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demmiblue

(36,864 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:24 AM Oct 2019

DEMS are debating right now whether they have Cap Police drag the HOUE GOP out of the SCIF...

DEMS are debating right now whether they have Cap Police drag the HOUE GOP out of the SCIF for shutting down the impeachment inquiry.

There is a fear that this would play right into the GOP’s hands. Maybe the resched and put Cap Police there to guard it next time


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DEMS are debating right now whether they have Cap Police drag the HOUE GOP out of the SCIF... (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2019 OP
History repeats itself. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #1
Same old shit. dalton99a Oct 2019 #6
Yep (though, this time, violating U.S. security protocols). Assholes, all of them. n/t demmiblue Oct 2019 #7
+1 dchill Oct 2019 #8
Bingo California_Republic Oct 2019 #9
My first thought UpInArms Oct 2019 #10
Thanks for the earworm! Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 #15
The same thing they did in Florida to stop the recount. True Blue American Oct 2019 #38
These were all republi-CON operatives and Congressional staffers. calimary Oct 2019 #45
Kavanaugh is in that picture somewhere. Solomon Oct 2019 #65
Sure, act like a bunch of spoiled brats in grammar school. grumpyduck Oct 2019 #2
I read they are trying to sneak in cell phones OKNancy Oct 2019 #3
That's intentional Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #19
Unfortunately for this bunch, they're a day late. calimary Oct 2019 #47
The only wrong part of that is the sneaking JHB Oct 2019 #55
No more fear. Drag them out. Guilded Lilly Oct 2019 #4
The GOP is GUILTY of obstructing justice RAB910 Oct 2019 #5
Hmmm... Liberal Jesus Freak Oct 2019 #11
Fucking WOW! Their panic perspiration must be super-funky by now Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 #12
Dirty, filthy, pukes. 58Sunliner Oct 2019 #13
MSNBC reporter just referred to this as a "stunt" StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #14
Obstruction! Unauthorized SCIF entry, with their phones! Claritie Pixie Oct 2019 #16
Intel Dem @RepMikeQuigley said it would be up to leadership to consider whether to file ethics... demmiblue Oct 2019 #17
"They have no respect for" the process . . . Iliyah Oct 2019 #27
WHERE ARE THE GUARDS? Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #18
Meanwhile SCVDem Oct 2019 #20
Love Rachel, but she promises a lot of things. bearsfootball516 Oct 2019 #32
Why is this happening when the President is about to address the nation Delmette2.0 Oct 2019 #21
Tip for the Democrats: If you don't make this stunt cost them, they'll do it again gratuitous Oct 2019 #22
they'll do it as long as it's a net gain for them Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #24
Exactly! Duppers Oct 2019 #25
Agreed. Record the events, speak to the public. MarcA Oct 2019 #60
More "tips" for the Democrats ... StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #28
But you, Starfish, YOU know what you're doing....right? coti Oct 2019 #33
I probably know more than most people here - but I also know I don't know nearly as much StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #35
you got it. stopdiggin Oct 2019 #64
Bingo Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #49
Saw-ree! gratuitous Oct 2019 #37
What "price" do you suggest the House make them pay that will make them "suddenly and spontaneously StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #39
You're the one who said saying or doing anything is pointless gratuitous Oct 2019 #42
read your post stopdiggin Oct 2019 #63
Cooper must have testimony that will implicate them all criminally. lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #23
DO IT!!!! RandySF Oct 2019 #26
Horrendous, unacceptable, the tactics of fascist thugs. RobertDevereaux Oct 2019 #29
Meanwhile on Fox News jayschool2013 Oct 2019 #30
If I had a dime for every time "there was fear that..." blah blah blah coti Oct 2019 #31
+1 Kurt V. Oct 2019 #34
Go to lunch and come back kacekwl Oct 2019 #36
Put guards at the door and let them in one by one grantcart Oct 2019 #40
Yup. kacekwl Oct 2019 #52
I'd LOVE to see them all marched with their hands cuffed behind their backs like they do... George II Oct 2019 #41
Debating? Do it! muntrv Oct 2019 #43
Doesn't the SCIF have internally operated locks on the doors? Talitha Oct 2019 #44
The Capitol police should use whatever riot control means are at their discretion Tarc Oct 2019 #46
I would be tempted to do something the repiglicants love MyNameGoesHere Oct 2019 #48
lock them all the fuck up. criminals, all NRaleighLiberal Oct 2019 #50
If we play this smart, and knowing Pelosi, Schiff et al., we will Mr. Ected Oct 2019 #51
Lock them in it? Captain Zero Oct 2019 #53
The Republican's storm a classified meeting, and the Democrats debate whether to call the cops? Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #54
Lock them inside..they want to occupy it, make them stay in there Arazi Oct 2019 #56
Rollup in a wheelchair to a hearing to protest health care policy pecosbob Oct 2019 #57
I wonder if the military could bring in a portable, secure room that would fit only Vinca Oct 2019 #58
Not having them arrested hotrod0808 Oct 2019 #59
Why didn't they shut the room down? ananda Oct 2019 #61
THUGS. Brooks Brothers Riots Redux. And how richly those original Bros were rewarded by the GOP. Hekate Oct 2019 #62

calimary

(81,304 posts)
45. These were all republi-CON operatives and Congressional staffers.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:40 PM
Oct 2019

This was a stunt in every sense of the word.

grumpyduck

(6,240 posts)
2. Sure, act like a bunch of spoiled brats in grammar school.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:29 AM
Oct 2019

That'll get you a lot of respect at election time.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. That's intentional
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:03 PM
Oct 2019

they're trying to get the testimony invalidated by breaching a couple dozen security protocols...

calimary

(81,304 posts)
47. Unfortunately for this bunch, they're a day late.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:43 PM
Oct 2019

The turning-point testimony was Ambassador Taylor’s presentation yesterday, that nearly everyone who’s commented on it describes as “damning.”

JHB

(37,160 posts)
55. The only wrong part of that is the sneaking
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:09 PM
Oct 2019

There's video of at least one who went in holding his phone high.

Others are giving updates from inside the room on Twitter. And then following up with "all updated
by staff outside the room", without saying how they're communicating with their staffer allegedly outside the room.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
12. Fucking WOW! Their panic perspiration must be super-funky by now
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:35 AM
Oct 2019

Seriously stanky... They might have to decommission that SCIF...

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
14. MSNBC reporter just referred to this as a "stunt"
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:36 AM
Oct 2019

And then went on to discuss Cooper's and Taylor's testimony.

Excellent.

A few weeks ago, they would have let this distract from their coverage of the substance and would have referred to it as some kind of "both sides" situation. Instead, he called it out for what it is.

demmiblue

(36,864 posts)
17. Intel Dem @RepMikeQuigley said it would be up to leadership to consider whether to file ethics...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:52 AM
Oct 2019
Intel Dem @RepMikeQuigley said it would be up to leadership to consider whether to file ethics complaints against R’s who “pushed their way in” to scif — says they took photos/filmed in the House’s secure classified spaces

“They have no respect for” the process.


Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
27. "They have no respect for" the process . . .
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:31 PM
Oct 2019

Isn't that the Republicans newly talking point? That Democrats are not following procedural rules for Impeachment inquiry?

If so, I think they just foot there foot in their mouths.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
20. Meanwhile
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:04 PM
Oct 2019

dump is giving another diatribe which I am not watching.

This is not what Rachel promised.

Delmette2.0

(4,166 posts)
21. Why is this happening when the President is about to address the nation
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:06 PM
Oct 2019

about Syria? Is this timing planning to minimize news coverage?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Tip for the Democrats: If you don't make this stunt cost them, they'll do it again
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:09 PM
Oct 2019

Because they did it before without consequences.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
25. Exactly!
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:23 PM
Oct 2019

This IOKIYAR crap must stop. Dems need to get in front of microphones at every opportunity.
Tell the uninformed public what's going on because the news won't.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
60. Agreed. Record the events, speak to the public.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:14 PM
Oct 2019

Maybe call a recess. If the disruptors of democracy haven't left or try
to come back in, have Cap Police remove them.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
28. More "tips" for the Democrats ...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:32 PM
Oct 2019

I'm sure they'll take it under advisement since they don't know what they're doing nearly as much as the anonymous people barking orders at them from behind their keyboards.

coti

(4,612 posts)
33. But you, Starfish, YOU know what you're doing....right?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:41 PM
Oct 2019

Driest powder on DU, and proud of it, I'm sure.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
35. I probably know more than most people here - but I also know I don't know nearly as much
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:43 PM
Oct 2019

as the people actually in the ring making the decision and doing the work.

So, unlike people who know considerably less than I do, I don't perch on my keyboard second-guessing them at every turn, offering instructions and "tips" on what their next move must be.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
37. Saw-ree!
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:53 PM
Oct 2019

But having seen naked Republican lawlessness overrun so many governmental forms over the last 50 years (from Nixon's "secret plan" to end the Vietnam war; the original -gate, Watergate; Ford's pardon of Nixon; the Reagan campaign's interference in Iran; Iran/contra cut short by Poppy's lame duck Christmas Eve pardon parade, the 2000 election fiasco where every Republican machination was reported as being on the up and up - including the Brooks Brothers riot - while Democrats' insistence on following Florida election law then in place was relentless reported as the height of suspicious activity; the gaslighting of the American people so that the Bush II administration could launch two invasions and occupations; to the relentless law-breaking of the Trump administration and now watching these bumbling nincompoops compromising a secure area, I thought a price should be paid at long last. But instead, let's hold hands, sing Kum Ba Yah, and hope that these bomb-throwing back-benchers will suddenly and spontaneously decide to behave themselves.

Or did you have something else in mind?

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
39. What "price" do you suggest the House make them pay that will make them "suddenly and spontaneously
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:00 PM
Oct 2019

decide to behave themselves"?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
42. You're the one who said saying or doing anything is pointless
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:22 PM
Oct 2019

I suggested something be done, but now that that's been labeled as "barking orders" by my betters, I've fallen in line behind them, and realize that despite the unbroken record of perfidy from Nixon to Trump, doing nothing is best and hoping that Republicans suddenly and spontaneously decide to behave themselves is truly the way our nation needs to go. Thank you for enlightening me.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
63. read your post
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:33 PM
Oct 2019

the person you responded to said no such thing. AND .. beyond a long diatribe on the perfidy of the GOP, your post offered little in the way of method, actions or response. In short .. what you would DO.

"I suggested something be done .."

Yes, you did .. while offering nothing in terms of what "something" might be. And, as clearly intended, implied (once again) that "nothing is being done!" .. and that this all stems from a unconscionable lack of willpower (or backbone) on the part of our leadership.

So now we're back (in record short time) to comments on "keeping our powder driest" and "doing nothing is best" .. impugning the motives of all offering an opposing view, and getting quite huffy when they respond in disagreement.

Your tender feelings are best protected .. when not throwing brickbats at others.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. Cooper must have testimony that will implicate them all criminally.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:12 PM
Oct 2019

Very important to get these criminals locked up ASAP.

coti

(4,612 posts)
31. If I had a dime for every time "there was fear that..." blah blah blah
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:39 PM
Oct 2019

They have to stop it with the second-guessing themselves. That's what's gotten us here.

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. I'd LOVE to see them all marched with their hands cuffed behind their backs like they do...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:18 PM
Oct 2019

...with mass arrests at demonstrations.

Then lock them ALL in that cell in the basement of the Capitol and don't let them go until all their attorneys show up.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
46. The Capitol police should use whatever riot control means are at their discretion
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:43 PM
Oct 2019

I'd pay good money to see the likes of Gaetz pissing his pants and writhing on the floor after being tased a few times.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
48. I would be tempted to do something the repiglicants love
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:49 PM
Oct 2019

Invoke Castle Law and deal with the intruders.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
51. If we play this smart, and knowing Pelosi, Schiff et al., we will
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:54 PM
Oct 2019

All these Congressional felons will eventually see the inside of a prison cell. We need to choose our battles carefully. This is just a publicity stunt. Time for a reset and then bar the door.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
54. The Republican's storm a classified meeting, and the Democrats debate whether to call the cops?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:04 PM
Oct 2019

No need for debate, Democrats. This is your House. Defend it first.

If a bully is taking your lunch, they will continue to take your lunch until you deal with them.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
56. Lock them inside..they want to occupy it, make them stay in there
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:09 PM
Oct 2019

Don't play into the media circus by trying to arrest them, let them stay in there and tantrum alone.

Lock the door tho so no bathroom breaks, food or water so they don't stay all night and prevent business tomorrow

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
57. Rollup in a wheelchair to a hearing to protest health care policy
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:11 PM
Oct 2019

and the Capitol Police will have you ziptied and booked in five minutes. WTF?

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
58. I wonder if the military could bring in a portable, secure room that would fit only
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:13 PM
Oct 2019

the committee and the witness. Put armed guards around the sucker and continue on.

hotrod0808

(323 posts)
59. Not having them arrested
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:14 PM
Oct 2019

was the most cowardly thing they did. Who cares how it looks? They put national security in peril with their unsecured phones inside the facility, on and tweeting the whole time. They are traitors, pure and simple, and they need to be treated as such. I hope they find the balls to strip security clearances and remove them from committees over this...but they won't.

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