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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:36 AM Nov 2019

Rep Speier: Sondland is going to have to "pay" for his lack of candor and is on "thin ice."



Manu Raju ✔ @mkraju

Dems believe Sondland may have misled Congress in his closed deposition about his conversations with Trump. David Cicilline told me: “I think he misled the committee.”

Rep. Jackie Speier said Sondland is going to have to “pay” for his lack of candor and is on “thin ice.”


9:33 AM - Nov 14, 2019


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Rep Speier: Sondland is going to have to "pay" for his lack of candor and is on "thin ice." (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 OP
Sondland lied. dalton99a Nov 2019 #1
I think that's called perjury. dhol82 Nov 2019 #2
Yeah! Criminal referral! FBaggins Nov 2019 #22
How can you press charges? TheRealNorth Nov 2019 #32
And so did Jeff Sessions at a televised hearing a while back pecosbob Nov 2019 #8
Me, I'm waiting on Kavanaugh. fierywoman Nov 2019 #33
Trotting Traitor Tots end up fried. MFGsunny Nov 2019 #3
A willing Trump tool caught in the web of deception OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #14
I imagine his wife and her attorneys gibraltar72 Nov 2019 #4
Remind me never to stay in one of their hotels. murielm99 Nov 2019 #5
Okay, but which hotels are they? KPN Nov 2019 #9
Provenance Hotels, based in Portland, OR Raster Nov 2019 #17
Here is a link to all the Hotels they own aggiesal Nov 2019 #19
These hotels seem pretty nice Turbineguy Nov 2019 #30
So sondlands wife is the real villein? Merlot Nov 2019 #6
I didn't say that. gibraltar72 Nov 2019 #15
I doubt that she was too happy Scarsdale Nov 2019 #16
On one of the MSNBC shows perhaps Aris' ? gibraltar72 Nov 2019 #25
His wife is a a feudal tenant entirely subject to a lord or manor? comradebillyboy Nov 2019 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #7
I think it was for the inaugural committee? Apparently the limits are much higher or nonexistent. yellowcanine Nov 2019 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #13
Did anyone ever figure out where all that money went to? TheRealNorth Nov 2019 #28
Squeeze this creep HARD! world wide wally Nov 2019 #10
Betting Sondland is a NO SHOW. Then what? nt. SayItLoud Nov 2019 #12
He can be a no-show all he likes... Raster Nov 2019 #18
And it is now up to a KGB agent aka Barr to indict, he wont, ever. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #27
That ship already sailed Brother Buzz Nov 2019 #21
This is what you get when you lay with snakes. slumcamper Nov 2019 #20
But I thought he came back to "clean that up." MartyTheGreek Nov 2019 #23
Perhaps only partially cleared up. Grammy23 Nov 2019 #24
I got it now... He said it out loud in a restaurant on a private line! MartyTheGreek Nov 2019 #26
MSNBC, ex-prosecutor Chuck Rosenberg yesterday went over Sondland's empedocles Nov 2019 #29

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
8. And so did Jeff Sessions at a televised hearing a while back
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:46 AM
Nov 2019

Now he's bloody running for Senate again. I just wish someone would eventually pay for lying to Congress...I'm waiting on Stone.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
3. Trotting Traitor Tots end up fried.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:50 AM
Nov 2019

Sondland will go down in the history books as "the million-dollar charlatan barker" along MF45.

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
19. Here is a link to all the Hotels they own
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:50 PM
Nov 2019
Provenance Hotels

There are 14 hotels, mostly in Washington & Oregon
But they own in Boston, Nashville, New Orleans & Palm Springs as well.

Turbineguy

(37,343 posts)
30. These hotels seem pretty nice
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 02:17 PM
Nov 2019

artsy and comfortable. This man is obviously better at running hotels than being an international man of mystery and intrigue.

Although in all fairness I used to have a colleague who conducted his phone conversations with women loudly and on the speaker phone so everybody around would know he was going to get laid.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
6. So sondlands wife is the real villein?
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:36 AM
Nov 2019

Good to know.

(Not like that's a misogynistic stereotype or anything...)

gibraltar72

(7,506 posts)
15. I didn't say that.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:27 PM
Nov 2019

She warned him per news reports. She was not happy with the exposure and told him it would hurt them in long run.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
16. I doubt that she was too happy
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:40 PM
Nov 2019

when it was revealed that they had remodeling done at the embassy there, costing in the range of $1 Million. This is at taxpayer expense, so he got his donation back. Now, with any luck on our part, the Sondlands will not get to enjoy all the new upgrades. Too bad, like tRump, they did not stick with the hotel business.

gibraltar72

(7,506 posts)
25. On one of the MSNBC shows perhaps Aris' ?
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:38 PM
Nov 2019

a lawyer said the truth is a whole lot different than the whole truth.

comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)
31. His wife is a a feudal tenant entirely subject to a lord or manor?
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 02:24 PM
Nov 2019

Because that's what a villein is. I haven't seen that word since I studied medieval English history.

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
11. I think it was for the inaugural committee? Apparently the limits are much higher or nonexistent.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:01 PM
Nov 2019

Yes it is a loophole which should be fixed. It is a favorite of ambassador wannabes.

Response to yellowcanine (Reply #11)

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
28. Did anyone ever figure out where all that money went to?
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:52 PM
Nov 2019

I remember Rachel doing a piece comparing the Obama festivities with the Trump festivities and noted Obama did a lot more with less money.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
18. He can be a no-show all he likes...
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:45 PM
Nov 2019

...the statute of limitations for lying to Congress (PERJURY) is five years. And Sondland LIED. TO. CONGRESS.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
27. And it is now up to a KGB agent aka Barr to indict, he wont, ever.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:47 PM
Nov 2019

And unless we get our shits together putin will shut down our power grid and web on election day.

He will make it so counting is impossible or he will hack the system and cheat to elect the prick.

I call Barr and anyone who helps him or approves KGB because their actions will result in the same as if they were.

When are we going to figure this out, they do not CARE about the law or the constitution or any of us!

I am just frustrated, sorry.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
21. That ship already sailed
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:00 PM
Nov 2019

The ass already testified behind closed doors, then even amended his words. He's in WAY over his head

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
20. This is what you get when you lay with snakes.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:56 PM
Nov 2019

Dude could be getting a massage while sipping Patron on a white sand beach at the edge of blue water on a remote island in Polynesia.

Instead, he chose to toss a mill to the viper for a chance to lick his scaly ass.

There is no place in hell bad enough for these people.

MartyTheGreek

(565 posts)
23. But I thought he came back to "clean that up."
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:01 PM
Nov 2019

His memory was suddenly refreshed was that last week? What am I missing, what's new here?

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
24. Perhaps only partially cleared up.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:10 PM
Nov 2019

Maybe he needs to spend some uninterrupted time in a cell so he can focus his recall a little better.

MartyTheGreek

(565 posts)
26. I got it now... He said it out loud in a restaurant on a private line!
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:42 PM
Nov 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142395030

My self correction. Now, I'm refreshed. Hard to keep up with all the plot lines. More than Mr. Robot for sure!

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
29. MSNBC, ex-prosecutor Chuck Rosenberg yesterday went over Sondland's
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 01:55 PM
Nov 2019

comical, what would be the 3rd, 'I forgot to tell the Committee'. It would seem be memorable. Sondland was at a restaurant, talking to trump about the very suspect Ukraine deal, with President trump - and he 'forgot' that conversation?

Anyway, Rosenberg said on MSNBC, that given Sondland's legal troubles, Sondland would need to 'flip'.

This would be direct testimony, bypassing usual 'con excuses, aimed right at trump.

[Also, could lead other potential 'flippers' to reevaluate their 'prospects'].

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