you know, after the orange asshole is finally out of office, the USA will never be the same nor...

[Javaman]

secure.

you realize that right?

trumpy the shit clown continues to use an unsecured phone (among other things) and I can't help but think the treasure trove of info various nations around the world are getting and will use in the future against us.

this scares the living shit out of me

[Initech]

1. I really fear for the safety of the next democratic president, if there is one.

You think that the gun nutters and Trump cultists are violent and deranged now, you ain't seen nothing yet.

[Javaman]

2. no shit. nt

[Aristus]

3. There is one saving grace in all of this:

Most sensitive information has a suspense date; a time after which, it is no longer of any real intelligence value to anyone who has it.

I suspect most of the info Trump is burbling away is of this nature. He's too stupid to comprehend complex time-insensitive security issues.

[Grasswire2]

4. see this other thread...

[link:https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212670956|

[dewsgirl]

5. I do. Just one area of damage he has caused, is national security.

We haven't begun to see the ramifications of the Syria stunt. Why would anyone trust us?
It's all beginning to look like a huge spider web of collateral damage in so many areas, I can barely keep up. We are running out of words to describe the colossal mess he has made. All while Putin smiles.

[Initech]

8. Trump has created a whole new generation of terrorists with that stunt.

I'm reminded of that George Carlin bit where he talked about how terrorists were going to start coming out of the wood work and we would see carnage and chaos on a level we've never seen before. Man did he warn us...

[dewsgirl]

9. Each time I hear a reference to George Carlin, it pulls at my

heart. I would give anything to see him covering Trump.💔

[Initech]

13. He saw what was coming and definitely warned us.

[dewsgirl]

15. Indeed he did. Thank you.

[FiveGoodMen]

16. Which future pukes will use to justify more barbarity

Mission accomplished.

[FiveGoodMen]

17. Which future pukes will use to justify more barbarity

Mission accomplished.

[brush]

29. This is it exactly. There was a guest on cable today who spoke of a report from...

other people in other countries who used to look up to the US for our principles and rule of law but now see us as just like everyone else because of out betrayal of the Kurds and extortion of the Ukrainians, not mention all the other trump fuck ups and internaional embarrassments.

[uponit7771]

32. +1, not only this but expect no op sec for decades as we take out Russian spies, bots and viruses

[dewsgirl]

33. Indeed, it's going to take decades to clean this mess.😔

[Hortensis]

6. Actually, we needed this slap across the face. RW authoritarianism,

most in a fascist mode, is on the march, not just around the planet but here.

We have to stop it and reestablish the mores and procedures the Republicans have smashed.

But we didn't invent them and we don't have to reinvent them. Many are far older than the 250 years our republic has existed, ALL are based on core values of living people, and our governments are full of people who applied them in their daily work and want to return to that, such as the two who testified yesterday. And many here on DU. They're the way things must be.

If you really imagine OUR party is as devoid of principle as the Republican leadership has become, that's scary. Seriously. Why would any person who understands the morals and principles underlying democracy not recognize that those principles live in our party? (AND among liberals in general, as well as many moderate conservatives who've rejected what the Republican Party has become?)

A lack of conviction in the strength of our principles scares me because no doubt it reflects the weakness of millions. All I can suggest to those people is to find someone whose integrity they believe in and follow that person's lead.

BE one of the millions committed to our principles. A new commitment to probity is government is a very likely reaction to near-destruction by corruption. It certainly has been in the past.

Itm, our Democratic legislators, overall, are. Let's remember the very first, giant bill the 116th house passed to fix the problems today's corrupt Republicans either created or were the first to use weaknesses over the 235 years after our constitution was ratified. Look and believe. And support.

[Aquaria]

28. The reason we are here now

Is because people stopped supporting the Democratic Party even when they agreed with the party. They stopped voting out of laziness or, worse, if they couldn’t get the exact candidate they wanted. They stopped thinking that their first priority for volunteeering could be for the party they were best lined up with.

Political parties get compromised or can even die without the support of people. Worse, most people seem to have forgotten that, with any issue you can think of, the government has a far larger impact on whether or not anything gets done about it than all the special interest groups put together. The special interest groups are fine for raising awareness, but they can’t touch the government when it comes to getting things DONE. It makes zero sense to volunteer for the Sierra Club, or a literacy program or even cancer research when government will have a far greater role in fixing each of those problems than all of the interest groups combined. Wouldn’t a party that furthered and protected and improved your concerns about any given issue be the first you volunteered for if you wanted to get the most bang for your volunteer time or money?

But no, people are foolish enough to think that politics are dirty rather than an organizational tool to get the most good done for more people than charity EVER has.

I watched as political participation withered away, year after year, at local and state levels. And then some of them got sniffy when corporations and the rich started filling the void. Guess what? That wouldn’t have happened if enough people had been engaged in their party to fight back.

I worked on my first campaign at six years old, helping my family stuff envelopes for Bobby Kennedy’s tragic Presidential run. I worked on numerous campaigns and was there at local HQs when everyone else was partying and goofing off. I did it for decades.

I’ve spent my time in the trenches hanging in there and fighting for the only that gives a damn about real people, only to see fewer and fewer people taking part—while doing ZERO but complain about the party they were too selfish and lazy to support. And now I’m too sick and too exhausted from that to keep fighting that fight for so little reward. It’s everyone else’s turn to stop being whiny titty babies and step the hell up for the party, the country and all that we hold dear—before there’s nothing left worth fighting for.

[Hortensis]

30. Yes. Weak willies are easy victims, but nothing new.

Those easily mind-fucked always were among us. One of the candidates routinely insists there's little difference between Democrats and Republicans, a message that's had a LW market for decades. People with a solid moral core and liberal values, though, know who they are and regard those statements with the contempt they deserve.

The highly principled government careerists testifying right now against Trump and the Republicans are proof to the nation of how lacking in understanding messages such as this OP's are. Not that we don't have a lot of cleanup to do, but there are plenty who do know how to sweep and scrub, and why.

Best for serenity is to just ignore this stuff. I change the channel and keep it changed when black-pillers come on, and we record the debates and fast forward through candidates who feed hostile media their material.

After all, we're the people who elected Democrat Barack Obama twice and our first woman president once. We're the blue wave of the current elections, AND we are the lifelong despair of those condemned to be emotionally invested in our defeat.

[dustyscamp]

34. We really need more good people like you more than ever

The elections from now on will be tougher and more crucial than ever before. 2016 can't happen again. We can't let apathy, ignorance and hate stop our progress in making a better country for all.

[jimlup]

7. Yes, our government has been compromised at the very highest levels by an

imbecile. I'm sure a lot of senior people saw it coming. Like a slow-motion train wreck.

[Arkansas Granny]

11. An imbecile who has been aided and abetted by the Republicans in Congress.

They all need to go, as well.

[jimlup]

18. +1

yes

[Harker]

10. Right.

America was a pretty good idea, though.

I will feel better when a Democrat succeeds an eight year Democratic President, and the republicants are a hopeless minority.

[lpbk2713]

12. A lot of valuable govt employees have retired or gone elsewhere.

They got tired of dealing with his shit and couldn't put up with it any more.
They will be hard to replace.

[get the red out]

14. Scares me too

But we have to get rid of this orange lump of vulture vomit to start even attempting to save the future of the US.

[dustyscamp]

19. The Cons will always be there unfortunately

Trump's Family
Corrupt RW Politicians
RW Judges
RW Radio
RW Social Media
Rush Limbaugh
Ben Garrison
Candace Owens
Gorka
Ben Shapiro
Jordan Peterson
Proud Boys
Militant Cons
Alt Right
8chan
Telegram
& many more

[AllaN01Bear]

26. sinclair broadcasting

and a local rw who here owns 3 radio stations and a few major communications media.

[Blue_true]

20. The fact that Trump got elected forever changed my perception of the USA's

populace for the worse. I now can't trust that we will collectively do the right thing at critical times.

[Nitram]

21. Best case scenario: we get the republic back onto a constitutional track.

Trump has already made us grow up and stop putting up with GOP fuckery.

[SCantiGOP]

22. I'm more optimistic

We were on the brink before, especially at the turn of the 19th Century and again after the start of the Great Depression.
Two amazing patriots, one Republican and one Democrat, both named Roosevelt, rejuvenated and reclaimed the vision of the Founding Fathers.

[zentrum]

24. +++++ Yes, it

...goes back 120 years.

[zentrum]

23. Yes. That's clear...

......but I don't think it broke in the last 3 years. All the fractures were there before.

Citizen's United destroying democracy, our un-dealt with systemic racism, the lies and cynicism of the Iraq War, Fox News, Cheney and his Unitary Executive doctrine. The electoral College. To name but a few. It's been being broken for a long time.

[AllaN01Bear]

25. this

&t=235s&app=desktop
my new personal anthem

also this

&app=desktop
hope this thing in the white house is gone before then.

[The Blue Flower]

27. And there's all the info he gave Vlad

Our security is blown, and there will be harmful consequences.

[Crash2Parties]

31. Don't forget the 150 Federal judge seats filled that McConnell held open...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. Not if he is in jail. . . . nt

[Rabrrrrrr]

36. On the plus side, the fast rate of change of technology and other things

means that even if Dumbshit Orange Turd has spilled gigabits of classified info, most all of that info is gonna be outdated quickly.

Yeah, it'll be shitty for a year or two - but whatever secret info he's given away to profit himself we will have developed more advanced tech by the time our enemies can use very much of it.