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malaise

(269,054 posts)
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:49 PM Nov 2019

Ukraine scandal is a microcosm of what we already know: Trump's presidency is a failure

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-11-17/trumps-ukraine-scandal-microcosm-bad-president
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It’s easy to get drawn into the drama of the Ukraine story, to be mesmerized by that country’s war against Russia and its brazen corruption, by characters like Hunter Biden and Paul Manafort and Lev and Igor and the ever-shifting cast of presidents, prosecutors, diplomats and criminals. We’re all learning more than we ever thought we’d know about Kyiv and its internal politics as the House of Representatives focuses its impeachment inquiry on a narrow set of allegations about President Trump’s misbehavior there.

But even as members of Congress zoom in tightly on Ukraine, it’s important that the rest of us not lose sight of the bigger picture. The Ukraine scandal is, at the end of the day, really just a microcosm, a single piece of a much broader story about this president. What he is accused of doing there is, to one degree or another, what he does everywhere, and it speaks to who he is — his character, his style, his values and his failure as president.

So let’s not ignore the wider context in which these allegations have emerged.

Trump, as this page has noted repeatedly, is a man for whom everything is transactional, and who is engaged in a constant struggle for short-term advantage. Blustering, bullying, threatening and arm-twisting are his tools. He doesn’t feel bound by the rules and niceties that have guided most of his predecessors, or by the constitutional and institutional limits that have constrained them. Norms, shared values, civil institutions and even the rule of law take a back seat, in his playbook, to the ceaseless struggle for the upper hand. He doesn’t seem to make much distinction between what’s good for America and what’s good for him personally. His disdain for the truth and his attraction to conspiracy theories are well known.
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Ukraine scandal is a microcosm of what we already know: Trump's presidency is a failure (Original Post) malaise Nov 2019 OP
that sums it up perfectly for me as well. SterlingPound Nov 2019 #1
We (well most of us) knew that before it started Butterflylady Nov 2019 #2
I would guess his incompetence has pissed off a lot of Wiseguys Baked Potato Nov 2019 #3
A statement by Mulvaney in his rant on t.v. where he said "we do this all the time" shraby Nov 2019 #4
I think Mulvaney actual said a truth - a firing offence in this maladmin. erronis Nov 2019 #6
Agree malaise Nov 2019 #7
For trump, "everything is transactional". So are many other politicians around the world erronis Nov 2019 #5

Butterflylady

(3,544 posts)
2. We (well most of us) knew that before it started
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:57 PM
Nov 2019

We knew he was going to be a disaster, we just didn't know it be this horrific.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
4. A statement by Mulvaney in his rant on t.v. where he said "we do this all the time"
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:15 PM
Nov 2019

Has bothered me since. How many countries and how many people?

The news has let this slide. I needs delving into.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
6. I think Mulvaney actual said a truth - a firing offence in this maladmin.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:24 PM
Nov 2019

That's why we have so many "dark" budgets within opaque agencies. As well as funding mercenaries and other governments/groups to carry out our dastardly deeds.

Not sure how to combat the same evil behavior from other parties, however.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
5. For trump, "everything is transactional". So are many other politicians around the world
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:21 PM
Nov 2019

And those are the ones easily manipulated.

Boris Johnson. Farage. All the (r)epuglicons. Most every dictatorship including much of South America, Middle East (SA, etc.), Philippines, and of course China and the current USSR.

What's good for the ownership right now. Not what's good for the country or the people or the world.

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