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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe Have Now Arrived At The Logical Endpoint Of Trump's Immunity Argument
Wow... Trumps lawyers told judges that YES Trump really could shoot someone and not be prosecuted!(TalkingPointsMemo) NEW YORK I wasnt expecting laughter in court today. But at the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan, there were stifled chortles as personal attorneys for President Trump finally arrived at the logical destination of their argument that he is immune not only from prosecution but from investigation. It came in Trumps appeal challenging a state grand jury subpoena for financial records from his longtime accounting firm, Mazars USA.
Manhattan District Attorney General Counsel Carrey Dunne told the appeals court that Trump was acting as if the law did not apply to him, and was trying to have it both ways by asserting executive protections over an investigation that concerned his private business. Trump attorney William Consovoy had argued that not only does the Constitution prevent a sitting president from indictment, but it also prevents criminal investigation or process from being applied to the head of state.
Dunne brought up Trumps famous statement when he caught fire during the 2016 Republican primary, saying, I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldnt lose any voters.
If he did pull out a handgun and shoot someone on Fifth Ave, Dunne asked, would the local police be restrained?
Would we have to wait for impeachment? he added.
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Judge Chin raised Dunnes point. He asked Consovoy for his view on the Fifth Avenue example.
Local authorities couldnt investigate, they couldnt do anything about it? he asked.
No, replied a visibly annoyed Consovoy amid stifled chortles.
Nothing could be done? Thats your position? Chin repeated.
That is correct, that is correct.
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We Have Now Arrived At The Logical Endpoint Of Trump's Immunity Argument (Original Post)
FM123
Oct 2019
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struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)1. "The judge is biased against me and makes me sound like a half-wit!"
Volaris
(10,272 posts)3. You CHOSE to be trumps lawyer. You were a halfwit to BEGIN WITH lol.
3Hotdogs
(12,391 posts)2. Nixon: "Well, when the president does it, that means it is not illegal."
So there you have it. Settled law.
global1
(25,253 posts)4. Let's Test This Out.....
Give Trump a handgun and send him to NYC 5th Ave. Let's see what develops!!!!!
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)5. Oh for God's sake. Who among us hasn't raised this very point to refute this lame defense?
Anyone asserting that the President is legitimately above the law gets their directions from Mother Russia.
Excuse me, this is the fucking United States of America. Who the fuck are you people? How do you sleep at night?
Goodheart
(5,327 posts)6. I would have followed up with another question...
"Can he even be ARRESTED?"
"For example, if he were walking down Fifth Avenue with an AK-47, gunning down scores of people, can he even be stopped?"
If he can't be indicted what would be the basis for stopping him?