Let's get this straight, Trump didn't ask Ukraine to investigate the Bidens!

[Kingofalldems]

He wanted them to make up evidence and frame them.

Thankfully he got caught.

[PJMcK]

1. You're correct, of course

Now, if the major news organizations would state these facts, perhaps we could move forward.

[unblock]

2. but it's not slowing him down.

he's still trying to pin something unethical on a family member of an opposing candidate.

[lunatica]

3. Yes! Just like a bull in a china shop!

But with half the self awareness, and none of the gentleness!

[diva77]

27. a bully in a china shop

[DURHAM D]

4. Go back a little further...

Trump first wanted Ukraine to manufacture dirt about the 2016 FBI investigation of his connections to Russia.

[Kingofalldems]

6. He's dirty as hell.

[dchill]

26. Don't worry, AG Barr is on that one.

[oasis]

29. Yup, Atty. Gen. Barr's on a mission to keep it going. nt

[dchill]

32. The country needs an AG of its own, too!

[Efilroft Sul]

5. Fabricate, not investigate. You are right.

[sprinkleeninow]

9. Conald's Ukraine call: "FABRICATE, not investigate!"

It has a certain alliteration ring to it!

You are adept; good going! 👍

[calimary]

10. Good one! Fits on a bumper sticker!

[John1956PA]

7. Trump thought that, at least, he would get the Ukrainians to announce "an investigation."

A mere announcement by the Ukrainians of an investigation, even if such never got off the ground (and Trump might have known that it never would), would give Trump grounds to scream at rallies that the Ukrainians knew Joe and Hunter were guilty of whatever slanderous allegations Trump was spewing about the Bidens.

[Kingofalldems]

8. He cannot be allowed to steal another election.

[uponit7771]

16. +1, I've been saying for months that there essentially is no 2020 election seeing Red Don already

... said he's going to cheat then attempted to do so.

There's no way he should be allowed to run for office again

Getting fake dirt on a political opponent should be a thing of value

[ToxMarz]

11. Yes, remember the Obama "investigation" he funded in Hawaii

Trump made the claim about the detectives in April 2011, during an interview with NBC’s “Today” show.

“I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re finding,” Trump told host Meredith Vieira.

“You have people now down there searching, I mean in Hawaii?” she asked.

“Absolutely,” he replied. “And they cannot believe what they’re finding.”


When ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos asked him about the investigators later that month, Trump refused to say what they had found.

“It’s none of your business right now,” he said. “We are going to see what happens.”


CNN’s Anderson Cooper also confronted him about the investigation that month.

“Can you name even one person who your investigators have talked to?” Cooper asked.

“I don’t want to do that right now,” Trump said. “It’s not appropriate right now.”


Tana Goertz, Trump’s Iowa campaign chair and a former “Apprentice” contestant, said last year that the candidate would reveal his findings “when the time is right.”

He’s never told you about it? You’ve never asked him about it? It was unbelievable and you weren’t curious about it?” asked MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell.

“Never was curious once, because he’s not a liar. If they found something, it will come out. The time isn’t right, and guess what? Mr. Trump does what he wants and he’s not going to do it on our time,” she replied.


The time apparently still isn’t right. More than five years after he first made the claim, Trump hasn’t provided any proof that his probe actually happened.

[patphil]

19. According to an informed White House spokesperson:

The time will be right on the 12th of Never.
And that's a long long time.

[maxsolomon]

22. I remember a quote during the 2016 campaign

"I don't talk about that any more". And that was it; on to the next topic.

[LiberalLovinLug]

14. Yes, this

I suppose firstly he would have liked if Hunter actually was guilty of some form of corruption. That this investigation had legs.

But mostly, to have Ukraine announce and begin an investigation. And the reason would be some kind of corruption, using his dad's name to gain advantage in business etc. And more importantly, to drag it out for a full year until the election, with fake news tidbits dropping every couple of months which the MSM would portray as "new developments" in the "Biden family scandal!", making sure to save a whopper for two weeks before November, assuming Joe was our candidate.

[LakeArenal]

12. Eh... Some from column A and some from column B

Actually I thought the post would say he didn’t ask he extorted, ordered, threatened etc.

[malaise]

13. Precisely

and he threatened to withhold money approved by Congress for said favor - a classic shakedown. This was abuse of power.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

15. KR NT

[Scurrilous]

17. ...

[world wide wally]

18. And none of you asshole "Christians" out there even say a word about bearing false witness.

Last I saw, that was one of the "Thou shalt nots"

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. Manufacturing is lower cost in the Ukraine, especially w taxpayer money approved by Congress. . . nt

[IronLionZion]

21. And absolutely no quid pro quo

Just a favor or advantage granted or expected in return for something.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

23. He didn't ask the Urakranian president, he was engaged in extortion.

"No quid pro quo!" has replaced his previous battle cry, "No collusion!"

He probably had never even heard the term "quid pro quo" until the whistleblower brought it up. And he had to have his staff explain to him (with simple diagrams) what it meant.

[Garrett78]

24. He just wanted Ukraine's government to say it was investigating the Bidens and CrowdStrike.

That alone would have given him a talking point and muddy the water.

[Tarheel_Dem]

25. K&R

[NCLefty]

28. 2016 was fake birtherism+fake email scandal. 2020 was fake Hunter scandal.

n/t

[randr]

30. Very important truth

He was only interested in creating the optics of an ongoing investigation. Forget about discovery of any truth.
A tactic the Republicans have been employing for many years.

[FormerDittoHead]

31. This so much.

When you hear the media say the word, "investigate" without telling the WHOLE TRUTH - they're helping Trump spread his lies.

They are doing Trump's work by repeating the code word "corruption".

They also are completely overlooking the whole "Crowdstrike" thing (the *first* thing Trump asked for) along with the implications with Roger Stone and Russian sanctions.

One last thing - where is the WHOLE transcript. Trump has declassified the summary, but we all know that the whole transcript shows Trump asking for Biden dirt seven times...