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BREAKING: VP Pence denies conversation with Ambassador Sondland (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2019 OP
Running away from the wheels of the bus UpInArms Nov 2019 #1
So Mike Pounce doesn't like the view from under the bus? The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #2
Hahahahaaahahaaa!!! Leghorn21 Nov 2019 #3
Ok boomer Otto Lidenbrock Nov 2019 #4
And away we go with the denials.... JohnnyLib2 Nov 2019 #5
Pence the Liar atreides1 Nov 2019 #6
There are - what? leftieNanner Nov 2019 #25
They're eating each other Johnny2X2X Nov 2019 #7
Yep and he's so dirty that it ain't never gonna happen. 2naSalit Nov 2019 #21
well then Mikey, tell your boss to release the transcripts/emails/letters/texts etc. spanone Nov 2019 #8
Pence is in front of the mirror mouthing flamingdem Nov 2019 #9
*snort* nolabear Nov 2019 #12
Sounds like we need to have pence testify in public NightWatcher Nov 2019 #10
Subpoena his ass. triron Nov 2019 #27
He needs to come in and say it under oath. n/t Mr. Sparkle Nov 2019 #11
There is no loyalty among thieves. Love it! Claritie Pixie Nov 2019 #13
Let him deny it under oath. nt jrthin Nov 2019 #14
Dems need to read this to Sondland today Mike 03 Nov 2019 #15
Pence's time in the barrel is coming. Loge23 Nov 2019 #16
Perhaps he should say so under oath, as in, ooky Nov 2019 #17
Marc Short is the man of little Truth. Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #18
Correction: "Pence slipped and failed to establish complete deniability." Hortensis Nov 2019 #19
Extremely positive development. Jirel Nov 2019 #20
It's like a Mexican Standoff Docreed2003 Nov 2019 #22
Well bless his heart. Mme. Defarge Nov 2019 #23
Sondland didn't say they had a conversation eleny Nov 2019 #24
Think I'm going to believe the guy under oath... Quiet_Dem_Mom Nov 2019 #26
Well call Pence to testify mainstreetonce Nov 2019 #28
Come on, Pence...say it under oath to Congress. TruckFump Nov 2019 #29
Then release all the goddam emails texts and phone transcripts to prove it mucifer Nov 2019 #30
They are ALL going to be throwing each other under the bus DeminPennswoods Nov 2019 #31
Under the bus cannabis_flower Nov 2019 #32
Who you gonna believe? Pachamama Nov 2019 #33
This is going to end like Nixon-Agnew-Ford DeminPennswoods Nov 2019 #34
The lady doth protest too much, methinks C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #35
Heavens No! Baked Potato Nov 2019 #36
Lies make baby Jesus cry, Mike. nt coti Nov 2019 #37
Quadrupling down, I see. ffr Nov 2019 #38
he's welcome to testify under oath NewJeffCT Nov 2019 #39
Pence has an alibi only a mother could love Blue Owl Nov 2019 #40
Geez do we believe Liar #1 or Liar #2 Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #41

leftieNanner

(15,137 posts)
25. There are - what?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:53 PM
Nov 2019

Maybe four or five commandments? Honor thy Mother. That one for sure. Don't remember anything about bearing false witness...

2naSalit

(86,744 posts)
21. Yep and he's so dirty that it ain't never gonna happen.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:50 PM
Nov 2019

All that pious white paint can't cover up the stink on that sh*t. What you get for selling us out while selling your soul.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. Marc Short is the man of little Truth.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:47 PM
Nov 2019

Interesting thing,Bus's are assembled in Indiana. Mikey has a Bullseye on his ass.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Correction: "Pence slipped and failed to establish complete deniability."
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:47 PM
Nov 2019

It could grow into something that at least rules him out for POTUS. When I think of a raging, vengeful Trump determined to punish the American people for betraying him and newly convinced of his power, though, I'm not sure that's a good thing.

Even if McConnell decided he needed to dump Trump, how would this affect that decision? I'm afraid Trump might well become even more, even extremely, dangerous in the short term, while Pence and his authoritarian/religious bloc would be very dangerous over a longer period. Pence always fit their plan, and this would be getting back on track.

Jirel

(2,019 posts)
20. Extremely positive development.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:49 PM
Nov 2019

This means the protective wall around Dolt45 is breaking. Pence may not be able to save himself, but he is drawing the line at going down for the Con.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
24. Sondland didn't say they had a conversation
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:52 PM
Nov 2019

After a meeting where others were present, Sondland only mentioned that the aid was being held up and Pence nodded in agreement.

Pence's assertion is nothing but weasel words.

Quiet_Dem_Mom

(599 posts)
26. Think I'm going to believe the guy under oath...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:53 PM
Nov 2019

who just watched another tRump crony charged & convicted of making false statements to Congress over Pence.

DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
34. This is going to end like Nixon-Agnew-Ford
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:02 PM
Nov 2019

The GOP is going to realize there's no saving Trump and Pence is dirty, too. Given the election results in VA, KY and LA, they now know there's nothing to fear from distancing themselves from Trump who they don't want anyway. But if Trump resigns, then Pence has the same problem with the "arms for dirt" crime. So, they'll figure a way to make Pence resign, install an establishment R type like maybe Boehner as VP, then convict Trump, remove him from office and allow Boehner to finish out the term.

C_U_L8R

(45,014 posts)
35. The lady doth protest too much, methinks
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:03 PM
Nov 2019

and too quickly. Pence has everything to lose and is up to his ears in complicity.

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