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CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:46 AM Oct 2019

Former President Jimmy Carter suffers another fall at his Ga. home

October 22, 2019 at 7:27 AM EDT - Updated October 22 at 7:37 AM

PLAINS, Ga. (WTOC) - Former President Jimmy Carter suffered another fall on Monday.

According to The Carter Center on Twitter, Carter fell Monday evening at his home in Plains, Ga. He’s been admitted to Phoebe Sumter Medical Center for treatment of a minor pelvic fracture.



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Former President Jimmy Carter suffers another fall at his Ga. home (Original Post) CatWoman Oct 2019 OP
Falling is very dangerous for the elderly - as many here would know Jarqui Oct 2019 #1
Falling can be lethal for the elderly. And a "minor" pelvic break??? Texin Oct 2019 #27
"Minor pelvic fracture" Jarqui Oct 2019 #33
Jimmy may need to slow down for a few days... kentuck Oct 2019 #2
Will be thinking of him and sending all the healing thoughts I can. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #3
Hang in there, JImmy. And take it easy. sinkingfeeling Oct 2019 #4
Oh damn at Jimmy's age this could be deadly Botany Oct 2019 #5
Hasn't that changed a lot, tho, Botany? A hip fracture was a slow death Hortensis Oct 2019 #10
My late father had a hip fracture on thanksgiving '18 and he passed by the end of January '19 Botany Oct 2019 #13
"The former president, who walked with a cane, briefly fell Hortensis Oct 2019 #17
My belated condolences to you, Botany eleny Oct 2019 #30
The 86-yr-old mother of a close friend radical noodle Oct 2019 #22
Poor woman to be active and then gone so fast. Hortensis Oct 2019 #24
I'm with you on the quick death radical noodle Oct 2019 #28
:) Just hope I got more than her fine hair. Carter's like her Hortensis Oct 2019 #32
May be having mini strokes? yellowcanine Oct 2019 #6
Often in the elderly, the fall doesn't cause the fracture but a fracture causes the fall StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #7
Very interesting. phylny Oct 2019 #9
My aunt broke a hip when about 95. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2019 #8
A doctor I met suggests its better to stay physically active and risk injury ... Auggie Oct 2019 #11
Jimmy Carter is old school tough world wide wally Oct 2019 #12
Take care of yourself, President Carter! pazzyanne Oct 2019 #14
I lived in Georgia when he was Governor and after he became President. kentuck Oct 2019 #15
Can we be realistic here? llmart Oct 2019 #16
Well said! radical noodle Oct 2019 #26
Too sad malaise Oct 2019 #18
Get well. Pepsidog Oct 2019 #19
I hope he has a full recovery. brer cat Oct 2019 #20
Jimmy, stop climbing up on roofs. Let us younger, 75 year old guys handle that stuff. pangaia Oct 2019 #21
Wishes for healing James48 Oct 2019 #23
I hope he takes elecampane to keep his lungs clear so pneumonia doesn't get a chance to settle in. TheBlackAdder Oct 2019 #25
Pelvic fractures are very painful ismnotwasm Oct 2019 #29
My father had a hip fracture at the age of 78. Texin Oct 2019 #31

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
1. Falling is very dangerous for the elderly - as many here would know
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:51 AM
Oct 2019

Jimmy is going to have to adjust his habits to reduce the risk.

I'm very fond of him. Hoping for a quick recovery.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
27. Falling can be lethal for the elderly. And a "minor" pelvic break???
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:30 AM
Oct 2019

The pelvis may not be a hip, but it's significant. Also, it's worrying that he's fallen twice in quick succession, with injuries. It might be a symptom that the brain tumor is back and spreading.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
33. "Minor pelvic fracture"
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 11:26 AM
Oct 2019

Sounds like it has been cracked - not displaced so there's a good chance it will heal without significant medical intervention - which would be more dangerous for someone elderly. They said he looks forward to recovering at home.

His cancer could have returned and caused it. But there are a lot of medicals reasons why an elderly person like Jimmy could become susceptible to falling. Let's wait and see what they say.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
2. Jimmy may need to slow down for a few days...
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:53 AM
Oct 2019

He's been going at it pretty hard lately.

We need him around.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
5. Oh damn at Jimmy's age this could be deadly
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:22 AM
Oct 2019

A high % of seniors who break their hips do not live very long at all.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Hasn't that changed a lot, tho, Botany? A hip fracture was a slow death
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:00 AM
Oct 2019

for my mother in law 30 years ago, considered too fragile for surgery and tragically condemned to a bedbound misery that made death a mercy, but now they pin most of those back together.

Of course, it's true that most fragile, elderly people don't live very long and true that broken hips are not good indicators for longevity, and it's true that some too demented and/or weak even for today's fixes.

At least Carter is still active and still has most of his marbles at 95, though, and that correlates strongly with increased lifespan.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
13. My late father had a hip fracture on thanksgiving '18 and he passed by the end of January '19
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:27 AM
Oct 2019

W/out more knowledge and a medical degree I don't know what the future is for Jimmy but it
could be close to the end. Often after somebody is bed bound other prior medical problems can
manifest themselves. I hope Jimmy gets back home (when he is ready), gets any needed and
approiate support there, and has a chance to enjoy his time w/family and friends.

Again I hope I am wrong about President Carter's health. Both he and Rosalyn Carter to still
be "out there" building houses for the needy @ their ages is amazing.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. "The former president, who walked with a cane, briefly fell
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:49 AM
Oct 2019

while working on the corbels, helped up by Secret Service agents on site. After standing on his feet for nearly an hour, he took a seat and continued his work."

I think we can assume his life working on construction sites is nearing its end. Very hopeful he'll still be visiting them for a while.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
22. The 86-yr-old mother of a close friend
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:15 AM
Oct 2019

who was at least as active as Jimmy Carter, was working out at the Y, and slipped and fell in the shower there. She died a few days later, while still in the hospital. It's not a death sentence, but there is a big risk factor. Sadly, falling frequently is another bad sign.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Poor woman to be active and then gone so fast.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:24 AM
Oct 2019

I can only wish I'd fall on my head and end it then and there, skip the broken hip and the "old man's friend," pneumonia.

My aunt lived to 103 and started having serious balance problems in her mid 90s. She'd had a couple of cancers that were taken care of, and increasing balance problems and falls were the only reason she had to finally give up living completely on her own and move to assisted living. A broken hip early on didn't do it. She had home care and rehab for that until she was back on her feet again.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
28. I'm with you on the quick death
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:31 AM
Oct 2019

unless I still have something to do, of course!

It sounds as though you have great genes.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. :) Just hope I got more than her fine hair. Carter's like her
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:51 AM
Oct 2019

in skipping the dementia stage and the self-induced physical disability from sitting around. He's seemingly on the same time table for falls too. If the melanoma doesn't recur I'm guessing he has a fair shot at some good years.

Time to go for a walk maybe.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. Often in the elderly, the fall doesn't cause the fracture but a fracture causes the fall
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:41 AM
Oct 2019

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Get well soon, Mr. President!

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
8. My aunt broke a hip when about 95.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:44 AM
Oct 2019

They put a new one on and she continued to live in her apartment until she was 100. So don't give up hope.

Auggie

(31,173 posts)
11. A doctor I met suggests its better to stay physically active and risk injury ...
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:06 AM
Oct 2019

than live sedentary. There are limits, of course, for someone of 90+ years, but as long as the will is there, why not go for it.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
15. I lived in Georgia when he was Governor and after he became President.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:42 AM
Oct 2019

I always thought of Jimmy Carter as an extremely devout Christian man. He has relied on his faith in his God to pull him through whatever crisis he has ever encountered. I'm sure that he will say that whatever happens is God's will. He has the faith of a saint.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
16. Can we be realistic here?
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 09:47 AM
Oct 2019

We all love Jimmy Carter, but the man is 95 years old and it's quite obvious that he isn't going to sit in a rocking chair for whatever remains of his life. Speaking for myself, I'd rather die doing the things that give my life purpose than trying to hang on for another year or two by taking it easy.

So my wishes for this wonderful man is that he is kept comfortable while healing and that his life ends doing whatever gives him pleasure. When that happens, he can go to his "great reward" knowing that he was loved and admired by millions and millions of people.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
31. My father had a hip fracture at the age of 78.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:42 AM
Oct 2019

This was back in about 2000 and he fell off a ladder while hanging sheetrock. (I get the clangs about even geting on a ladder and I'm about a decade and half younger than he was). He underwent surgery and recovered completely, but early on occasionally used a cane for a time. Then his mental health went into a decline sometime around the first of the year, following a major influenza infection. I think the two events so close together walloped him. Obviously, he was probably already in the very early onset of dementia, but had not been evidencing symptoms detectable to any of us at the time. But by April of that year, he was having problems remembering directions and then had a psychotic break. We were totally freaked by this, but his internist told my brother and me that it's very common for the elderly to "fall off a cliff" insofar as their cognitive abilities. He said people can rock along in a coping state for a great deal of time, but a significant illness,certainly any major medical issue such as a hip fracture and major surgery to repair/reset it (primarily caused by anesthesia) can have significant impact on dementia, Alzheimers, and other brain-related issues. My died in 2005 and he didn't recognize any of us by that time.

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