I am listening to the court hearing on trump's taxes. Trump's lawyers are making the case that poor

[wasupaloopa]

trump will be exposed to the public.

So fucking what? He's a fucking crook. The public needs to expose him!

[Siwsan]

1. So, they are admitting he has committed tax fraud and isn't as rich as he claims??

Because if his records is clean and his wealth is as vast as he claims, they should welcome the verification.

[groundloop]

25. He's almost certainly also hiding crimes such as fraud and money laundering

Just for starters, it was reported recently that there were huge discrepancies between occupancy rates that he reported for a bank loan vs. what he reported on his taxes.

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies

[oldsoftie]

27. Thats what this is all about; he doesnt make NEARLY what he wants us to believe

And to him, being exposed as simply another rich guy & not Mr Super Rich More Than Everyone Else guy, would be the ultimate embarrassment. That, and it may show huge losses; and he wouldnt want anyone to know he's a failure!

His tax returns wont show any connection to Russia or anyone else; merely deductions for interest payments or losses. It wouldnt show WHO the interest was paid to. An audit would require that info, but not the tax returns.

[malaise]

2. I hope the Vance team remind the panel that the Con promised to release his tax returns

several years ago. He must have something to hide.

[maddiemom]

15. They're still being audited.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. Which means he's lying and IRS is not. Or he's

Telling the truth and IRS is inept.

[TheRealNorth]

26. Wasn't there a recent whistleblower in the IRS

That said his tax returns were not being audited as you would normally audit a presidents tax returns?

[RVN VET71]

29. Also, and please correct me if I'm wrong, there is nothing

about auditing that prevents the public disclosure of the returns. Nothing. Period. Unless, of course, the returns, themselves, are held as evidence in a criminal case of tax fraud.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

36. That's what the IRS said during the 2016 campaign.

The media was focused on the shiny ball that was Hilary's emails. God forbid they did any reporting on stuff with any substance, like whether one of the candidates was a tax cheat or fraud.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. Yes. Makes sense. But what about before he became pResident?

[catrose]

3. It's hard to realize why doing something presidential candidates have done for years is hard on him

[Nasruddin]

10. ... without thinking there's something rotten in it

[catrose]

35. Definitely something rotten

I hope the judge thinks so too.

[volstork]

22. Because he's a

miserable failure and doesn’t want everyone to know.

[oldsoftie]

28. THIS!!!!!!!! Its what i've thought from the start

[catrose]

34. Ditto THIS!

But I can't imagine that a judge (except a Trump judge(TM)) would think that an adequate excuse.

[GemDigger]

4. Where, how are you listening? Thanks and nt

[malaise]

5. Here - ten minute recess taking place now

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212612512

[Jersey Devil]

6. Recess? Are they going to rule now?

I do not understand the recess. Oral argument is over. Unless the court is going to rule right now then why would there be a recess? I undertand the court has taken the case on an "expedited" basis, but is there going to be an immediate ruling?

[malaise]

9. There are some other cases coming up

I think I heard them say that at the start

[GemDigger]

7. Thank you. nt

[Ilsa]

8. CSPAN carried it along with NBC website, per Rachel last night. nt

[beastie boy]

11. In the good old days it used to be called transparency.

Now it's a defense against exposing crooks.

[Claritie Pixie]

12. The forget he works for US. He is not a king nor a CEO. We demand to know!

[SayItLoud]

13. It's NOT about how rich or poor tRUMP is...it's about

Who actually OWNS, controls the tRUMP Organization. When it's revealed that it's a foreign national, or country...then we will all know why he didn't want his returns released.

His base could care less about his wealth, that he did or didn't pay taxes or that he stiffed dozens of people and companies. His liability is not losing his base, they are onboard come hell or high water.

Just sayin...

[RVN VET71]

30. On board the ship of fools

Maybe the cruise ship of fools, where the water is lead tainted, the shrimp are rotten, and the crew is there to molest the passengers, steal their wallets, and toss them overboard.

[chowder66]

14. He's a public figure. nt

[pandr32]

23. Exactly. He should not be working for us.

Well, he's not. He's working for himself and Putin. He has no business in our White House.

[usaf-vet]

16. Trump KNEW when he ran what would be expected of him. Tax returns were front and center.

So he went ahead knowing that he would NEVER release those returns. So he lied from day one and the GOP let him get away with it. And continue to get away with it.

In fact, I understand they are fighting state legislation (see CA) that would REQUIRE tax returns before anyone would be added to a state ballot.

What the hell is it states rights or federal interference? How can states protect their citizens if their attempts are foiled after the facts by federal intervention? Look at environmental issues, gun issues, abortion issues, equality issues, wage issues.

[UTUSN]

17. K&R

[keithbvadu2]

18. Trump gave his word he would release them.

Trump gave his word he would release them.

[tblue37]

21. Trump's word? HAHAHAHAHA! nt

[keithbvadu2]

24. What took you so long?

[RVN VET71]

31. Laughter, especially heavy laughter, can

make your digits shake and tremble, making it difficult to use a keyboard!

[keithbvadu2]

32. Forgiven

[aggiesal]

20. When I had a clearance, one of the first things I was told was ...

keep my finances in order.
If I bounce too many checks, have too much debt (CC, Mortgage), ...
that could make me a target and I could lose my clearance, thus my job.

The fact that the lawyers are arguing that Pendejo45's finances
could expose him to the public, means he's already been targeted
and no doubt he's been compromised.

The judge should rule immediately to release his taxes, consequences be damned.