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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:31 AM Oct 2019

Trump's newest asinine defense:

“Sure, I pointed a gun at them but they didn’t even see the gun!”

@realDonaldTrump
Neither he (Taylor) or any other witness has provided testimony that the Ukrainians were aware that military aid was being withheld. You can’t have a quid pro quo with no quo.” Congressman John Ratcliffe @foxandfriends Where is the Whistleblower? The Do Nothing Dems case is DEAD!



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Trump's newest asinine defense: (Original Post) kpete Oct 2019 OP
Oh, there are going to be a lot of other witnesses Maeve Oct 2019 #1
Trump's position is very weak. yardwork Oct 2019 #2
How in good God's name could they not have known for many months the aid was withheld? machoneman Oct 2019 #20
I think there still a lot of pressure on Ukraine California_Republic Oct 2019 #37
Entering the "How many legs does a dog have if you call his tail a leg?" phase gratuitous Oct 2019 #3
Admission aid was withheld Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #4
According to Taylor, the Ukrainians WERE aware the aid was being withheld; were beside themselves lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #25
Yeah it's stupid on so many levels Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #28
Trump Raftergirl Oct 2019 #5
Well, there goes that defense because that's a fucking lie. W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #6
+1 dalton99a Oct 2019 #8
+1 Docreed2003 Oct 2019 #9
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2019 #18
Yup! Taylor's statement leaves no doubt. Botany Oct 2019 #29
LOL, Do Nothing Dems. tanyev Oct 2019 #7
This is beyond stupid on so many bases. TruckFump Oct 2019 #10
Pickpocket to police: madaboutharry Oct 2019 #11
Maybe he is referring to McConnell? UpInArms Oct 2019 #12
The Transcript erpowers Oct 2019 #13
Is it still adultery if your wife does not yet know, Donald? keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #14
There you go. yellowcanine Oct 2019 #15
If the guy you embezzled the funds from doesn't know it is it still a crime? yellowcanine Oct 2019 #16
+1 dalton99a Oct 2019 #17
Did Trump just admit to attempted Quid Pro Quo via tweet !?!? uponit7771 Oct 2019 #19
That's rich. He just said aid was being withheld. KPN Oct 2019 #21
Fucking liar moreland01 Oct 2019 #22
That's called conspiracy to commit a crime. patphil Oct 2019 #23
But they clearly WERE AWARE, according to Taylor, and according to DONALD TRUMP's "Transcript." lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #26
It wasn't just the military aid. kentuck Oct 2019 #24
Yup, GOP SOP; robbob Oct 2019 #32
Any word salad will suffice to keep the Trumpanzees at bay Mr. Ected Oct 2019 #27
As well as Hating People of Color ritapria Oct 2019 #34
If you steal money mainstreetonce Oct 2019 #30
Listening to the Second Circuit hearing LIVE. usaf-vet Oct 2019 #31
That's what I heard as well. because trumpty dumpty is president it would need to go thru courts to iluvtennis Oct 2019 #36
He admitted it again lame54 Oct 2019 #33
trumpty dumpty is a liar. From Ambassador's Bill Taylor's statement iluvtennis Oct 2019 #35

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
1. Oh, there are going to be a lot of other witnesses
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:34 AM
Oct 2019

And you are going down, you illegitimate orangutan's butt.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
20. How in good God's name could they not have known for many months the aid was withheld?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 10:01 AM
Oct 2019

Strange defense to say the least!

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
37. I think there still a lot of pressure on Ukraine
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:32 AM
Oct 2019

I think there still a lot of pressure on Ukraine.

And they’re being threatened to shut up about this

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Entering the "How many legs does a dog have if you call his tail a leg?" phase
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:36 AM
Oct 2019

Answer: Four. Just because you call the dog's tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. According to Taylor, the Ukrainians WERE aware the aid was being withheld; were beside themselves
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 10:27 AM
Oct 2019

So, try again, President Turd!

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
28. Yeah it's stupid on so many levels
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 10:53 AM
Oct 2019

I still find it amazing that he admits in the tweet that aid was withheld. Of course the rest of the tweet is a lie.

I’m kind of gobsmacked by the admission. Even without all the evidence in the depositions we now have the president saying aid was withheld. I guess for reasons. And Mulvaney gave us the reason last week saying it was a quid pro quo to get a fake investigation on Biden.

I love the daily revelations coming from the depositions. But l half expect to see another tweet saying that “we didn’t ask for a real investigation we just wanted one to be announced”. We already know that but it will be amazing to see trump admit that next.

Self impeachment is a spectacle.

W_HAMILTON

(7,868 posts)
6. Well, there goes that defense because that's a fucking lie.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:48 AM
Oct 2019

This was taken directly from Taylor's opening statement yesterday:


The same day that I sent my cable to the Secretary, August 29, Mr. Yermak contacted me and was very concerned, asking about the withheld security assistance.


Taken from: https://time.com/5707713/bill-taylor-opening-statement-impeachment-inquiry/

Andriy Yermak is an assistant to President Zelenskyy.

tanyev

(42,566 posts)
7. LOL, Do Nothing Dems.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:49 AM
Oct 2019

Man who plays golf incessantly and tweets incessantly rages about the "nothing" the Dems are doing to him.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
10. This is beyond stupid on so many bases.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 09:05 AM
Oct 2019

This idiot is telling the other side exactly what to shoot down with on-coming witnesses.

And this "defense" is totally idiotic. Even IF (and the facts do not support this) the Ukrainians did not know and were not aware, it is still bat the very least an ATTEMPT to extort.

Holy mother of Batman!! Stooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopid.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
11. Pickpocket to police:
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 09:06 AM
Oct 2019

"I can't be charged with being a pickpocket because the person whose pocket I picked didn't know I was picking his pocket"

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
12. Maybe he is referring to McConnell?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 09:06 AM
Oct 2019
The House-passed bills that have ended up in the Senate 'graveyard'

Six months after the newly elected Democratic majority was sworn in to the House, progressive lawmakers are tackling many of their priorities through legislation.

But few of those bills are seeing traction in the GOP-led upper chamber, with many ending up in what Democrats have labeled the Senate "graveyard."

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has boasted about the pattern, promising to be a “Grim Reaper” for progressive policies in the Senate if the GOP hangs onto the chamber in the next Congress.

“We're very proud of the work that we have done to send over to the Senate, where Mitch McConnell has said he's the 'Grim Reaper' — it's a Senate graveyard,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told reporters earlier this month. “We have news for him: It's alive and well in the public, and he will be hearing from the public, hopefully very soon.”

Here’s a list of the Democratic priorities that passed the

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
13. The Transcript
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 09:10 AM
Oct 2019

Does the transcript show Donald Trump asking for a favor in exchange for giving military aid to Ukraine?

keithbvadu2

(36,827 posts)
14. Is it still adultery if your wife does not yet know, Donald?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 09:24 AM
Oct 2019

Is it still adultery if your wife does not yet know, Donald?

moreland01

(739 posts)
22. Fucking liar
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 10:20 AM
Oct 2019

If he read the opening statement he would clearly see that the Ukrainians were distressed about it and contacting the Ambassador (and Rudy too, I'm sure!!). Does he really think that nobody noticed? If they were that flush in $$ they wouldn't need ours.

patphil

(6,182 posts)
23. That's called conspiracy to commit a crime.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 10:23 AM
Oct 2019

And, a crime is still a crime even if the victim is not yet aware of the criminal action.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
24. It wasn't just the military aid.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 10:24 AM
Oct 2019

He wanted the Ukraine president make a public statement about investigating Joe Biden and the 2016 DNC server before he would even get a call from Trump or a visit to the White House. There was more than one quid pro quo.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
32. Yup, GOP SOP;
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:07 AM
Oct 2019

Set off smoke bombs and then run around saying “look! Where’s there’s smoke there’s fire, right?”.

Benghazi, whitewater, “travel-gate”, “name-your-gate”, and now Ukraine. So predictable. And, unfortunately, it seems to work. I still get into arguments with otherwise rational, left leaning relatives who are convinced Hillary is guilty of SOMETHING...


“Where’s there’s smoke there’s fire...”. It’s all they got. A smokescreen.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
27. Any word salad will suffice to keep the Trumpanzees at bay
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 10:40 AM
Oct 2019

Hatin' liberals is all they've got on their agenda.

 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
34. As well as Hating People of Color
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:14 AM
Oct 2019

That's one of their top hobbys ….Next to attending church on Sunday - on the lookout for their best friend's wife …..

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
30. If you steal money
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:06 AM
Oct 2019

are you guilty immediately or only after it is discovered that the money is missing?

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
31. Listening to the Second Circuit hearing LIVE.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:06 AM
Oct 2019

Did I just hear a judge ask one of Trump's attorneys 'What about the 5th Ave...". I assume he meant Trump's statement that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any support. I think the judge posed it as a shooting... I believe Trump's attorney said Trump would be immuned at least while in office. No district attorney could file charges until he was out of office.

Did I hear that right?

THAT CAN'T BE TRUE.

iluvtennis

(19,862 posts)
36. That's what I heard as well. because trumpty dumpty is president it would need to go thru courts to
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:20 AM
Oct 2019

even arrest him for shooting someone on 5th ave - just asinine.

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