Senator.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)we like him just fine thank you very much. and he's committed to us for 3 decades- from being Mayor of Burlington and helping to form the Vermont Progressive Party to his tenure as U.S. Senator. Hard to imagine much more commitment than he's shown.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)They picked him as mayor of Burlington. They picked him as their one Congressman and they picked him as their Senator.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Who do you think is a better Senator, and why?
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)donheld
(21,311 posts)MoreGOPoop
(417 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)I think he lives a courageous life and makes courageous stands. If he fails to build coalitions, the onus is on us not on him.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)what do you mean "middle of the road". As for contributing nothing, I think you're misinformed.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Surely you know that?
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Thats why the OP dislikes Bernie so much.
Corporate Dems are easier to control.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)other marvelous stuff that most elected Democrats favor?
Really?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)He dares to think out of the box, to analyze facts and issues for himself. Vermont is so lucky to have him.
I have a good Representative here in California, and I like Barbara Boxer. But boy I really wish that Senator Sanders was MY senator.
Sanders has my respect and admiration. He is committed to the voters, not to the party hacks. That's why I like him.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)As in rubberstamp everything the establishment parties want.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)You obviously don't know anything about the man. He has introduced legislation after legislation into Congress, only to have it blown up by the right wing. That is not the act of a coward. He is solidly a social democrat and his actions are those of a social democrat, hardly someone who can't make up his mind. I agree about him having no clout. He pretty much has to stand alone as one of the few honest Congressmen there, since the others are afraid to stand with him.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Congress is a word used for both Senate and Congress combined, or capitol hill.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)and I think that most political junkies would know that. I think someone in this thread has a Third Way axe to grind. And it ain't you Cleita.
edhopper
(33,606 posts)More than many Blue Dog Dinos. Is having a "D" by his name so important to you?
This is the most inane post I have seen all day.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)As long as VT voters likes what he does in the Senate, why does a letter matter?
Sounds like an irrelevant bug crawled up your bun.
"Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Not to mention a party of 2 - with one leaving - is silly. In addition, we LIKE that he caucuses with the Democrats.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Joe Slowmentum was my senator and thankfully he is retiring. He was at best a conservative Democrat. Sanders is a socialist/liberal. Are you freaked out by independents?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)CK_John
(10,005 posts)Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)to inspire your OP? Because otherwise I don't know what you're talking about. Doesn't sound like Bernie Sanders to me.
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joeybee12
(56,177 posts)con·text
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grantcart
(53,061 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)ElboRuum
(4,717 posts)They give it nice crunch.
20score
(4,769 posts)Yes, I know that's subjective, but there is plenty enough evidence to back it up.
I am disgusted beyond belief.
Webster Green
(13,905 posts)What a clueless fucking post.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,502 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,502 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)seriously. If you ever were.
cali
(114,904 posts)I should be kinder about it and just ignore your posts.
smitra
(290 posts)Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)And you can shove it, CK.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)This did not pass, but it was a hell of a statement and a decision.
Single-Payer, Medicare-for-All Legislation Introduced in Senate and House: Bernie Sanders and Jim McDermott
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I love Bernie. I wish they were all like him.
still_one
(92,372 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)partner here come up with this beauty?
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Solly Mack
(90,780 posts)Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)undeterred
(34,658 posts)tsuki
(11,994 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
AzDar
(14,023 posts)If it's satire, I don't get it. If it's sarcasm...uhhh, neither good nor clever.
If it's for real... even worse.
Bernie For President 2016!!
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NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)because of the 22nd Amendment. See because Bill would be living in the White House and Hillary might ask for his advice...therefore 22nd Amendment.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3292155
But yes, this ranks in the Top 10. No, Top 5.
avebury
(10,952 posts)senator any day. I am stuck with Inhoffe and Coburn.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)Fuck off.
GodlessBiker
(6,314 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,502 posts)jonthebru
(1,034 posts)Tip O'Neill said "All politics is local."
I feel in this generation it should be "All politics is personal."
Everybody seems to think the guy in office isn't doing right for them. Regardless of the fact that what the elected person is doing is for everybody, theoretically anyway.
Constantly on this site people bitch about how the frickin' government is not doing a certain something for them. Well, the coffee has a fragrance when you wake up and it says this nation is about "We, the people..." Not you, or for that matter me, but us.
Senator Bernie Sanders is an Independent who caucuses with the democrats. He gets to say and support things that he feels is correct because he isn't locked into some dogmatic crapola. In the Senate he gets a lot of respect from his fellow Senators and yes, he gets things done.
What the helk more do you want?
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Did it bother you or your buddies?
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=DCC741E9-9736-403F-90DE-AC673747A346
Labor Day, 2012
September 3, 2012
The American people are angry. They are angry that they are being forced to live through the worst recession in our lifetimes - with sky-high unemployment, with millions of people losing their homes and their life savings. They are angry that they will not have a decent retirement, that they can't afford to send their children to college, that they can't afford health insurance and that, in some cases, they can't even buy the food they need to adequately feed their families.
They are angry because they know that this recession was not caused by the middle class and working families of this country. It was not caused by the teachers, firefighters and police officers and their unions who are under attack all over the country. It was not caused by construction workers, factory workers, nurses or childcare workers.
This recession was caused by the greed, recklessness, and illegal behavior on Wall Street. And, what makes people furious is that Wall Street still has not learned its lessons. Instead of investing in the job-creating productive economy providing affordable loans to small and medium size businesses, the CEOs of the largest financial institutions in this country have created the largest gambling casino in the history of the world.
Four years ago, after spending billions of dollars to successfully fight for the de-regulation of Wall Street, the CEOs of the big banks - JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs and the others, went on a losing streak. The enormous bets they made on worthless, complex, and exotic financial instruments went bad, and they stuck the American people with the bill.
Wall Street received the largest taxpayer bailout in the history of the world. But it was not just the $700 billion that Congress approved through the TARP program. As a result of an independent audit that I requested in the Dodd-Frank bill by the non-partisan Government Accountability Office, we now know that the Federal Reserve provided a jaw-dropping $16 trillion in virtually zero interest loans to every major financial institution in this country, large corporations, foreign central banks throughout the world, and some of the wealthiest people in this country.
And, instead of using this money to provide affordable loans to small businesses, instead of putting this money back into the job-creating productive economy, what have they done? They have gone back to their days of running the largest gambling casino in the world. In other words, they have learned nothing.
The American people are angry because they see the great middle class of this country collapsing, poverty increasing and the gap between the very rich and everyone else grow wider. They are angry because they see this great country, which so many of our veterans fought for and died for, becoming an oligarchy - a nation where our economic and political life are controlled by a handful of billionaire families.
In the United States today, we have the most unequal distribution of wealth and income since the 1920s. Today, the wealthiest 400 individuals own more wealth than the bottom half of America - 150 million people.
Today, the six heirs to the Wal-Mart fortune own more wealth than the bottom 30 percent.
Today, the top one percent own 40 percent of all wealth, while the bottom sixty percent owns less than 2 percent. Incredibly, the bottom 40 percent of all Americans own just 3/10ths of one percent of the wealth of the country.
According to a new study from the Federal Reserve, median net worth for middle class families dropped by nearly 40 percent from 2007-2010. That's the equivalent of wiping out 18 years of savings for the average middle class family.
The distribution of income is even worse. If you can believe it, the last study on this subject showed that in 2010, 93 percent of all new income created from the previous year went to the top one percent, while the bottom 99 percent of people had the privilege of enjoying the remaining 7 percent. In other words, the rich are getting much richer while almost everyone else is falling behind.
Not only is this inequality of wealth and income morally grotesque, it is bad economic policy. If working families are deeply in debt, and have little or no income to spend on goods and services, how can we expand the economy and create the millions of jobs we desperately need? There is a limit as to how many yachts, mansions, limos and fancy jewelry the super-rich can buy. We need to put income into the hands of working families.
No, Bernie is to the right of me.
That's how damn socialist I am.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Awesome in every possible way.
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)for that reason he cannot sell his soul to the Democratic party and its corporate masters.
Oh, one more thing... wrong.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)Sanders is one of our best politicians.
a kennedy
(29,699 posts)WTF???? please go back to where you came from.
spanone
(135,861 posts)Response to CK_John (Original post)
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Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)blasted someone from out of the blue and didn't say why. When posters have asked you why, you haven't said anything specific.
What exactly has he done or not done that is getting you upset, John?
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Admit it, you just wanted to read many accolades for Bernie, am I right?
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Really, you post a very inflamatory post about a respected political figure and now you are whining that the replies/board are vile? Poor thing. Boo hoo.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Response to Post removed (Reply #90)
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2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)bluesbassman
(19,379 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:47 PM - Edit history (1)
Unless you're intention was for a whole lot of DUers to post glowing praise about Senator Sanders.
BTW, I'd take Bernie over either one of my two, and they're both Dems!
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Bucky
(54,041 posts)HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)kwolf68
(7,365 posts)Senator Bernie Sanders bashed on Democratic Underground.
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)from what he's doing today?
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Hot airbag coward eh? It seems SOMEONE is, just not Bernie. Try again.
This thread has a lot of failsauce in it...I could make about 10oz from what I see here.