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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Nunes and his aide out the whistleblower, there's just one thing to do.
The whistleblower should step forward and blow the whistle loudly and publicly on Trump.
Once the name is known, there's no point in hiding any longer. Go public, whistleblower! Lay it all out in the media. Tell your story to the television press person of your choice, on camera, and leave nothing out.
dchill
(38,569 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Sorie- having my lat mourning confeve after a lat nigt....
spooky3
(34,505 posts)when to close the barn door.
And isnt it a crime to out a protected whistleblower?
MineralMan
(146,339 posts)If he thinks revealing the whistleblower's name in public will cause that person to go into hiding, he's wrong. Instead, it will serve only to blow the GOP's case to smithereens.
So, please proceed, Representative Nunes. Go right ahead. You are an idiot, so let's see some idiocy in action!
Firestorm49
(4,037 posts)Couldnt agree more.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,131 posts)I still shake my head that we have accepted the LIE that he killed himself.
FFS
Stay safe whistle-blowers, you are fucking with murderers...all GOP are now murderers or accomplices to murder.
MineralMan
(146,339 posts)That's why it will be important for the whistleblower to get his story out as quickly as possible if he is doxxed.
Once it is public, the threat level will be somewhat reduced. He will need some protection, of course, but the story is the thing that needs to be shared. Once shared, it cannot be put back into a box.
Nunes is a moron. He simply doesn't understand how any of this works.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,131 posts)These traitors are hard to keep up with.
dchill
(38,569 posts)He already proved that breaking the law is no problem for him.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)MineralMan
(146,339 posts)Then, he should be expelled from the House of Representatives by unanimous acclamation. That's my opinion.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)I am confident one day he will. There was a leak account that was amazing, that laid out his history. I can't believe he is suing a fake cow on Twitter, but never even touched that account.
MineralMan
(146,339 posts)along with his buddy, Duncan Hunter.
bluestarone
(17,091 posts)FIRE his aid immediately!
MineralMan
(146,339 posts)by a unanimous acclamation vote. It is his idea, the smarmy little asshole.
bluestarone
(17,091 posts)jcgoldie
(11,656 posts)After multiple people from different departments in the Trump administration with direct knowledge of the situation have been deposed, does it even matter who the whistleblower is? It seems like we are well past that at this point.
MineralMan
(146,339 posts)MineralMan
(146,339 posts)The whistleblower's identity DOESN'T matter at this point. His/her report led to others testifying about the incident and what surrounds it. So, his or her testimony is no longer needed. Nunes, in his stupidity, does not understand that, and thinks that naming the person will somehow lead to bad consequences for that person.
Nunes is simply acting maliciously and with contempt for truth. His action, through his aide, is transparent and should bring him to complete shame from everyone of any honor at all.
What he is doing is so incredibly stupid that it's almost unbelievable.
Whiskeytide
(4,463 posts)... in this instance he really just wants the name out there so the attack machine can go on the offensive and undermine the impeachment at its origin - much like they did and are doing with the Steele Dossier and more recently the entire Russia investigation itself.
We have trouble following the logic because our critical thinking skills hinder us in such an endeavor. But it's republican scandal control 101 to them.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Since the relevant committees have the witnesses to the Ukraine call and its context, the whistleblower is of absolutely no consequence at all.
It's like someone calling 911 to report a burglary, and the cops showing up to find the burglar attempting to escape the building. The 911 call has nothing to do with anything at that point.
Whiskeytide
(4,463 posts)... actually the real burglar all along, and is trying to frame your arrested neighbor for the heist. (This is where you'll need your tin foil hat)
They just want the name out in the public to allow Fox-n-em to assassinate his/her character and undermine the impeachment.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to make as sure as possible that it succeeds and to protect him or herself.
Behavior suggests abandoning that track to run off to the press is not something that person believes is the only thing to be done.
MineralMan
(146,339 posts)doxxes you, all of that procedure goes out the window, it seems to me. Such a nefarious act by a member of Congress subverts the entire process, which is designed to protect the whistleblower from retaliatory actions. Nunes appears to be inviting harm to be done to the whistleblower.
Once the identity is known, public disclosure by the whistleblower is one way to add a certain level of protective cover. Since no benefit will come from trying to silence the person, there is little anyone can do to harm his or her reputation. Public disclosure of the full story is the best protection in such a circumstance.
That's not to say that the whistleblower will not need physical protection, since some of Trump's supporters have the potential to take violent action against that person. So, yes, he or she will need protection for a time. That can be arranged.
Still, outing the person is a shameful, malicious act. Nunes should be expelled from the House if he countenances or aids that disclosure.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)would seem to me to be one of the highly expected actions. Only a matter of time.
This person knows the Republicans' first action will be to try to smash his or her credibility through massive, ongoing swiftboat attacks as a political tactic.
The second standard reaction will be to try to destroy the whistleblower's life, both out of the extreme punitive viciousness typical of them and as a warning to others.
But the job this person set out to do isn't completed. This would change nothing as far as that's concerned, and the high ground held by approving colleagues, the Democrats and the judiciary is definitely still the safest, and almost certainly only, place to finish it.
SWBTATTReg
(22,183 posts)a veteran no less. As you so well put it...
Still, outing the person is a shameful, malicious act. Nunes should be expelled from the House if he countenances or aids that disclosure.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)His story has been backed up and at this point the identity of the whistleblower is almost an afterthought. He/She's probably safer coming forward and has the implicit support of everyone who has thus far testified.
I would do it subtly, though.
Still, I wonder at the legality of outing a whistleblower. I've read several threads on this subject and only saw one or two people ask if it was legal to out a whistleblower.
MineralMan
(146,339 posts)I am sure, though, that the House of Representatives has the power to expel a member of that body. That should be done forthwith, if Nunes took action to reveal the name of the whistleblower. Nancy Pelosi can bring such a resolution to the floor and call for a vote. She should do so, and put House members on the record with their votes.
Cyrano
(15,073 posts)bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)It was written to provide protections within the Executive Branch and the Legislative Branch seldom includes themselves in such laws.
You are correct that the House writes it's own rules and if there isn't anything specific outlawing the practice, they could move to toss him based on his overwhelming assholery.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)She is just one example of how far GOP politicians will go.
They have no boundaries, and no integrity.
Phoenix61
(17,021 posts)the current situation. I think this is Nunes pathetic attempt to threaten anyone who may be thinking about blowing a whistle. Whatever hes trying to keep from coming out must be really, really bad.