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Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 12:56 AM Oct 2019

I worry that if Trump survives the impeachment trial we could be in even worse danger than now.

We had better hope that the impeachment charges against Trump are egregious enough to sway even Republicans and he is removed from office. If he remains, I believe he could be an even bigger danger than he is now.

Up to now the threat of being removed from office has been hanging over his head. It has been a control of sorts even though he has been unbelievably bold in defying the Constitution.

If he survives he will be absolved of wrongdoing and so embolden to double down on even more criminal operations.
Essentially he will be given carte blanche to run the government in any self serving way he wants because the impeachment threat will be gone.

His only concern will be winning in November and with his new freedom he could become even more wildly lawless and uncontrollable. He could order every kind of vote rigging scheme his toadies could think up without concern for consequences to himself.

Even if he loses on November 3, he will have 2 1/2 months before the new president is sworn in. With nothing left to lose who knows what he would do. He would certainly want to cash in on everything he could before leaving. Might he make a fortune secretly selling off America's top secrets? Who knows?

So if we have to wait until the next election to remove him, it will be difficult to win and even if Trump loses there will be a period afterwards where he could be a serious danger to the future of the country.

I'm glad they aren't rushing into the impeachment trial. They really need to gather as much damning evidence as possible in the hopes that the volume of crimes will turn even Republicans against him.
If not the future is very uncertain.

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I worry that if Trump survives the impeachment trial we could be in even worse danger than now. (Original Post) Kablooie Oct 2019 OP
he's enough of a danger now dweller Oct 2019 #1
No doubt things are going to get bumpy. Arthur_Frain Oct 2019 #2
There's nothing more dangerous than a cornered rat. jcmaine72 Oct 2019 #3
He can be impeached more than just once. Lock him up. Oct 2019 #4
True. But I don't see that happening Buckeyeblue Oct 2019 #8
He's going to continue to destroy the country BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #5
every hour he remains in that office is an even worse danger than now eShirl Oct 2019 #6
He won't be removed. tman Oct 2019 #7
At this point probably not. But it's early yet. Buckeyeblue Oct 2019 #9
Yeah, the articles of impeachment will be worse than Nixon's were. Lock him up. Oct 2019 #10

dweller

(23,665 posts)
1. he's enough of a danger now
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 01:06 AM
Oct 2019

and he can be impeached more than once...
conviction in the senate is only needed once, and he's gone

take a breath, Pelosi has got this !

✌🏼

Arthur_Frain

(1,862 posts)
2. No doubt things are going to get bumpy.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 01:09 AM
Oct 2019

It isn’t just him. As has been discussed in other posts, his supporters aren’t simply going to disappear.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
3. There's nothing more dangerous than a cornered rat.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 01:25 AM
Oct 2019

Or disgusting. He'll gnash his little teeth and send spittle flying everywhere as he snarls and angrily swipes his little claws, but he'll go down eventually.

The question then becomes who does he take down with him? What national secrets does he reveal in his political death throes, so to speak? How much damage will he inflict on our nation as his ship starts taking water and sinks?

It will be quite the spectacle, that's for sure.

Lock him up.

(6,941 posts)
4. He can be impeached more than just once.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 02:35 AM
Oct 2019

Remember we have not seen the un-redacted version of the Mueller Report, nor any of the GJ materials. Barr is sitting on ALL of it.

Buckeyeblue

(5,502 posts)
8. True. But I don't see that happening
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 06:30 AM
Oct 2019

I think we need to take our best shot when we impeach him. Once we get into 2020 the primaries need to be the focus. We need a candidate that will inspire the country.

BigmanPigman

(51,635 posts)
5. He's going to continue to destroy the country
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 02:50 AM
Oct 2019

no matter what Congress does. He will steal as much as possible then destroy the rest. He has zero love for this country. He loves himself and his money. Period.

Buckeyeblue

(5,502 posts)
9. At this point probably not. But it's early yet.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 06:32 AM
Oct 2019

Once he is actually impeached, the Senate Republicans are going to have to take a long, hard look. It will be very telling.

Lock him up.

(6,941 posts)
10. Yeah, the articles of impeachment will be worse than Nixon's were.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 01:27 PM
Oct 2019

Including obstruction of Congress, witness tempering, and coverup (let's hope).

If so, they better measure their own consequences (they don't care about the country).

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