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kentuck

(111,102 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:24 AM Oct 2019

Donald Trump is not fit to be President.

It doesn't matter if he has committed a crime or not. He is simply unfit.

The argument that we cannot overturn the will of the people is nonsense. He was not elected by the will of the people. He lost the popular vote by almost 3 million votes.

The people made a mistake. Just as they made a mistake with Richard M Nixon. It is up to the House and Senate to correct the mistake thru the impeachment process.

No doubt, Trump supporters will be very angry. They may not vote at all in the next election? Perhaps they should think about whether they should ever vote again? They have done our country no favors.

The division that has been created. The hatred that has been revived. The course must be corrected.

It's time to cash in our chips and stop gambling with the lives of the American people.

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Donald Trump is not fit to be President. (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2019 OP
He is more than unfit gab13by13 Oct 2019 #1
Indeed! kentuck Oct 2019 #2
No kidding. calimary Oct 2019 #11
The reason we have an Electoral College is because our wise Founders did not trust... TreasonousBastard Oct 2019 #3
Well said! kentuck Oct 2019 #6
Not quite the reason for the Electoral College. Try slavery. brush Oct 2019 #24
Slavery was in the background of everything back then, but... TreasonousBastard Oct 2019 #26
Slavery/white male supremacy was the backbone..,er, ah...in the brush Oct 2019 #28
This was knowable decades before he ever opened his mouth on Fox News. #americanshame NCLefty Oct 2019 #4
Very true. Scarsdale Oct 2019 #5
In other news ... Martin Eden Oct 2019 #7
That republicans are compromised? Perseus Oct 2019 #9
Donald Trump is not J Edgar Hoover Martin Eden Oct 2019 #13
What makes him "unfit" is the fact that he is in it for himself Perseus Oct 2019 #8
Money does seem to be the primary focus of his existence kentuck Oct 2019 #10
Donald Corruption Trump is both incompetent as a leader and corrupt to his core! UCmeNdc Oct 2019 #12
His supporters believe fervently that Obama created the division & Obama jacked up racism. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #14
Do they believe Obama did that openly or undercover? kentuck Oct 2019 #18
I'm not sure since I read & don't interact. But I think many couldn't tell you. Some could Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #23
Many (most?) Republicans in DC are unfit as well. Let's work to make sure FailureToCommunicate Oct 2019 #15
She won by 2.87 million votes! More than the population Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #16
And the biggest PR mistake.. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #17
I agree, but tell that to Mitch McConnell. He is the one who holds the keys to removing him, and ehrnst Oct 2019 #19
Whatever kompromat they have on McConnell must be a doozie! debsy Oct 2019 #20
this OP title is a forever truth. accurate every day of his life. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2019 #21
Yes,even as a tyrant he fails but not from lack of trying. gordianot Oct 2019 #22
He never was. MineralMan Oct 2019 #25
And in other news... grass is green and water is wet!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #27
Agreed. Also... B Stieg Oct 2019 #29
Bye, Bye marieo1 Oct 2019 #30
The GOP is doing more damage to our country than ISIS could ever dream of. Initech Oct 2019 #31
the man is not fit for ANY job except what he is: CON MAN Skittles Oct 2019 #32
Always remember. warmfeet Oct 2019 #33
He has made bdamomma Oct 2019 #34

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. The reason we have an Electoral College is because our wise Founders did not trust...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:46 AM
Oct 2019

the will of the people. Even if "the people" back then were white male landowners-- "cream of the crop".

And, the Senate originally was elected by state legislators, not directly by the people.

Anyway, the impeachment process was set up as a humane process for correcting the mistakes of the electorate, should the President rule more like a king.

Europe had other ways of dealing with unpopular kings, but our founders thought revolutions, beheadings, poisonings and hangings were not proper ways.

brush

(53,787 posts)
24. Not quite the reason for the Electoral College. Try slavery.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 09:34 AM
Oct 2019
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/electoral-college-has-been-divisive-day-one-180961171/

The Electoral College polarized Americans from its inception. Created by the framers of the Constitution during the 1787 Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, the College was put forth as a way to give citizens the opportunity to vote in presidential elections, with the added safeguard of a group of knowledgeable electors with final say on who would ultimately lead the country, another limit on the burgeoning nation’s democratic ideals.

The story of the Electoral College is also one of slavery—an institution central to the founding of American democracy. The bulk of the new nation’s citizenry resided in cities like Philadelphia and Boston in the North, leaving the South sparsely populated by farmers, plantation owners, other landholders, and, of course, enslaved laborers. This disparity in the population distribution became a core element of the legislative branch, and in turn, the Electoral College.



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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
26. Slavery was in the background of everything back then, but...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:38 AM
Oct 2019

the article doesn't make much of a case for it being behind the EC. It does, however mention the much lower voting pool, and the idea of "overseers" in case the tiny voter pool screwed up.

The battle cry of "Hillary won by three million votes" has a nice ring to it, but it won't get rid of the EC.

(Or Trump)

brush

(53,787 posts)
28. Slavery/white male supremacy was the backbone..,er, ah...in the
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:44 PM
Oct 2019

background of just about everything back then. Maintaining same was always the goal.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
5. Very true.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:10 AM
Oct 2019

He is what he has always been, a "know it all who knows nothing". A blow hard, ignorant, crude, tub of lard. He is his own biggest fan. Now he has put on so much weight, his arms can not reach around, to pat himself on the back.

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
7. In other news ...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:11 AM
Oct 2019

Water is wet.

Donald Trump is mentally and morally unfit to hold any office of public trust.

Egregiously so.

Any normal person who's paid attention knows this.

What does that say about the Republicans in Congress who fight tooth and nail to support and enable him?

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
9. That republicans are compromised?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:16 AM
Oct 2019

I see the panic in their faces, even when they try to defend him.

Like a good mafioso, I believe the creature has compromised many of these republicans, he has dirt on many of them and they know he will use it against them at any time, no one is safe form the creature, he has no sense of loyalty to anyone besides himself and Ivanka.

That is the problem with republicans, they are also unfit to govern, and they are corrupt.

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
13. Donald Trump is not J Edgar Hoover
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:24 AM
Oct 2019

I doubt his widespread support among Republicans in Congress is extortion based on incriminating dirt he has on so many of them.

Most are utterly lacking in ethics and/or afraid of being primaried if they dare to risk the wrath of Donald and his MAGAt base.

Some Rethugs no doubt are every bit as corrupt and deplorable as he is.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
8. What makes him "unfit" is the fact that he is in it for himself
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:12 AM
Oct 2019

That he owes Putin and who knows who else a lot of money, that he is in it to first pay his debts and then to enrich himself. His has a one-track mind, and that is to make money from the position he stole, and being the kind of person he is who doesn't understand anything about consequences, that makes him very dangerous to the USA and the World.

The Taylor "Opening Statement" shows his disregard for human life by holding the security money from Ukraine knowing that Russia is getting ready to attack again, and there would be a huge loss of life, mostly in the Ukraine side, but that doesn't face him at all.

What a horrible human being that SOB is. If there is justice in the World that SOB will end the rest of his life in jail.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
10. Money does seem to be the primary focus of his existence
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:17 AM
Oct 2019

He is a threat to our national security.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
18. Do they believe Obama did that openly or undercover?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:57 AM
Oct 2019

I simply don't recall divisive language from Barack Obama. Almost to a fault, he tried to unite this country. That's the way I recall?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,005 posts)
23. I'm not sure since I read & don't interact. But I think many couldn't tell you. Some could
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 09:12 AM
Oct 2019

I read some forums and see references to that where it is simply accepted so they don't post explanation.

The ones who are racist ideologues know their groupthink lines down cold and would be able to Gish gallop all over the place, if asked. False analogies, conspiracy theories, fake news, lies, ignorant pseudo-science, ancient ignorant conspiracy theories, lack of logic and much stupidity. It's their way.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
15. Many (most?) Republicans in DC are unfit as well. Let's work to make sure
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:30 AM
Oct 2019

THEY are not able to scuttle back into the shadows -and survive Election Day- while we focus solely on evil Donald Trump.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. She won by 2.87 million votes! More than the population
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:37 AM
Oct 2019

in NM, in NE, in ID, in HI, in NH, MN, in MT, in RI, in DE, in SD, in ND, in AK, in VT, and in WY

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. And the biggest PR mistake..
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:42 AM
Oct 2019

Not saying "sure, we don't know exactly how many votes the Russian influence helped Trump because votes are private. But by pure logic, yes, it is very likely the results of the election were affected."

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. I agree, but tell that to Mitch McConnell. He is the one who holds the keys to removing him, and
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:58 AM
Oct 2019

he's not accepting chips to cash in.

What alternative do you suggest?

debsy

(530 posts)
20. Whatever kompromat they have on McConnell must be a doozie!
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:11 AM
Oct 2019

I'm sure they have more than one thing on him and I'm sure somehow it also includes his wife and their relationship with the Chinese government, not to mention his relationship with Russian oligarchs.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
27. And in other news... grass is green and water is wet!!
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:56 AM
Oct 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
29. Agreed. Also...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:24 PM
Oct 2019

tRump doesn't DESERVE to hold the highest office in the land, and every day, he grows more undeserving of the presidency.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
30. Bye, Bye
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:50 PM
Oct 2019

Why can't we just get rid of this degenerate fool!! I am so sick of seeing his ugly mug in the media and all over the internet. Sick, Sick, Sick!!! We all could relax again with him and his cohorts gone!! I hope they all get what they have coming and I for one, will be delighted to see them gone.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
33. Always remember.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:33 PM
Oct 2019

This is part of our legacy. We are not so smart, we are not so exceptional. We, America, elected this abhorrent scumbag. Whether you voted for him or not, we Americans elected him. This is shame that is very difficult to live down. We had better hope that we can attain some degree of forgiveness from the rest of the world.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
34. He has made
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:37 PM
Oct 2019

more enemies for us, well for the next generations in this country. We are going to reap what we sowed. The migrant children when they get older they will seek revenge just like the Kurds they will seek their justice too.

All the more reason why all of us must correct this wrong.

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