Let's pour a LITTLE bit of water on tonight's KY results...

[brooklynite]

Beshear's win says very little about McConnell's vulnerability next year, and Republicans took all the other Statewide races. Before I invest a penny on Amy McGrath's campaign, I'll need to see a solid path to victory. With what we'll have to put into AZ, CO, ME, GA and NC, McConnell is precisely the sort of race where we need to ignore the emotional satisfaction of potentially beating him, and focus on what's realistic.

[BeyondGeography]

1. Let's pour a little bourbon on them

C’mon, Francis.

[Happyhippychick]

2. Okay

[msongs]

3. a personality contest the dem barely won, and bevin's going to recount nt

[NoMoreRepugs]

4. A 30 point swing is a 30 point swing.

With so much more coming out concerning the most corrupt administration in HISTORY anything is possible.

[mcar]

5. Just celebrate the win, for god's sake

[obnoxiousdrunk]

23. We can't do that ..

Got to be sore losers like we always are.

[caraher]

62. sore winners?

[StarfishSaver]

6. No, let's not.

[jberryhill]

10. But it's not your pennies we are investing

I’ll bet if you were expecting an ROI from what most people call “donations”, you’d feel differently.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

13. hush. you're a red cow. a laughing red cow. leave the pennies alone and chew your cud.

[jberryhill]

30. Moo

[StarfishSaver]

22. Silly me, being all "Ask not what I can do for my country" and everything

I'll work on that.

[jberryhill]

33. I'll let you off with a warning this time.

[StarfishSaver]

43. Thank you, officer.

[CatWoman]

50. ok

you guys are cracking me up

[XRubicon]

25. Wow, you are important

On the internet...

[jberryhill]

26. Not as important as some, to be sure

[XRubicon]

28. What should we do?

[jberryhill]

31. I dunno, are there classes in detecting sarcasm?

[dweller]

36. they offered one at Trump U.

i think it was called "Ethics 101 and You"


✌🏼

[jberryhill]

38. Sincerity is everything

Once you can fake that, you got it made.

[cwydro]

57. Lol.

Oh, well done!

[Me.]

7. Why

God, can't the Dems have a moment?

[CincyDem]

8. I disagree...respectfully.

I think this gives Mitch a lot to think about. Bevin wrapped himself up in Trump like no other candidate since Trump's election. What this election says is that Trump's coat tails in KY ain't what he (or Mitch) thinks.

As to the down tickets races - the unfortunate reality is that every one of them was underfunded and virtually invisible in media. Our market (cincinnati) was inundated with ads because we have the Northern KY counties. Beshear was 1:1 with Bevin on ads. The down ticket races, Republicans were 3:1, 4:1 present.

So for me - I'm not going to wait for Amy McGrath to have to prove herself. Beshear's focus on what matters to people (vs. fighting the national left/right debate) is the solid path. Good enough for me.

[blm]

12. ✔️

[not_the_one]

47. I think, "cognizant of the events now transpiring"

Moscow Mitch may not run.

He is 77. He is now very rich. Does he really want to put up with all the shit that is coming?

The writing on the wall is slowly coming into focus.

Just puttin' that out there.

[John Fante]

9. Your concern is noted.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

11. I don't like water in my whiskey

Beshear's win is GIGANTIC to people drowning in the red zones. It's also gigantic to all the areas of Kentucky where the local school is the largest employer.

[TheRealNorth]

14. My understanding is that McConnell, like Bevin, is not popular either

It bares watching and if it is looking close, it might make sense to put some money there, if for nothing else to hopefully force Republicans to spend money to protect McConnell.

[Finishline42]

21. Ah come on, what's not to like about #MoscowMitch?

It will take a hell of an effort but I've got my fingers crossed that Lt Col (Retired) Amy McGrath will get the job done.

[SixString]

15. Why should we care...

...which campaign your spouse pours her disposable cash into?

[brooklynite]

53. I care...because I believe in maximizing the success rate of Democratic candidates.

You won't max out to every Senate candidate. Therefore you'll make choices. My point is not to make them on the basis of emotion.

[XRubicon]

16. LOL

[KentuckyWoman]

17. I am with you as far as Kentucky.

Mitch is booed all over the state but come election the count goes his way. GOP runs elections in most of the state....

This said, you are wrong ....A good, well funded campaign could beat him.

[roamer65]

18. Let's let KY stew on another year of Dump.

[rufus dog]

19. Must be a tough night

Go ahead, go to bed early, wake up tomorrow and you may still feel like shit!

As I wrote Sunday night, sometimes it is important just to sit back and listen

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12650342

Others may just say STFU! Not me, I say just sit back and listen.

[TheBlackAdder]

20. The emotional satisfaction of beating McConnell plays a factor in whether he is realistically beaten

[KY_EnviroGuy]

24. Hard to create a solid path to victory without campaign funding.

KY.........

[Music Man]

27. Thank you for posting this!

Kentucky teacher here. Yes, we want to celebrate, but your post is a fair one, and it's my feeling tonight too.

The best part of this is that Trump specifically came into Kentucky to campaign for Bevin, and he lost. It's like poking Trump in the eye.

But EVERY other down-ballot Democrat lost, including a popular Secretary of State candidate. Democrats haven't lost the Attorney General race in 70 years. Granted, we nominated a retread, uninspiring candidate in the AG race, but it's an unfortunate loss.

I think this race shows that Kentucky is basically a Republican state that thought its governor was an SOB. Andy Beshear was a good candidate and ran a good race. These results *might* be evidence of some Trump fatigue, but I think the issues are more localized in this particular race.

Democrats would be wise to not see this as a bellwether. Obama contributed much of his success to not getting too low or too high at any given time. Democrats should be on a high tonight, but not *too* high.

All that said, hell yeah, my fellow Kentuckians! Bye bye, Bevin!

[dustyscamp]

34. Good insight here

[LAS14]

29. Here's hoping the Beshear win will energize Dems.... Maybe they'll get...

.. the idea that a Dem CAN WIN in KY!!!!!

Maybe that 3:1, 4:1 ad count down ballot mentioned up the thread will turn to 2:2 or even 3:1!!!!

[awesomerwb1]

32. Well, without your money

there is no way she can win so let's not even try. However do tell us if you change your mind and decide to donate so we can get our hopes up again.

[brooklynite]

35. I'm not saying there isn't money that will flow to McGrath...

...but if you don't have unlimited funds (I don't) ask yourself: which Senate race did you NOT support by giving money to McGrath? And how much research did you do on their respective prospects?

[standingtall]

37. Amy McGrath will not be the only candidate to take on McConnell now

Yes other republicans won statewide probably, because Bevin was so unpopular. Guess what though? So is Mitch McConnell. Bevin lost Jefferson County by almost 100,000 votes. The last time McConnell lost Jefferson County by that margin he almost too and in a Presidential election there is potential to come away with a 125,000 vote margin or higher for the Democrat.

[Initech]

39. There's no such thing as a sure thing in this toxic political climate that we live in.

This was most definitely a great step in the right direction. But come tomorrow? Who knows? The victory was sweet and should be celebrated with revels. But who can say what's going to happen in the next election?

[lunatica]

40. That's saying that winning makes us losers

because we dare to win gladly. Like we’re all going to totally forget the fight isn’t over. Jeez!

[sheshe2]

41. Well.

Before I invest a penny on Amy McGrath's campaign, I'll need to see a solid path to victory.

[jberryhill]

58. You know what they say....

Mind the pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves.

[ecstatic]

42. He's got to go. How do we make him as hated as Bevin?

There has to be a way to get into the trumper/ traitor mitch psyche, attack from the right, and defeat him.

[redstateblues]

44. Given McConnel's weakness, I think McGrath is a better bet than Osoff

Both are difficult but Amy is a great candidate. I’m sending her $.

[brooklynite]

56. Ossoff is running in GA is one of multiple Primary candidates

[redstateblues]

61. I thought Osoff ran a weak campaign against Handle

Not sure he can win a statewide election when he couldn’t win a suburban race

[brooklynite]

63. He's not my first choice, nor that of my friends in the funding community...

I've met with Teresa Tomlinson, but have been clear that I won't play favorites in the Primary.

[sinkingfeeling]

45. To each his own. I'll continue to donate to Amy.

[SlogginThroughIt]

46. For fucks sake why?

Really this is what we are going to do tonight? I don’t mean to be a jerk but come on man. This is balogna.

[Demsrule86]

48. Getting Bevin out is excellent...no matter what...and Virginia turned blue tonight...good night.

[EffieBlack]

49. Boo?

Is that you?

[panader0]

51. "Before I invest..." Wait, you invested in Hinkenlooper right?

Did you see a solid path to victory with him?

[dalton99a]

52. Well, there was a lunch

A very very good lunch

[brooklynite]

55. Well, dinner actually.

Me, my wife, two friends and John.

[jberryhill]

59. ...and a dog named "Blue"

[brooklynite]

60. Dogs aren't allowed in restaurants in NYC...

[jberryhill]

64. That's not what I've heard

[brooklynite]

65. "Off the menu" item...

[brooklynite]

54. No, but I saw something else...

I saw value in presenting to the electorate a candidate message that wasn't a traditional east-coast/west-coast liberal one.

[kentuck]

66. It depends on the turnout.

and who the candidate for president might be?