Sun Oct 27, 2019, 12:02 PM

JHB (36,307 posts)

And now his pals the Russians are undercutting him

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Steve Rosenberg @BBCSteveR
Moscow unconvinced by US claims that al-Baghdadi has been killed. Russian defence ministry refers to “valid doubts about the reality & success (of the operation), says “no air strikes by US or coalition forces registered in Idlib de-escalation zone on Saturday or recent days.”
11:01 AM · Oct 27, 2019

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Steve Rosenberg @BBCSteveR
Russian defence ministry: “We are not aware of any assistance having being given to US Air Force flights into the air space of the Idlib de-escalation zone in this operation...”
11:06 AM · Oct 27, 2019

Worth repeating from last week...

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12 replies	Author	Time	Post
And now his pals the Russians are undercutting him (Original post)	JHB	Oct 2019	OP
Theater	jberryhill	Oct 2019	#1
Oh yeah well PFC Jessica Lynch can confirm it	underpants	Oct 2019	#2
So he lied about watching it as he was playing golf	Jarqui	Oct 2019	#3
He left the golf club as it was getting started	JHB	Oct 2019	#5
It was dark - raid starting about 4 hours after sunset in Syria	Jarqui	Oct 2019	#8
Why would Turkey publicize that it,	gab13by13	Oct 2019	#4
Trump is a lying show-man.	Baitball Blogger	Oct 2019	#7
+1	crickets	Oct 2019	#11
I have no opinion, but a lot of people are wondering at	Hortensis	Oct 2019	#6
Well, he is their puppet, so why not?	MoonRiver	Oct 2019	#9
All TV.....	dawnie51	Oct 2019	#10
K&R	UTUSN	Oct 2019	#12

Response to JHB (Original post)

Sun Oct 27, 2019, 12:03 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

1. Theater

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Response to JHB (Original post)

Sun Oct 27, 2019, 12:05 PM

underpants (175,489 posts)

2. Oh yeah well PFC Jessica Lynch can confirm it

I’m sorry to use her name as a joke (she WAS horribly harmed) but my first reaction to this news was “Who?” - I wasn’t aware of Al Baghdadi- and since then this whole thing keeps going towards the PFC Lynch story territory.

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Sun Oct 27, 2019, 12:07 PM

Jarqui (9,248 posts)

3. So he lied about watching it as he was playing golf

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212627589

We have this:
June 16, 2017 Russia claims it killed ISIS leader al-Baghdadi
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212627601

He lied about the DNA testing

And we have the above.

Reminds me of "the Boy Who Cried Wolf". Why should we believe Trump after all his lying?

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Sun Oct 27, 2019, 12:13 PM

JHB (36,307 posts)

5. He left the golf club as it was getting started

Raid began at 3:30, motorcade departing the golf club started rolling at 3:33.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12627598

So he might have gotten there some time into it, but having spent the previous 5 hours golfing, he wasn't exactly in the loop for preparations nor operations.

And if he did watch any of it, what do you want to be his main concern was crappy video quality compared to what he's used to?

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Response to JHB (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 27, 2019, 12:22 PM

Jarqui (9,248 posts)

8. It was dark - raid starting about 4 hours after sunset in Syria

So the video would be limited.

It apparently was authorized a week ago so they were not sitting around waiting for it.

Still doesn't clear up the Russian contradictions (they'd already killed him, they did not provide help, nothing seen in their airspace, etc), not advising Pelosi/Schiff, the DNA claim, etc

His penchant for lying may come back to bite him here.

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Sun Oct 27, 2019, 12:13 PM

gab13by13 (15,724 posts)

4. Why would Turkey publicize that it,

gave up Baghdadi's location? Turkey allowed ISIS to cross back and forth across its border. Why would Turkey be pizzing off ISIS and opening its country up to terrorism?

Just asking.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 27, 2019, 12:20 PM

Baitball Blogger (45,267 posts)

7. Trump is a lying show-man.

He has already put words in people's mouths, claiming they said supporting statements for his actions while they have no recollection of any such conversation.

I think Trump is walking in deep, deep water by using this strategy on men who control military might.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 27, 2019, 05:17 PM

crickets (24,737 posts)