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Whoa !!! Was Nixon's shit this riveting ?!?! This is out of movies (Original Post) uponit7771 Nov 2019 OP
Long time ago but, at the time, it was must see TV...just like today. IMHO n/t CincyDem Nov 2019 #1
Sometimes. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #2
Yep! liberaltrucker Nov 2019 #9
I don't either PatSeg Nov 2019 #12
Yes, go out and look for the youtube video of Barbara Jordan's remarks. redstatebluegirl Nov 2019 #3
link ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #5
Oddly enough that clip is dated 1971. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #23
"1971" is a typo. it's the correct speech: 1974-07-25 Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #30
It's a bit depressing that the typo wasn't caught long ago. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #31
Jordan was fantastic and one-of-a-kind NewJeffCT Nov 2019 #8
Yes! redstatebluegirl Nov 2019 #20
God, yes wryter2000 Nov 2019 #18
I do too. nocoincidences Nov 2019 #21
I watched it with my dad marlakay Nov 2019 #4
+1, that's me right now ... screaming at the TV. I told the kids this is historic and people .... uponit7771 Nov 2019 #6
During Watergate, PatSeg Nov 2019 #13
Yes. TruckFump Nov 2019 #7
sometimes dweller Nov 2019 #10
👍🏼 uponit7771 Nov 2019 #11
That's a very good way of putting it. nt crickets Nov 2019 #32
It did and then the John Dean bombshell hit beachbumbob Nov 2019 #14
And Alexander Butterfield wryter2000 Nov 2019 #17
Keep in mind Cable TV was in its infancy. Norbert Nov 2019 #15
It had amazing moments wryter2000 Nov 2019 #16
👍 sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #27
Yep. LakeArenal Nov 2019 #19
I was there DFW Nov 2019 #22
What this doesn't have yet is the Perry Mason big reveal moment... brooklynite Nov 2019 #24
Butterfield wryter2000 Nov 2019 #25
Now I want pancakes. sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #28
Butterfield wasn't a low-level functionary. He was one of the most important WH aides. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #29
But in black and white C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #26

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
2. Sometimes.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:21 PM
Nov 2019

John Dean and Alexander Butterfield definitely threw grenades into the room. But I don’t remember as much yelling.

liberaltrucker

(9,130 posts)
9. Yep!
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:36 PM
Nov 2019

When Butterfield revealed the existence of the WH recording
system, you could hear a pin drop in the committee room.

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
12. I don't either
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:38 PM
Nov 2019

Televised hearings didn't used to be so theatrical. Over time, senators and congressional representatives started playing to the camera, hoping to be the clip that gets replayed for days. I recall people behaving more like Adam Schiff, measured and understated.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
23. Oddly enough that clip is dated 1971.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:51 PM
Nov 2019

Her speech could not have occurred before the Watergate Hearings began in 1973.

nocoincidences

(2,227 posts)
21. I do too.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:31 PM
Nov 2019

She was one of the greatest America has produced.

If we could hear the voice of God, it would sound like Barbara Jordan.

I forget who said that, but I immediately understood it.

marlakay

(11,482 posts)
4. I watched it with my dad
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:22 PM
Nov 2019

In high school and I was just a normal teen not into school. Something must have caught my attention. Maybe it was my dad screaming at tv!

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
6. +1, that's me right now ... screaming at the TV. I told the kids this is historic and people ....
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:25 PM
Nov 2019

.... remembered Nixon and I didn't want to miss this history.

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
13. During Watergate,
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:40 PM
Nov 2019

I had a three year old, so couldn't stay riveted to the TV. I saw it in bits and pieces. I'm determined to witness history this time, rather than read about it later on.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
7. Yes.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:27 PM
Nov 2019

I watched every minute and this was at a time TV live could not be taped or DVRed.

This is also before the age of headphones. When I had to leave my TV, I took with me a then-tiny, now-huge, pink plastic transistor radio and held it to my ear. I developed great arms from the weight of doing this.

Norbert

(6,040 posts)
15. Keep in mind Cable TV was in its infancy.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:41 PM
Nov 2019

Almost all of us had 5 channels or less. The big three networks all had the Watergate hearings. If you had the TV on most likely it was on the hearings and many of us were riveted to the TV.

wryter2000

(46,076 posts)
16. It had amazing moments
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:45 PM
Nov 2019

It was never this clear what crimes Nixon had committed. This is over the top, esp. because the Republicans are such assholes.

DFW

(54,428 posts)
22. I was there
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:46 PM
Nov 2019

Yes, Nixon's shit WAS this riveting

Nixon just looked in the camera and said, "I'm not a crook," while no one believed it, including him, and it showed. Everyone knew he was going down because even staunch Republicans like Barry Goldwater publicly declared that enough is enough, and I've heard enough. There are no such Republicans in the US Congress any more, which is why Trump thinks he can hang on, and who knows? He might even be right.

Trump says, "I am not a crook," and believes it because he has gotten away with EVERYTHING he ever did that was wrong, and thinks that he will somehow wriggle out of this as well. He has always done it because he has always bought his way out. But this time, his rich friends are less impressed by more money than by the prospect of going to prison for a few years. THAT can put an end to presidential loyalty or a run for Congress in a big hurry.

The irony that it is NOT Hillary that will be locked up will probably not be lost on many people, even Republicans.

brooklynite

(94,679 posts)
24. What this doesn't have yet is the Perry Mason big reveal moment...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 06:12 PM
Nov 2019

The Watergate tapes were revealed by Alexander Butterworth, a low-level functionary that nobody had heard of before.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
29. Butterfield wasn't a low-level functionary. He was one of the most important WH aides.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 06:34 PM
Nov 2019

His title was Deputy Assistant to the President - he was Chief of Staff Haldeman's chief assistant.

Next to Haldeman, Butterfield was the most powerful aide in the White House. He met with Nixon and Haldeman every day at 2 P.M. to plan the following day's activities. He "completely controlled" what paperwork Nixon saw, and logged memos. He accompanied Haldeman on all domestic trips, co-supervised traveling White House staff with Haldeman, and ran the White House when Haldeman and Nixon went on foreign trips. Every meeting the president attended required "talking points" for Nixon written by an appropriate staff person as well as an after-meeting summary by that person, and Butterfield oversaw the process by which both documents were completed and filed. Butterfield also oversaw all FBI investigations requested by the White House, which included routine background checks of potential employees as well as politically motivated investigations. Other than Haldeman, no one had a more intimate knowledge of Nixon's working style, the daily operations of the White House, what Nixon may have read, or who Nixon may have met.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Butterfield

Because of his position he was one of a very small number of people who knew about the taping system - the others were only Nixon, Haldeman, another Haldeman assistant and the three or four Secret Service technicians who installed it. John Dean had testified that he suspected that White House conversations were being taped, so after that, other witnesses were asked if they knew about it. Butterfield finally spilled the beans.
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