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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:03 AM Oct 2019

Now that Pelosi has agreed to hold a formal impeachment-inquiry vote, Republicans no longer want it.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-says-house-will-vote-this-week-on-resolution-formalizing-impeachment-procedures

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Monday the House will vote this week on a resolution to formalize -- and establish the parameters -- of the Trump impeachment inquiry.

In a letter sent to Democratic House lawmakers, Pelosi, D-Calif., said the resolution "affirms the ongoing, existing investigation" and "establishes the procedure" for future investigative steps.

...

Republicans hit back Monday at Pelosi over the planned vote, with South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham -- the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which would play a role in a Senate impeachment trial -- saying, “A vote now is a bit like un-ringing a bell as House Democrats have selectively leaked information in order to damage President Trump for weeks."

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., told Fox News: "What it authorizes is that we were right. You can’t go back now."

The White House argued Monday that the move proves Democrats have been conducting an "unauthorized" inquiry.

“We won’t be able to comment fully until we see the actual text, but Speaker Pelosi is finally admitting what the rest of America already knew – that Democrats were conducting an unauthorized impeachment proceeding, refusing to give the President due process, and their secret, shady, closed-door depositions are completely and irreversibly illegitimate,” White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said in a statement.

...

“She wants to nullify their process argument,” a senior Democratic source told Fox News. “That’s all they talk about. Republicans won’t touch the substance. So this is her way of forcing their hand.”
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Now that Pelosi has agreed to hold a formal impeachment-inquiry vote, Republicans no longer want it. (Original Post) DetlefK Oct 2019 OP
They can fuck right off. The courts already ruled a vote was not needed. Celerity Oct 2019 #1
Republicans don't want ANYTHING that's coming their way. dchill Oct 2019 #2
Repugs are either in hiding for frailing about uttering nonsence!! riversedge Oct 2019 #3
Surprise, surprise... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #4
Too bad, so sad, your dad! True Blue American Oct 2019 #5
McCarthey "This proves we were right" Cosmocat Oct 2019 #6
Democrats have been following REPUBLICAN RULES Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #7
Now Kevin sounds Stupid. djacq Oct 2019 #8
How RECENTLY have they switched? i.e. Has McCarthy demanded a vote in last couple of days? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #9
They are chickens. kentuck Oct 2019 #10
repuglikans: "What is this 'read' you speak of?" lastlib Oct 2019 #17
very predictable. with the unchallenged repetition from 1500 radio stations and certainot Oct 2019 #11
Republicans begged for an impeachment vote against Trump whopis01 Oct 2019 #12
Republicans are accessories to crimes. Lonestarblue Oct 2019 #13
Wasn't it just a few days ago that McCarthy was bellowing for a formal vote ? kentuck Oct 2019 #14
Because they know a shrewd politician like Nancy Horse with no Name Oct 2019 #15
"Dear" RePuglikans: Please proceed with self-fornication. lastlib Oct 2019 #16
this is the lead up to the "public" committee hearings prior to the actual beachbumbob Oct 2019 #18
There are vulnerable Rs that will have to take a vote now DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #19
Both Smucker and Fitzpatrick were reported to have taken money from the Ghouliani associates' PAC BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #22
Imagine that....nt 2naSalit Oct 2019 #20
Always moving the goalposts NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #21
They wanted it before there was anything concrete, investigation, etc. Xolodno Oct 2019 #23
This is unnecessary IMHO Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2019 #24

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,052 posts)
7. Democrats have been following REPUBLICAN RULES
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:46 AM
Oct 2019

Police investigations are not public, of course. And we are in a Grand Jury phase.

"Speaker Pelosi is finally admitting what the rest of America already knew – that Democrats were conducting an unauthorized impeachment proceeding,

The Constitution authorizes the House to set the Rules.

Democrats have been following REPUBLICAN RULES.

refusing to give the President due process,


That's public hearings coming and Senate trial.

and their secret, shady, closed-door depositions


Not closed to Republicons. "Shady" is of course pure propaganda, an emotional word with no basis in fact here.

Investigations are closed door. Grand Jury presentations are not public.

are completely and irreversibly illegitimate,”


Repeating nonsense does not make it more true, but it it does stroke the emotions and repetition is the fundamental tool of fascist propaganda.

This "press secretary" is even smokier and shadier than Harrah Suckabee-Sanders. How's that for a bit of a taste of her own?

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
10. They are chickens.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:55 AM
Oct 2019

They are afraid to take a vote. They mustn't have read a paper in a week? Otherwise, they would have read about the court ruling just a few days ago?

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. very predictable. with the unchallenged repetition from 1500 radio stations and
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 07:53 AM
Oct 2019

the master of rationalization lumbaugh leading the way they can always have it both ways with their base

that's why dems need to poll for talk radio and isolate the part of the base that are dittoheads who believe anything from lumbaugh and sons from the secondary recipients of that massive national buzz who just believe it because they're either too apathetic or too busy or isolated from alternatives and the true believer minority is louder around them - at the bar, store, dinner table etc'

dems have huge upside to gain from isolating the very minor 5-10% true base from the 30% secondary base

dems need to invoke lumbaugh regularly whenever faced with the lies and denial because most republicans know that's where it starts, even if dems have no clue, and they need help breaking away

whopis01

(3,527 posts)
12. Republicans begged for an impeachment vote against Trump
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:02 AM
Oct 2019

That needs to be the message that is pushed.

The Republicans asked for an impeachment vote. They demanded it.

Lonestarblue

(10,109 posts)
13. Republicans are accessories to crimes.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:04 AM
Oct 2019

Every lawyer knows that the person driving the car for a bank robber is also guilty and is an accessory to the crime. Republicans have been driving Trump’s getaway car for the past two years. They know they are enabling crimes against this country. When the details of Trump’s crimes come out, as they will, how much longer can they hide outside in the getaway car while Trump is inside robbing the country and bribing foreign leaders to benefit himself personally. The Ukraine quid pro quo is nothing less than a deal to bribe a foreign leader to manufacture dirt on the Bidens, in return for which Trump would release US aid. We need to start calling his actions what they are. Bribery is specifically mentioned in the Constitution as an impeachable offense.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
14. Wasn't it just a few days ago that McCarthy was bellowing for a formal vote ?
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:05 AM
Oct 2019

The Court has already ruled that it is an authorized and legitimate impeachment investigation.

They can't seem to make up their minds?

lastlib

(23,331 posts)
16. "Dear" RePuglikans: Please proceed with self-fornication.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:28 AM
Oct 2019

With a pitchfork. (Preferably an old rusty, manure-encrusted, tetanus-infected pitchfork. Sideways.)

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
18. this is the lead up to the "public" committee hearings prior to the actual
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:30 AM
Oct 2019

development of the articles of impeachment committee/hearing. With smart tactics, Schiff can have a dozen trump officials on camera all pleading the 5th amendment. No better optics to establish guilt in the eyes of the american people.


This is what terrifies the GOP, as they know trump's people will plead the 5th

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
19. There are vulnerable Rs that will have to take a vote now
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:37 AM
Oct 2019

In Pennsylvania, I can think of 3 who had very close elections in 2018, Brian Fitzpatrick, Mike Kelly and Scott Perry. Even Smucker could be vulnerable. The 2020 campaign ads practically write themselves.

BumRushDaShow

(129,683 posts)
22. Both Smucker and Fitzpatrick were reported to have taken money from the Ghouliani associates' PAC
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 09:43 AM
Oct 2019

They supposedly gave it back or donated it but that alone should be an ad!

Xolodno

(6,406 posts)
23. They wanted it before there was anything concrete, investigation, etc.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 11:10 AM
Oct 2019

That way they could target Dem's in purple districts.

Now that shit has hit the fan and the investigations are showing not just a smoking gun but dead bodies with matching ballistics...they don't want a vote that could now help Dem's in purple districts. Particularly now that shit is about to go public.

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