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Yovanovitch is absolutely devastating. OMG. She's detailing what thugs have infested the White House (Original Post) catbyte Nov 2019 OP
Devastating is the word! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2019 #1
Just like Wednesday's testimony, absolutely chilling. MerryBlooms Nov 2019 #2
Much more effective today than We'd IMHO. Didnt Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #29
You could probably hear a pin drop in that hearing room. Mike 03 Nov 2019 #3
gop/foxnews will spin this as "disgruntled worker" mantra. We know that is their only tactic beachbumbob Nov 2019 #4
Goldman and Schiff are True Blue American Nov 2019 #7
yes they are but all that will be ignored by the propaganda foxnews machine as usual beachbumbob Nov 2019 #8
Will not work True Blue American Nov 2019 #9
works fine for propaganda outlets, always has beachbumbob Nov 2019 #10
fox news is showing the same things as MSNBC. In the fox chyrons they empedocles Nov 2019 #13
Wish we could demand proof (that she was a bad ambassador) Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #30
Trump provides the proof in his Tweet ProgressDiv Nov 2019 #35
Damn she is good! Botany Nov 2019 #5
Professional to the max. Contrast with amateur tRump & Ghouliani gangs clumsy joint efforts. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #19
She has the I am in charge here vibe Botany Nov 2019 #21
She was so poised. Even while speaking about how shattering it was to have the POTUS calimary Nov 2019 #33
Looks like many republicans have left the dias during yavanovich's testimony. CincyDem Nov 2019 #6
They're probably trying to figure out they're going to attack her. Taking orders from WH. catbyte Nov 2019 #11
getting their orders from twitler MerryBlooms Nov 2019 #14
Had to go to the hallway to check emails. Can't have phones inside the House chamber. nt crickets Nov 2019 #26
they couldn't handle the truth. Hearing it from an intelligent, articulate female describe the onetexan Nov 2019 #31
Are they allowed to go in and out of the room shanti Nov 2019 #37
Typical GOPer disrespect Dirty Socialist Nov 2019 #38
She sounds like one of the millions of quiet Americans who go to work every day... TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #12
This! erronis Nov 2019 #18
It had me in tears. She was speaking for many people. Politicub Nov 2019 #23
It's bad. OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #15
Don't think so, gab13by13 Nov 2019 #17
I hope Dems talk more about gab13by13 Nov 2019 #16
Lots of pictures of them with that thing currently infesting the White House, too. catbyte Nov 2019 #27
I hope her opening statement and first questions get posted somewhere later. woodsprite Nov 2019 #20
Oops.. CBS is latching on to....... Chakaconcarne Nov 2019 #22
It's not a transcript. It's a memo about that selectively quotes and edits Politicub Nov 2019 #24
The recess is having an impact.... getagrip_already Nov 2019 #25
Damn good! Thank you for the update. I cannot watch it due to heavy work demands, nor can i onetexan Nov 2019 #32
And Nunes is an idiot. Perseus Nov 2019 #28
Dis gonna be good! Pass the butter! Initech Nov 2019 #34
I am not watching, but from the postings here PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #36
The way she is describing the set up in Ukraine is literally laying out for the malaise Nov 2019 #39
Forrest trump duforsure Nov 2019 #40
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. Much more effective today than We'd IMHO. Didnt
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:34 PM
Nov 2019

Know much about the smear campaign, trump tweets, witness intimidation until today. They tied it all together brilliantly.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
4. gop/foxnews will spin this as "disgruntled worker" mantra. We know that is their only tactic
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:22 AM
Nov 2019

and why witness after witness must reinforce what trump did was wrong and we must make hay about those who choose to ignore subpoenas and testimony as implication of guilt.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
8. yes they are but all that will be ignored by the propaganda foxnews machine as usual
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:30 AM
Nov 2019

and why we need subpoenas enforced and witness sitting at the table all pleading "the 5th".

nothing settle the question of guilt better

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
13. fox news is showing the same things as MSNBC. In the fox chyrons they
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:36 AM
Nov 2019

have quoted words like 'bribery'.

Away from all the detail, it seems important that MSNBC, above the usual chyrons states:


'WH IN CRISIS'

 

ProgressDiv

(31 posts)
35. Trump provides the proof in his Tweet
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:27 PM
Nov 2019

Since Trump lies about everything, calling her "bad" is proof to sane people that she is the opposite. (Not to mention that it's criminal witness tampering.)

calimary

(81,311 posts)
33. She was so poised. Even while speaking about how shattering it was to have the POTUS
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:00 PM
Nov 2019

badmouthing you and lying and misrepresenting you - TO ANOTHER NATION'S LEADER.

You could tell she was still affected by that, and disturbed by that. A reputation takes a long time to build, and a few heated bullshit words on Twitter to destroy.

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
6. Looks like many republicans have left the dias during yavanovich's testimony.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:27 AM
Nov 2019

C-span just panned the dias and there are many empty seats, including Nunes and Jordan.

Could it be more obvious that they have no interest in hearing anything that might tarnish their Dear Leader.

Asshats.

catbyte

(34,402 posts)
11. They're probably trying to figure out they're going to attack her. Taking orders from WH.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:34 AM
Nov 2019

Didn't that thing keep sending emails on Wednesday? I'm sure he's really going nuts because he HATES it when women call him out.

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
31. they couldn't handle the truth. Hearing it from an intelligent, articulate female describe the
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:43 PM
Nov 2019

malfeasance that occurred would be too much to the GOP of course.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
37. Are they allowed to go in and out of the room
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:41 PM
Nov 2019

while the hearing is taking place? It seems like that would be very disruptive.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
12. She sounds like one of the millions of quiet Americans who go to work every day...
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:35 AM
Nov 2019

and just does the best she can in a difficult job.

You can hear the pain in her voice when she talks about how she was victimized. "33 years and this is how it ends?"

There are times I wish Hell existed for people like Trump and his ass kissers.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
23. It had me in tears. She was speaking for many people.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:15 PM
Nov 2019

Her testimony will reverberate beyond the impeachment hearings.

 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
15. It's bad.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:43 AM
Nov 2019

It sounds like Trump put a hit out on Yovanovitch, or gave Putin the green light. The state dept found out and got her out.

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
17. Don't think so,
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:03 PM
Nov 2019

they did want her to think that, to scare her badly so that she wouldn't testify. Without these brave people testifying we don't have nearly as strong a case. First hand knowledge baby.

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
16. I hope Dems talk more about
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:00 PM
Nov 2019

the 2 indicted Ukrainian thugs who have been indicted, who worked with Giuliani. Lots of pictures with Trump and these 2 scum bags.

catbyte

(34,402 posts)
27. Lots of pictures of them with that thing currently infesting the White House, too.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:22 PM
Nov 2019

I've seen at least eight.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
20. I hope her opening statement and first questions get posted somewhere later.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:10 PM
Nov 2019

I was in a meeting. I came in just at the end, and have been suffering through the callers and other assholes (the R from New York) on CSPAN2 in hopes they get back underway before I have to go into another meeting.

Chakaconcarne

(2,453 posts)
22. Oops.. CBS is latching on to.......
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:12 PM
Nov 2019

the difference between the transcript read by Nunes (which was unexpected) of this first phone call and what the white house said was on this call a few months ago.....

..and what point to read this transcript today? What a huge blunder......

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
24. It's not a transcript. It's a memo about that selectively quotes and edits
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:17 PM
Nov 2019

content from a transcript.

And the gop fools couldn’t even get their whitewashing of the call right.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
25. The recess is having an impact....
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:17 PM
Nov 2019

All the outlets are talking about the opening remarks and 45 min segment. There is no republican talking point yet. they haven't asked a question.

All the outlets have is the first hour. Of course, the repugs have an extra hour or two to think up questions for their 45 minute segment, but they have had weeks anyway, so no real advantage there.

What a well planned vote.

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
32. Damn good! Thank you for the update. I cannot watch it due to heavy work demands, nor can i
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:46 PM
Nov 2019

stomach the rabid republican men attempt to disparage a female witness, especially someone with impeccable record as Ms. Yovanovich.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
28. And Nunes is an idiot.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:24 PM
Nov 2019

He sounds so incompetent too, he seems to be angry all the time.

I am sure Gym Jordan will start his wrestling coach act of yelling and talking fast to impress his daddy in the WH. Despicable...

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
36. I am not watching, but from the postings here
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:37 PM
Nov 2019

she might be the John Dean of these hearings.

I have a friend who worked for the State Department for several years. She had a posting in Ukraine and Yovanovitch was there at the time -- not sure if she would have been ambassador then. My friend highly praises Yovanovitch. Calls her Masha, which is what she really goes by, at least informally/among friends/with coworkers.

malaise

(269,053 posts)
39. The way she is describing the set up in Ukraine is literally laying out for the
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:50 PM
Nov 2019

American people the way in which the Con is trying to corrupt American institutions and turn them into post-Soviet corruption.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
40. Forrest trump
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 02:08 PM
Nov 2019

Has probably already had 4 to 5 diapers changed after her exposing him more this morning, and a lot more coming daily. Corrupt republicans got to be kissing their futures good bye after the American people show their disapprove of all the corruption , lies, and for our Democracy being undermined by Putin and trump with their help. And this is only the beginning. This is getting better every day, and trump criminal buddy Stone just got convicted too

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