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So the right wing failed in Canada yesterday (Original Post) malaise Oct 2019 OP
Thank goodness! 2naSalit Oct 2019 #1
Canada's Government DownriverDem Oct 2019 #16
Yes, I know that. 2naSalit Oct 2019 #21
crazy Canucks acting sane while the world goes bonkers Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #2
LOL malaise Oct 2019 #3
Beautiful (in more ways than one) hlthe2b Oct 2019 #5
Just woke up and am seeing this! Thank you, Malaise. That's some really good news to wake up to! hlthe2b Oct 2019 #4
Justin won True Blue American Oct 2019 #6
all i can say is i am glad canada rejected scheer dawn5651 Oct 2019 #7
We didn't, though. The_jackalope Oct 2019 #20
Awesome! Roy Rolling Oct 2019 #8
Good news this morning gademocrat7 Oct 2019 #9
Thank goodness G_j Oct 2019 #10
It's a great day for Canada, Canadians wendyb-NC Oct 2019 #11
It's not like the Liberals didn't have issues knightmaar Oct 2019 #12
I've read the Liberal Party was unable to fulfill that last promise. Hortensis Oct 2019 #17
So glad, but Trudeau is forced to work with a coalition government. Hortensis Oct 2019 #13
And that's a good thing knightmaar Oct 2019 #15
Imo, if you're 20% right, that'll be a good thing. Hortensis Oct 2019 #18
Yes! FM123 Oct 2019 #14
Not entirely The_jackalope Oct 2019 #19

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
6. Justin won
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:33 AM
Oct 2019

Promising progressive actions.

Boris lied to the Queen according to a Court ruling, lost the Brexit vote.

Netanyahu failed to form a Government. Failed to pass a lawsaving him from indictment.

Next?

wendyb-NC

(3,328 posts)
11. It's a great day for Canada, Canadians
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:00 AM
Oct 2019

and democracy loving people everywhere. We need to turn the tide here in this country, no more carpetbagger, would be dictators, who aren't real people. Like the strutting orange menace we currently have.
Maybe it is a sign that sanity is possible.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
12. It's not like the Liberals didn't have issues
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:31 AM
Oct 2019

The SNC Lavalin scandal chief among them.
But they vaguely share values that most of us care about, so we sent more of them to Parliament than Conservatives.

Better yet, from my point of view, the Liberals don't have a majority in Parliament. They have to take allies from amongst the more progressive NDPs in order to win confidence votes and pass budgets.

This means our aboriginal populations will probably get clean drinking water (thanks, JT, for not getting your ass in gear on that) and maybe we all get a government funded pharmacare plan.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. I've read the Liberal Party was unable to fulfill that last promise.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:17 AM
Oct 2019

We know what it's like to be constantly blamed for what the Republicans do, as if we could stop them if we cared to bother, and thus it's really all our fault.

I hope you're right, but good luck to Canada. We know what splitting power between cons and libs leads to. I'm reading the Liberal Party will have to form a coalition with the Greens and the democratic socialists, and other tiny groups.

But the Greens are a miniscule party and the NDPs, already small, have lost a bunch of seats this time. They're all likely to have to work with the sorta-separatist French Catholic Quebecoise a lot, which is not a liberal movement.

Still, if this particular leader is genuinely committed enough to his issues to form a strong, cooperative alliance with the Liberal Party maybe together they'll be able to prevail on some issues over Canada's conservatives. That's open to question. He's softened a bit on part of his we'd-break-before-we'd-compromise stance during the elections, but...

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knightmaar

(748 posts)
15. And that's a good thing
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:00 AM
Oct 2019

He didn't keep enough of his progressive promises.
He will have to ally with the NDP, who have an agenda to:

a) clean up aboriginal drinking water
b) provide a national pharmacare plan
c) not build oil pipelines for tar sands oil

Coalition here is a good thing.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Imo, if you're 20% right, that'll be a good thing.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:33 AM
Oct 2019

This is the real world, and Canada's part of it is starting to look more like our part.



Heading toward 100 years ago now Americans gave their liberal party a strong mandate to reverse the slope, and they did a magnificent job because the people gave them the power.

We'll turn this around when the electorate gives us the power to do that again, and only then. Same for Canada. This election is in no way a sign that that's happening yet. Quite the contrary.

Unfortunately, right now much of the left doesn't know or care what Democrats under Pelosi have passed immediately on taking office, such as our giant democracy reform/anti-corruption bill, H.R. 1, or our important drug affordability bill, H.R. 3. Fortunately others do know and care, but right now too many are nowhere near the commitment to change that the majority of our grandparents had when they empowered the Democrats who created the New Deal. First we change, then we change our nation.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
14. Yes!
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:59 AM
Oct 2019

What Trudeau said about Canada rings true for America too...
"This election is not about the next 4 years. It's about the next 40. Think about the future you want for your kids as you head to the polls. Vote liberal. #ChooseForward"

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
19. Not entirely
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:42 AM
Oct 2019

The Conservatives won the popular vote pretty decisively, 34.5% to 33%. Luckily, we have a gerrymandered, first past the post electoral system, so the proper party "won" anyway.

Sorry to be the skunk at the picnic.

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