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Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 04:40 PM Nov 2019

Now that it's becoming clear that Trump will be impeached, removed and hopefully indicted...

I have a question.

WHEN he enters the white collar prison system, will we still have to pay for his Secret Service protection so he isn't Epsteined?

I realize this is wishful thinking, but it's been SO long and he continues to pull more and more impeachable offenses, like obstruction.

Just sayin'.

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Now that it's becoming clear that Trump will be impeached, removed and hopefully indicted... (Original Post) Frustratedlady Nov 2019 OP
Heavens. Impeached, yes. Removed? We aren't even close to concluding that yet) hlthe2b Nov 2019 #1
I think if he is impeached, he no longer receives lifetime dewsgirl Nov 2019 #2
He also won't be able to run for federal office again ritapria Nov 2019 #3
Is that only if the Senate removes him? dewsgirl Nov 2019 #4
Yes. dware Nov 2019 #6
NOT AUTOMATICALLY. They would have to convict AND pass a separate bill to ban him from hlthe2b Nov 2019 #8
Only if he's convicted and removed by the Senate, dware Nov 2019 #5
That is right ...Only if Convicted ritapria Nov 2019 #7
He has to be convicted, not merely impeached. 11 Bravo Nov 2019 #15
He won't be removed. nt Codeine Nov 2019 #9
Perhaps he will resign Kitchari Nov 2019 #12
McConnel will never allow a trial to happen beachbumbob Nov 2019 #10
I thought even McConnell admited that there has to be a trial in the Senate MissMillie Nov 2019 #20
constitution sets NO time limit and a 51% vote can delay trial indefinitely, what reason beachbumbob Nov 2019 #23
I'll agree with you if you can make a sensible case as to who the 20 Repubs... bearsfootball516 Nov 2019 #11
I (we) have spent so many hours/week tracking this criminal and his cohorts Frustratedlady Nov 2019 #14
He will NOT be removed! nt Raine Nov 2019 #13
I don't think Senate Republicans will uphold the law Rizen Nov 2019 #16
Impeached, yes. Removed, no. OliverQ Nov 2019 #17
I echo those who say removal won't happen. *Maybe* resignation, but I doubt it. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #18
With regret, I remind of the ending of "To Kill a Mockingbird" librechik Nov 2019 #19
Much as I wish for a resignation by MF45, he probably won't do it if the OLC memo .... MFGsunny Nov 2019 #21
When he is no longer in office, imagine how many factions will step forth to indict him. Frustratedlady Nov 2019 #22

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
1. Heavens. Impeached, yes. Removed? We aren't even close to concluding that yet)
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 04:43 PM
Nov 2019

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

But the question about SS protection has been asked a lot. Apparently they likely can negotiate out a protective detail with US Marshall's service and Bureau of Prisons.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
8. NOT AUTOMATICALLY. They would have to convict AND pass a separate bill to ban him from
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 04:49 PM
Nov 2019

holding Federal office again. It is not automatic, but can be done and has been done at least once in a Federal judicial impeachment.

MissMillie

(38,560 posts)
20. I thought even McConnell admited that there has to be a trial in the Senate
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 08:38 PM
Nov 2019

within a very specific time-frame.

I don't know if it's a law or just a Senate rule.

Regardless, it is not guaranteed that if it is a law/rule, that the Senate GOP will vote to convict or remove.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
23. constitution sets NO time limit and a 51% vote can delay trial indefinitely, what reason
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 08:04 AM
Nov 2019

does McConnel have that is of benefit to GOP and trump to hold a trial at all?


McConnell will do the Merrick Garland move

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
11. I'll agree with you if you can make a sensible case as to who the 20 Repubs...
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 05:05 PM
Nov 2019

...who would need to flip for conviction are.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
14. I (we) have spent so many hours/week tracking this criminal and his cohorts
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 05:13 PM
Nov 2019

that I (we) need a light at the end of the tunnel. I believe that when all is said and almost done, the Repukes will finally realize the country is worth more than their party and vote for what is right. I believe the Supreme Court will either reject to view the many cases Trump has sent their way or will rule in the country's favor.

When this happens and the Repukes see that Trump is on his way down (along with several of his cohorts), the tide will change and we will finally be rid of the cancer on our country.

I (we) must have something to keep us putting one foot in front of the other. Getting rid of Trump is at the top of my list.

Rizen

(709 posts)
16. I don't think Senate Republicans will uphold the law
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 06:08 PM
Nov 2019

But it's going to be a disaster for them in the 2020 election. We have to vote them all out.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. I echo those who say removal won't happen. *Maybe* resignation, but I doubt it.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 07:15 PM
Nov 2019

More than likely, we're simply going to have to overcome all of the lies, foreign interference and voter suppression next November.

Hopefully impeachment damages him severely, because there will be election fraud. We have to turn out the base like never before to overcome shenanigans.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
19. With regret, I remind of the ending of "To Kill a Mockingbird"
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 07:44 PM
Nov 2019

S ure, reality and Atticus and every fact on earth demonstrated that the defendant could not in fact have done the crime. But the racist, nose picking, moronic assholes on the jury ignored the facts and voted for Dixie.

That is what I expect. More proof of what a lost and self-forsaken problem we are as a country. I wish I didn't.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
21. Much as I wish for a resignation by MF45, he probably won't do it if the OLC memo ....
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 08:48 PM
Nov 2019

.... would no longer apply. He's not pResident, he can be indicted; of course, as part of his resignation deal he could try to negotiate a non-prosecution agreement for federal crimes (but would still have NY state?).

Would appreciate expert opinions from legal beagles here on DU as to what all THAT scenario
might have to look like.

Anyone???

(Thanks in advance)

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
22. When he is no longer in office, imagine how many factions will step forth to indict him.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:48 PM
Nov 2019

He has walked away from his troubles so many times, but I don't think it is going to happen, this time.

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