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gulliver

(13,186 posts)
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 09:02 PM Nov 2019

I wish we would use "United States" more instead of "America" or "our country."

I like the word "united" in our real name, and I think it is critically important. It runs counter to the intentions of Trump and his fallen Republican Party.

We Dems often say Trump seeks to divide "our country," and to invite foreigners to corrupt "our country's" elections. But that is, if put another way, seeking to divide "the United States," and is inviting foreigners to interfere with "United States elections." Sounds better that way. Reminds us we are meant to be united. But it also brings to mind that Trump and his Republicans are harming something every United States citizen rightfully feels they claim as their own, the country known as the United States. I've heard our side use "United States," of course, but maybe not often enough.

Trump uses the words "our country" all the time. But it's obvious that he's not saying the word "our" with every United States Citizen in mind. Nor are a lot of his—in my opinion—fan/servant wannabes hearing it that way. He is saying (and they are hearing) Trump talk about their country, not our country. Trump (twisted, spoiled, jerk that he is) is using the words "our country," words that might normally call Americans to feel more united, in a sneaky and underhanded way to divide.

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erronis

(15,303 posts)
2. I've argued this before. The U.S. is just one country within the continents of America
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 09:30 PM
Nov 2019

When someone like the current peeResident besmirches the country that (didn't) elect him, I'm sorry that all the other countries in the American continents have to be painted with his foul brush.

And more to your point - dump is totally amoral and couldn't care less about the country he lives in. He is only about himself. Period. We'll never get him or is (R)epublicon enablers to magically become ethical and thinking. They are who they are. They are the deplorables. Tough.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,355 posts)
7. you're the first line of defense against the Canuckian hordes invasion!
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 09:48 PM
Nov 2019

Or did they already do that? I've seen a lot of lumber and OSB stamped, "Canada". They're sly with all those manners and stuff.

10. The use of "United States" might carry the connotation that everybody deserves to be here.
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 10:36 PM
Nov 2019

Nope - Instead it's "OUR country," just like how (to them) he's "MY President."

As for "our country," they own it and you and I don't. They just wanted to let you know.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. I agree. I noticed that Nancy Pelosi
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:29 AM
Nov 2019

often uses that. "I pray for the United States." "I pray for the President of the United States."

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
15. Thanks - I knew it was one of the countries who has been a bad actor in the past
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:37 AM
Nov 2019

I am very ignorant on history between 1900 and 1960.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
16. Having said that, I agree that "Homeland" is a little creepy...
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:39 AM
Nov 2019

I guess I'm getting used to it, but still.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
14. What I hate is Homeland.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:36 AM
Nov 2019

That was not.part of common language while I was growing up. Suddenly in 2001 the Bushies started spreading the term as part of the vast 9/11 psyops which led us to war in Iraq. Too much like Fatherland, if you ask me.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
17. Neither is correct. "America" is a generic term, which encompasses
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 01:23 PM
Nov 2019

both North America, Central America, and South America, which are made up of many nations. United States is not a complete name either. Mexico is Los Estados Unidos Mexicanos, which translates in English to "The United Mexican States." Our country is The United States of America. Only that name is correct.

If you want to refer only to our nation, call it The United States of America. No other name is complete or correct.

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