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WaPo reporter: "the House Sargent at Arms just walked into the SCIF" (Original Post) Leghorn21 Oct 2019 OP
If this was in reverse the dems would be in jail already. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2019 #1
Time to lock up some children HAB911 Oct 2019 #2
Lock them up! Lock them up! Lock them up! Lock them up! fleur-de-lisa Oct 2019 #3
ABC News had reported a source saying that the Capitol Police BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #4
Thank God. bdamomma Oct 2019 #13
K&R. Off to the Greatest MelissaB Oct 2019 #5
WaPo reporter, she looks like she is about 15 years old in her bedroom tweeting Beringia Oct 2019 #6
... demmiblue Oct 2019 #7
How is this comment relevant? Aviation Pro Oct 2019 #8
Good keep waiting Beringia Oct 2019 #10
I s'pose if one is easily flummoxed by wolves and coyotes, yours would be a common mistake LanternWaste Oct 2019 #15
flummoxed? how am I flummoxed? Beringia Oct 2019 #45
Just curious, how did you know I was interested in coyotes and wolves? Beringia Oct 2019 #48
Guess you didn't read her tweet - she's in the Capitol. Why so rude and insulting about her? George II Oct 2019 #22
Yet it is okay Beringia Oct 2019 #46
What the fuck is this shit right here. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #26
I think this is where you apologize SlogginThroughIt Oct 2019 #43
What kind of reporter can't spell "Sergeant?" MineralMan Oct 2019 #9
Congress reporter for The Washington Post Bonx Oct 2019 #12
Exactly. Weird. MineralMan Oct 2019 #20
Sergeant, Lieutenant, and Colonel BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #24
Yeah, well, journalists are supposed to know words like those, MineralMan Oct 2019 #25
The excitement of a "scoop" in a tweet. BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #30
LOL! MineralMan Oct 2019 #33
spelling definitely de-emphasized stopdiggin Oct 2019 #35
Does it mean the same. That depends on the journalist, I suppose. MineralMan Oct 2019 #36
I read the Washinton Post fairly frequently. It's quite rare to find a spelling, MineralMan Oct 2019 #38
One who has only seen the rank in abbreviated form, and is more familiar with the version... JHB Oct 2019 #21
Perhaps. If I were her, though, I'd be very embarrassed. MineralMan Oct 2019 #23
Oh, I'm not arguing with you... JHB Oct 2019 #27
It's OK. I filled her in on the correct spelling in a comment MineralMan Oct 2019 #29
"If I were she" is the grammatically correct way to say that. Squinch Oct 2019 #37
Yes, but that conditional mood form and the use of that pronoun in it is falling out of use. MineralMan Oct 2019 #39
So it's OK when you drop "standards." Because reasons. Gotcha. Squinch Oct 2019 #40
Wow! Thanks for this. Now I know what the most important part theophilus Oct 2019 #28
It's a journalism thing. Spelling is important to journalists, MineralMan Oct 2019 #32
What kind of person makes a big deal out of it? Nt USALiberal Oct 2019 #41
My kind of person. MineralMan Oct 2019 #44
She has a coworker named Greg Sargent. I'm going with absent-minded mistake as the reason. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #47
Hey, wouldn't it be funny if they're arrested and booked and then they hire Trey Gowdy to be Leghorn21 Oct 2019 #11
It sure would. 2naSalit Oct 2019 #14
There will be consequences. 2naSalit Oct 2019 #16
Good news, Leghorn21. Thanks for the quick update. Judi Lynn Oct 2019 #17
Ha ha, "Fortunately, Ah keep mah feathers numbered fuh just such an emuhgency!" Leghorn21 Oct 2019 #42
More developments... cynatnite Oct 2019 #18
Thanks, trying to keep up Leghorn21 Oct 2019 #19
What won't they do to protect Twitler? superpatriotman Oct 2019 #31
It will get worse before it gets better. Maybe far worse. triron Oct 2019 #34

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. If this was in reverse the dems would be in jail already.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:39 PM
Oct 2019

NOT UNTIL we take DRASTIC steps to deal with TRAITORS will anything change and I dont mean violence but I do mean ARRESTS

BumRushDaShow

(129,080 posts)
4. ABC News had reported a source saying that the Capitol Police
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:42 PM
Oct 2019

had "swept the room" and one of the GOP members of the Intel Committee had started "collecting cell phones".

GOP Rep. Mike Conaway, R-Texas, a senior member of the Intelligence Committee, sensing a problem, began collecting cell phones from members, who are supposed to deposit them in a cabinet outside before entering the room, according to Connolly and others in the room.

The Republicans who forced their way into the room argued they should be able to question the witness even though they aren't members of the committees conducting the impeachment inquiry.

/snip

Capitol Police swept the hearing room where Cooper was scheduled to testify after members brought their electronic devices into the secure facility, according to sources. It was not immediately clear when proceedings would restart.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-defense-official-questioned-military-aid-ukraine-withheld/story?id=66469001

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
45. flummoxed? how am I flummoxed?
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:03 AM
Oct 2019

I like to defend wolves and coyotes from yahoos that like to kill for the pleasure of killing.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
20. Exactly. Weird.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:59 PM
Oct 2019

I guess the copy editor is supposed to catch errors like that, so the reporter doesn't have to know how to spell common words. But, see, that used to matter at newspapers. A reporter who misspelled things wasn't likely to keep a job very long. I guess we don't care about that any more.

BumRushDaShow

(129,080 posts)
24. Sergeant, Lieutenant, and Colonel
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:11 PM
Oct 2019

are tricky if you're not exposed to military or use the terms in writing that much if at all... Of course nowadays, things have spell-checkers and this was a tweet, so probably no copy editor, but...

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
25. Yeah, well, journalists are supposed to know words like those,
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:13 PM
Oct 2019

especially political reporters. Besides, my cell phone shows me the correct spelling of Sergeant if I try typing it the way she did. It also presents Sargent, because there was a famous guy with that as his first name.

A "Congressional reporter" would have encountered the term "Sergeant at Arms" before, I'm very sure. I'm just saying that journalists are supposed to be able to spell words correctly. It's part of, you know, the job.

BumRushDaShow

(129,080 posts)
30. The excitement of a "scoop" in a tweet.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:19 PM
Oct 2019


Guess we should be glad that the tweet didn't substitute single letters or numbers for words - U no what I mean?

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
35. spelling definitely de-emphasized
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:32 PM
Oct 2019

I think this actually was starting when I was in school (way back when). Now journalists? It would seem reasonable to expect better. Understand your disappointment (especially with a major outlet like WP), but I'm wondering if being a journalist means the same thing as it use to?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
36. Does it mean the same. That depends on the journalist, I suppose.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:39 PM
Oct 2019

For some, spelling is irrelevant, and spelling checkers will spot most errors. In fact, her iPhone would have shown her the correct spelling. Mine does. It's more a matter of not caring about such details. The problem is that such sloppiness leads to other kinds of sloppiness in reporting. That was always how people treated it, anyhow.

Now, at the Washington Post, she'll probably get some ribbing from other journalists there, for whom spelling does matter. Here on DU, I'm told that I'm nit picking. The trouble with not picking nits is that they grow up into adult lice and cause all sorts of problems. But, most people don't know what a nit is. So, the expression has little meaning, really, to them.

I don't like seeing standards slipping like that. It's not like Sergeant is a rare word. It's not at all, especially at places like Congress, where the Sergeant at Arms is a prominent character. Colonel and Lieutenant are also words in common usage that derive from French. Knowing their derivation helps you spell them correctly.

Spelling is one of the tools of a journalist, for whom words are the basis of their work. Not caring about the words one uses in reporting is the sign of a poor journalist. Truly.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
38. I read the Washinton Post fairly frequently. It's quite rare to find a spelling,
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:52 PM
Oct 2019

punctuation, or grammar error in its articles. They still copy edit and proofread their content. They still care about the language. Other major newspapers also do that, as do most major magazines and book publishers.

So, it's not a rare thing to expect writers to check their own work carefully. It's expected at publications that care about such things. If a writer consistently makes such errors, that writer is going to have a hard time advancing at the publication, and might find him or herself out of a job if staff is cut.

It still matters to writers and reporters who are serious about what they do.

Clearly, though, there are some for whom it does not matter. More's the pity.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
21. One who has only seen the rank in abbreviated form, and is more familiar with the version...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:59 PM
Oct 2019

...that is usually followed by "Shriver"?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
23. Perhaps. If I were her, though, I'd be very embarrassed.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:02 PM
Oct 2019

I spent much of my adult life writing for major magazines. I would never turn in a story with even one misspelling. I would have been totally embarrassed if I had done so. Part of the business of being a professional writer is being able to use the English language correctly, or used to be, at least. I'm an old geezer, though, so what do I know about such things?

Let's try a test: Sargent. My cell phone showed me the correct spelling. Hmm...

I wonder how she'd spell Colonel? "Kernel," perhaps.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
27. Oh, I'm not arguing with you...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:15 PM
Oct 2019

...being someone in a related field.

However, sometimes my mind is inclined to take rhetorical questions literally, so when you asked "what kind of reporter..." a plausible, if embarrassing, scenario popped into my head.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
29. It's OK. I filled her in on the correct spelling in a comment
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:19 PM
Oct 2019

to her tweet. Perhaps she'll get it right the next time. Of course, you can't edit tweets, so...

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
39. Yes, but that conditional mood form and the use of that pronoun in it is falling out of use.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:57 PM
Oct 2019

English changes all the time. These days, at most publications using data as a singular noun has become standard. That would have been shocking at one time, but usage has led to common acceptance of it as a singular noun. Now, some publications do not accept that, but they are becoming fewer and fewer.

Every major publication has a style sheet that details the usages accepted by that publication. If you work for multiple publications, as I used to, you have to learn the style sheet or suffer the wrath of copy editors.

The language is changing, but "sergeant" is still spelled that way universally.

theophilus

(3,750 posts)
28. Wow! Thanks for this. Now I know what the most important part
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:19 PM
Oct 2019

of this story is. I wasn't paying close enough attention. I was a little excited and distracted. Focus is back on. Thanks

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
32. It's a journalism thing. Spelling is important to journalists,
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:20 PM
Oct 2019

or should be, anyhow. She is a journalist, apparently. I let her know about the misspelling in a comment to her tweet.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,484 posts)
47. She has a coworker named Greg Sargent. I'm going with absent-minded mistake as the reason.
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 01:04 PM
Oct 2019

It might seem odd that spellcheck didn't flag it/change it to "sergeant," but it is probably the case that spellcheck had learned to accept "sargent" as the correct spelling, due to its frequent use.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
11. Hey, wouldn't it be funny if they're arrested and booked and then they hire Trey Gowdy to be
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:49 PM
Oct 2019

their lawyer - you know, the guy who held PRIVATE HEARINGS in the SCIF for his Benghazi investigations???

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
17. Good news, Leghorn21. Thanks for the quick update.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:57 PM
Oct 2019

On edit:

Never have told you your screen names always reminds me of former Mississippi Senate Majority Leader, Trent Lott, who sounds just like the cartoon Foghorn Leghorn, shown here on Senate Seersucker Suit Day:





Son W. shown reality checking his father's seersucker suit.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
42. Ha ha, "Fortunately, Ah keep mah feathers numbered fuh just such an emuhgency!"
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 04:30 PM
Oct 2019

My favorite Foghorn line!

(my handle comes from - what else?! - my late, great black/white kitty cat, whom I called many names, including this one!)

superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)
31. What won't they do to protect Twitler?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:19 PM
Oct 2019

Sure, it’s polite and PR-based now, but what happens when the REAL impeaching starts?

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