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***IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING NOV 21 THREAD 1*** (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 OP
Morning! blaze Nov 2019 #1
Here we go malaise Nov 2019 #2
Another day of the Trump death watch... Peacetrain Nov 2019 #3
LOL am watching CSPAN3 as they are letting "the public" come in BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #4
Get your popcorn ready - this is going to be good! polichick Nov 2019 #5
Witnesses have come into the room. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #6
Thanks. Bum Rush. For providing this forum to catch up and vent. Zoonart Nov 2019 #93
No problem and glad to help with so many others posting here! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #96
Morning. Mersky Nov 2019 #7
You are welcome and thanks to adding to the threads!! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #10
Adding my thanks and good morning! crickets Nov 2019 #17
And thank you again for all the threads yesterday!!! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #20
You are welcome! crickets Nov 2019 #21
Thanks, BumRushDaShow gademocrat7 Nov 2019 #26
We get a break after today BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #27
Thanks, crickets gademocrat7 Nov 2019 #23
crickets! So glad you're in here! Good morning! Mersky Nov 2019 #25
I may be new ish to posting here, but Mersky Nov 2019 #22
Thank you lunasun Nov 2019 #8
You are welcome and thanks for adding to the thread for DUers!!! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #11
Adam Schiff has gavelled in and will do his opening statement. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #9
It is on! gademocrat7 Nov 2019 #12
Thank you :-) Upthevibe Nov 2019 #13
I hear ya! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #16
Schiff providing a summary narrative/timeline for the witnesses and prominently mentioning the Ghoul BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #14
The New York Times is providing a live stream of testimony with real-time analysis brooklynite Nov 2019 #15
Hill did not think much of Sondland horning in on Ukraine. crickets Nov 2019 #18
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2019 #19
MOO MOO ALERT - MUTE BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #24
I've gotten to the point where I don't even want bother reading the CC for Nunes' remarks. crickets Nov 2019 #31
Yeah he went back before the "Salem Witch Trials" and went back to the Middle Ages BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #40
Very good! H2O Man Nov 2019 #32
Good grief what a pathological liar gademocrat7 Nov 2019 #33
Nude pics of trump is back OneBlueDotBama Nov 2019 #35
Wait! Seriously? Wawannabe Nov 2019 #120
Nunes seems to enjoy that sort of thing. Turbineguy Nov 2019 #124
All that methane... OneBlueDotBama Nov 2019 #125
for now no hearings tomorrow right? Please Bolton, take this seriously mucifer Nov 2019 #28
Nunes speaking from an alternative universe. madaboutharry Nov 2019 #29
William F. Buckley is spinning in his grave. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #34
OMG back to the "nude photos" of Drumpf BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #30
I can only assume that he is referring to the "pee tapes". Is there anything else? Arkansas Granny Nov 2019 #38
They have been ranting and raving about the "Steele Dossier" BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #42
Their Pronunciation ConstanceCee Nov 2019 #122
Well it's because he's mentally trying to translate his comments from the- BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #123
Thank GOODNESS for mute...you are brave...thanks in advance for asiliveandbreathe Nov 2019 #45
That video of Uptown Cow is a good one to play during his mooing! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #53
I have 3 DU tabs open..one just for the MOO video..... asiliveandbreathe Nov 2019 #57
Bwah! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #59
Apparently there was a prank call a while back where someone offered nude photos of Trump Johonny Nov 2019 #89
MOOnes is an idiot. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #92
Nunes is a fucking tool. TDale313 Nov 2019 #36
OMG! I'm dying! MOOnes is totally copying Schiff's "they got caught" phrase Roland99 Nov 2019 #37
Nunes needs some new material. PA Democrat Nov 2019 #39
Nunes is the perfect echo chamber for Trump. JohnnyLib2 Nov 2019 #41
I am hoping the $63,000 tax payers money junket to Europe is soon asiliveandbreathe Nov 2019 #55
Nunes is completely brainwashed or completely owned. Pitiful. polichick Nov 2019 #43
I was just thinking, Nunes' behavior has gone way past party politics. crickets Nov 2019 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 2019 #56
he is NOT brainwashed. he is part of this mess. I hope it all comes out soon mucifer Nov 2019 #51
Cowpile Nunes moos ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #44
Under more normal H2O Man Nov 2019 #54
we hear the results of bad composting Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #58
Right. H2O Man Nov 2019 #60
Who on God's green earth wants to see a nude Trump? tavernier Nov 2019 #68
Other than Nunes, H2O Man Nov 2019 #77
oh my eyes ! dweller Nov 2019 #116
It's an ugly concept. H2O Man Nov 2019 #118
OMG they are doing big projection of their own behavior re: "conspiracy theories" BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #46
The cow has concluded. Witnesses being introduced and being sworn in. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #47
Schiff didn't give his usual "Thank you ranking member Nunes." mobeau69 Nov 2019 #49
David Holmes - Opening Statement first. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #50
The more we hear about Yovanovitch, the more obvious it is she was very good at her job. crickets Nov 2019 #63
Yeah I just posted what I think may have been going on BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #69
Carousel of his own mooing: Mersky Nov 2019 #52
that makes more sense than when Cowpile Nunes said it! Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #62
Yeah, I decided he needed a translator Mersky Nov 2019 #81
Priceless! Wawannabe Nov 2019 #121
Hi, yeah, cool and thanks! so... Mersky Nov 2019 #126
Holmes is really going through the bullshit that was being alleged about Yovanavich BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #61
What a bunch of slime balls. I feel like taking a shower. catbyte Nov 2019 #64
I know what you mean. crickets Nov 2019 #73
Sounds like I can see what was probably going on BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #65
+1 crickets Nov 2019 #75
Devin Nunes just submitted for the record in today's impeachment hearing the House Intel report... demmiblue Nov 2019 #66
Stone, like Barr, contaminates reality Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #72
local broadcast ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS carrying hearings live Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #67
Good to know! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #74
... Mike 03 Nov 2019 #88
Holmes is describing a finely tuned conspiracy. madaboutharry Nov 2019 #70
Did Holmes just say that Zelensky played President on television? Arkansas Granny Nov 2019 #71
In a comedy show on Ukraine television. madaboutharry Nov 2019 #76
May have missed that but heard him say something that BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #78
oo, good catch, I missed that. crickets Nov 2019 #83
Yes. Zelensky is a comedian. He had no political background. OliverQ Nov 2019 #80
From NYT live analysis.... Roland99 Nov 2019 #79
Thanks... I ran out of free clicks! blaze Nov 2019 #84
They truly are non-partisan professionals who serve their country, not a party, not a person. Arkansas Granny Nov 2019 #85
It's true BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #86
It's true. Contrast w/Sondland's testimony is immediately evident crickets Nov 2019 #97
A great big THANKYOU to BumRushDaShow and Crickets bluestarone Nov 2019 #82
Yes!!! Mike 03 Nov 2019 #91
Callout to Stefanik - shaming her for having visited the training facilities. crickets Nov 2019 #87
she thought the visit was to confirm how important she is Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #106
Here comes the "outdoor" lunch description!! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #90
Reiterating the call comment from Sondland - "President Zelensky loves your ass" BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #94
Ambassador Sondland for you Mr President XRubicon Nov 2019 #95
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL The_Counsel Nov 2019 #119
Think how much time and taxpayer $ has been spent on... polichick Nov 2019 #98
Holmes now mentioning Bolton's frustration with Ghouliani BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #99
My first laugh-out-loud/gasp-out-loud moment of the hearing: Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2019 #100
It does demonstrate how superficial tRump's concerns are. Mike 03 Nov 2019 #103
Wow. He is really laying out the whole thing with the investigations being tied to the funds BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #101
Throwing link to another tab to read later - thanks! nt crickets Nov 2019 #108
Holmes is good. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2019 #102
I'm at work listening, but did I just hear Kardashians mentioned? n/t hibbing Nov 2019 #104
Yes, that is the world we live in. mucifer Nov 2019 #105
speechless hibbing Nov 2019 #107
***IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING NOV 21 THREAD 2*** UP BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #109
Sondland "recommended that the President 'wait until after the sentencing or it will make it worse,' demmiblue Nov 2019 #110
oh no that won't do Kali Nov 2019 #111
Holmes ain't nothing but the man oswaldactedalone Nov 2019 #112
He's doing a great job of laying out the dangers of a reconstituted USSR crickets Nov 2019 #113
As a result of testimony from witnesses it is clear that there are more people who should be in2herbs Nov 2019 #114
The number of immigrants and children of immigrants who are testifying crickets Nov 2019 #115
Thank you for these threads! CrispyQ Nov 2019 #117

BumRushDaShow

(129,069 posts)
4. LOL am watching CSPAN3 as they are letting "the public" come in
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 09:56 AM
Nov 2019

and they look so excited at the chance (after standing in line probably for a long time).

Zoonart

(11,869 posts)
93. Thanks. Bum Rush. For providing this forum to catch up and vent.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:55 AM
Nov 2019

I am away from my studio today... so this is my lifeline.

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
7. Morning.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:06 AM
Nov 2019

BumRush! Congrats on your milestone. Couldn't find the words last night to post - as I was throwing sparks after the debate.

Thank you for being here!

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
22. I may be new ish to posting here, but
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:19 AM
Nov 2019

I've turned to DU for many, many years. I love this forum, and am compelled to try to live up to all it's been for me over the years.

Thank you, BumRush - am learning from ya and I can't explain how much your moo alerts improve my, eh, outlook.

Upthevibe

(8,051 posts)
13. Thank you :-)
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:10 AM
Nov 2019

Last edited Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:20 AM - Edit history (1)

I can only keep an eye on things sporadically because I'm currently substitute teaching and have to wait to check DU on my phone until the kids are at recess and lunch (and if I'm in a class where they are immersed in an project in which case I'm very discreet).

I don't know what I would've done yesterday without DU where I was able to see in real time how things were going.

Thank you again!

crickets

(25,981 posts)
18. Hill did not think much of Sondland horning in on Ukraine.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:14 AM
Nov 2019

Her testimony is going to have a distinct "who does this guy think he is?" vibe.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
31. I've gotten to the point where I don't even want bother reading the CC for Nunes' remarks.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:24 AM
Nov 2019

Especially after his inquisition comment yesterday.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
29. Nunes speaking from an alternative universe.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:23 AM
Nov 2019

Listen to Nunes. This is what it was like to listen to the news in the Soviet Union. This is the kind of government the republicans want to bring to America.

They make me sick.

BumRushDaShow

(129,069 posts)
42. They have been ranting and raving about the "Steele Dossier"
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:27 AM
Nov 2019

quite a bit during these hearings as part of their "defense".

ConstanceCee

(314 posts)
122. Their Pronunciation
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 12:28 PM
Nov 2019

Nunes (and other Repugs) constantly pronounce this "Still". Nunes also can't pronounce "caught" (cot). Just ranting.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
45. Thank GOODNESS for mute...you are brave...thanks in advance for
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:28 AM
Nov 2019

caring for DU with this impeachment thread..

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
89. Apparently there was a prank call a while back where someone offered nude photos of Trump
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:54 AM
Nov 2019

Schiff's office naturally suspected it was a prank call and did not take any action.

For Nunes, this is somehow evidence that Schiff wanted them. From this we can assume Nunes has given lots of money to Nigerian prince's etc...



Roland99

(53,342 posts)
37. OMG! I'm dying! MOOnes is totally copying Schiff's "they got caught" phrase
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:25 AM
Nov 2019

and using it in a series of unending lies and disinformation and propaganda.

he's claiming dems got caught trying to get naked photos of trump from russian pranksters.


Nunes is acting like none of the testimony yesterday occurred...repeating the lie that Zelensky didn't know about the hold on aid by time of the call of the 25th when we know that's a lie now!

JohnnyLib2

(11,212 posts)
41. Nunes is the perfect echo chamber for Trump.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:26 AM
Nov 2019


I've begun to wonder who is leading whom. He deserves infamy for his part in this period.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
55. I am hoping the $63,000 tax payers money junket to Europe is soon
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:32 AM
Nov 2019

at the top of ALL news outlets...perhaps Parnas, who was on that junket, will fill us in...

crickets

(25,981 posts)
48. I was just thinking, Nunes' behavior has gone way past party politics.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:30 AM
Nov 2019

There is a huge pile of dirty laundry or a huge pile of $$ involved. Or both.

Response to crickets (Reply #48)

H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
54. Under more normal
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:32 AM
Nov 2019

circumstances, I'd be thinking about why Nunes is so focused on nude photos of Trump. I'm sure that in a staff meeting at the mental health clinic where I worked, we'd have had some great laughs about this. But I am past finding anything about Nunes funny. He is such a "cowpile."

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
58. we hear the results of bad composting
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:36 AM
Nov 2019

When manure is piled high enough, without proper mixing, it undergoes anaerobic decomposition which results in overheating and foul gaseous emissions. Hence, Nunes.

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
68. Who on God's green earth wants to see a nude Trump?
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:42 AM
Nov 2019

Not even his cultists want that.

That man makes no sense.

H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
77. Other than Nunes,
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:46 AM
Nov 2019

I can't think of anyone. Ever. Under any circumstances.

Yet poor Devin is still searching for them. Perhaps some talented DU artist could draw one, which we could all print off to mail to Nunes' office? Would that shut him up for longer than it takes him to beat off?

crickets

(25,981 posts)
63. The more we hear about Yovanovitch, the more obvious it is she was very good at her job.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:38 AM
Nov 2019

The level of political attacks against her (aside from Trump) sound like they've been downplayed up to now.

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
52. Carousel of his own mooing:
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:31 AM
Nov 2019

Robust more than Humvees, drones, and battalions, javelins Obama boo moo hurling got caught project got caught farce whistleblower got caught dossier bounces off me and sticks to moo transcript leaks caught nude photos (really? no, pee tapes)... Democrats pitiful legacy got caught aid to negotiations tRump is trustworthy kangaroo court damage long lasting wrenching attempt with sublter pinstripes hope Democrats can heal wounds shaken Russian hoax Ukrainian sequal

Procedure jargon I'm moo smart. Moo report He’s still mooing..

Take meddling seriously moo lalala moo

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
81. Yeah, I decided he needed a translator
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:49 AM
Nov 2019

Last edited Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:33 PM - Edit history (1)

He’s so hard to listen to, but I have an ear for cow. I was country before I was city, and learned Simmental as a kid, which is close enough to Holstein.

Cows are not known for their logic, it's just the keywords that matter.

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
126. Hi, yeah, cool and thanks! so...
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:42 PM
Nov 2019

His 'arguments' are hardly worth repeating. In jotting down one of his tirades idk, last week, it looked like a word map of talking points cud. I found it, eh, therapeutic and am compelled to share.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
73. I know what you mean.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:44 AM
Nov 2019

I am relieved to be listening to career State Dept and Defense Dept members today rather than political appointees. One day of Sondland's self-serving testimony was enough.

BumRushDaShow

(129,069 posts)
65. Sounds like I can see what was probably going on
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:41 AM
Nov 2019

I expect under Obama, they were riding Ukraine's ass and their corrupt prosecutors (and we know their previous President eventually fled to Russia - remember reading that in the news). So this was apparently some retribution once Drumpf got in and they were all taking advantage of it.

demmiblue

(36,860 posts)
66. Devin Nunes just submitted for the record in today's impeachment hearing the House Intel report...
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:41 AM
Nov 2019
Devin Nunes just submitted for the record in today's impeachment hearing the House Intel report on Russian interference.

But DOJ prosecutors in DC federal court last week said the report is "not accurate" because Roger Stone lied under oath & witness tampered. @CourthouseNews


BumRushDaShow

(129,069 posts)
74. Good to know!
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:45 AM
Nov 2019

Wasn't sure how long they would do it - especially PBS that claimed it would only show it through their "alternate" channels & streaming.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
70. Holmes is describing a finely tuned conspiracy.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:42 AM
Nov 2019

It is so much worse than we could have imagined.

I feel sick.

BumRushDaShow

(129,069 posts)
78. May have missed that but heard him say something that
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:48 AM
Nov 2019

someone (among the Ukrainians) had mentioned that Ghouliani had represented himself as an advisor to the "Vice President" (and confirmed that with the closed-caption too).

(that would be interesting if true)

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
80. Yes. Zelensky is a comedian. He had no political background.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:49 AM
Nov 2019

He played President in a comedy show in Ukraine.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
79. From NYT live analysis....
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:48 AM
Nov 2019
Nicholas FandosCongressional Correspondent
Listening to Holmes after Sondland’s testimony really underscores how much more detail-oriented trained career American diplomats are than political appointees. I am sure there are exceptions. But people like Holmes, Bill Taylor, Marie Yovanovitch and others just seem to have dotted every I and crossed every T.

BumRushDaShow

(129,069 posts)
86. It's true
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:51 AM
Nov 2019

(as a retired fed)

The lower level people who move up the chain learn to get all the detailed stuff compiled and are told to then "distill it down" to "Executive Summaries", and finally take those destined for the very highest levels - and distill them down to what they dub "1-pagers".

crickets

(25,981 posts)
97. It's true. Contrast w/Sondland's testimony is immediately evident
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:58 AM
Nov 2019

in terms of precision and in content - I don't think Sondland is going to come out unbloodied today.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
87. Callout to Stefanik - shaming her for having visited the training facilities.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:52 AM
Nov 2019

She has no excuse for not realizing how much Ukraine needed the aid. Burn.

The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
119. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:37 AM
Nov 2019

That's what both Trump and Sondland SHOULD have done the past three years, but they were too chummy to care.

And where the hell was the Secret Service on this? Didn't they house Obama's BlackBerry the day he was inaugurated? You mean we DIDN'T have to be subjected to the disaster known as Dolt45's Twitter account all this time???

BumRushDaShow

(129,069 posts)
99. Holmes now mentioning Bolton's frustration with Ghouliani
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:00 AM
Nov 2019

as well as Sondland's "expansive interpretation of his mandate".

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
100. My first laugh-out-loud/gasp-out-loud moment of the hearing:
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:01 AM
Nov 2019

Holmes' recollection of Trump's charade of the A$AP Rocky situation in Sweden.

Not really relevant, other than it proves it was a pathetic attempt by Trump to pander to the black community, that no one ever bought.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
103. It does demonstrate how superficial tRump's concerns are.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:04 AM
Nov 2019

He has all the wrong priorities. The world's on fire, and these are his primary worries.

BumRushDaShow

(129,069 posts)
101. Wow. He is really laying out the whole thing with the investigations being tied to the funds
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:02 AM
Nov 2019


And he mentions Fareed's upcoming interview with Zelensky that was later cancelled (and I saw where Fareed zakaria had tweeted about his side of what happened).



TEXT
Fareed Zakaria

@FareedZakaria

The @nytimes has reported that Ukrainian Pres. Zelensky was set to make a public announcement of the investigations sought by Pres. Trump on my @CNN program. So, I think I owe viewers my best understanding of what actually happened.

My take:
Embedded video
8,679
10:01 AM - Nov 17, 2019


https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/07/politics/volodymyr-zelensky-fareed-zakaria-ukraine-aid/index.html

demmiblue

(36,860 posts)
110. Sondland "recommended that the President 'wait until after the sentencing or it will make it worse,'
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:09 AM
Nov 2019
Sondland "recommended that the President 'wait until after the sentencing or it will make it worse,' adding that the President should 'let him get sentenced, play the racism card, give him a ticker-tape when he comes home...you can tell the Kardashians you tried.'" - Holmes


crickets

(25,981 posts)
113. He's doing a great job of laying out the dangers of a reconstituted USSR
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:10 AM
Nov 2019

and how we really need to support Ukraine in order to prevent that - for them and for our national security.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
114. As a result of testimony from witnesses it is clear that there are more people who should be
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:14 AM
Nov 2019

deposed leaving one to conclude that the impeachment hearing should not end. On that note, would it be possible for the impeachment committee to declare that the hearings will continue after the courts have rendered their decisions regarding whether or not certain witnesses can ignore subpoenaes?

crickets

(25,981 posts)
115. The number of immigrants and children of immigrants who are testifying
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:19 AM
Nov 2019

underline how much we benefit from the talents of those who decide to come here from other countries. It really points out how the political fear mongering surrounding immigration actively hurts the country.

Also, go Fiona Hill for the tongue lashing she's giving them over the 2016 election conspiracy theories, shaming them over using domestic politics that harm national security.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
117. Thank you for these threads!
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:31 AM
Nov 2019

My husband & I read through all of them from Tuesday & Wednesday. It's a nice overview of everything that was said. Thank you!

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