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We've seen this here on DU in recent days with some of the articles and "studies" being posted. The following comments and links are from Natural News:
The mainstream media is currently waging a psyop campaign to try to discredit organic foods (and shove GMOs down everybody's throats). It is the most bold -- and most dishonest -- health disinfo campaign the media has ever conspired to launch. (NaturalNews) If you read the mainstream news headlines today, you might be shocked to see headlines that say things like, "Organic foods no healthier than conventional foods" or "Organic foods may not be healthier for you." You'll see these headlines all across the usual disinfo outlets: NPR, Associated Press, Reuters, Washington Post, WebMD and elsewhere.
The problem with these headlines is that they are flatly false. The study these news outlets are quoting actually confirms that organic foods are far healthier for you than conventional foods. So how is the mainstream media lying about this? By fudging the facts, of course.
For starters, the "study" isn't even a study. It was just a review of other studies. No new laboratory analysis was done whatsoever!
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/037065_organic_foods_mainstream_media_psyop.html#ixzz25bb0YJoWhttp://www.naturalnews.com/037065_organic_foods_mainstream_media_psyop.html
Also in Natural News:
The CDC has the entire nation in a state of total paranoia over West Nile virus, and now Manhattan is about to be sprayed with toxic chemicals:
http://www.naturalnews.com/037078_Manhattan_West_Nile_chemical_spraying.html
Proposition 37 promises to require GMOs to be labeled on foods. The "No on 37" campaign is exposed as a complete fraud:
http://www.naturalnews.com/037077_Proposition_37_GMO_labeling_California.html
ananda
(28,876 posts)nt
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)Organic foods have never held the claim that they contain more nutrients than foods sprayed down with fungicides and insecticides. In fact, this study, or amalgam of studies, actually showed that the non-organics had MORE insecticides and compounds in them.
So the study actually does say that organic foods are better, in the way they are supposed to be better. They have less chemicals sprayed on them. I remember them saying yesterday that "It'll take years to find out if these pesticides actually hurt anyone." Now that was biased, and I might add rolling the dice. In fact, it's my theory that a lot of cancers you see out there are caused by ingestion of just this kind of thing earlier in life. But it's just a theory, what I think is a very reasonable one.
That said, as a gardener it's ridiculously hard in the South to grow stuff that doesn't get consumed by bugs. So it's certainly best to follow instructions and observe the IBH (interval before harvest) times on chemicals you spray onto products, and if you grow your own, you can make sure and wait to harvest a few days past that. Some is immediate, and sometimes it's 7 days. And wash with a little dish soap, and rinse well, even bagged, pre-chopped stuff, even organic stuff. Chemicals aren't the only things that can make you ill in food.
Cha
(297,692 posts)thought.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)or at a minimum less likely to give you a toxic dose of pesticides.
Where are they going with this attack?
In some ways it relieves guilt for families that can't afford organic
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Pesticides, GMOs, antibiotics...
That's the real reason
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)but yes it was probably exaggerated previously.
It's hard to believe superior quality produce doesn't give one's body more in terms of assimilation
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Could prevent your body from absorbing all nutrients...
But to me the study is like saying "cars don't fly - so the claims of automobile superiority to horses are wrong"
Rambis
(7,774 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)This thread is proof that it isn't just the Right to is science-challenged.
The "Organic Food" movement is just consumerist BS that allows well-off Latte Liberal yuppies to feel they are doing something good for the environment, meanwhile CO2 levels keep on rising.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)Supporting small, local farmers who grow organic is BAD !
Natural Foods are BAD FOR YOU !
Vegans hate the world !
Everybody who eats healthy food is a "latte liberal" !
Anything else you'd like to add? Because I'm unemployed and far from well-off, so I'm really enjoying the labeling.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Ditto with most working class people. I have $35 a week to spend on groceries.
The only organic stuff that I have found to be affordable on my tight budget is Amy's soup.
jsr
(7,712 posts)Besides, they don't have the requisite connoisseurship to appreciate the superior taste of organic wheat and organic bananas. Heck, I don't.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)"The food is terrible, and such small portions."
Cha
(297,692 posts)eating organic food since the 70s and I'm now retired from working for years in natural food co-ops. Living on Social Security and still eating organic food! It's worth it to me not packing in those poisons in my body day after day year after year..decade after decade.
I've also worked on organic farms and have friends through out the country who work hard in nourishing our soil and our Planet.
So glad the First Lady Michelle understands this..
Edit.. Wanted to ad that the job I retired from was a non profit Community Co-op so seniors on fixed incomes could afford it too. We had organic farmers working there who brought the best stuff in to sell during season! Yumm!
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)this thread isn't "proof" of anything and attacking the speaker is a logical fallacy so perhaps you are science-challenged.
Organic has nothing to do with CO2 levels and sales of organics grew 12% last year. WalMart sells organics.
If you consider Round-Up to be salad dressing have at it.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)tasting crap'. He used old fashioned natural growing methods, what is now called organic but he just called farming methods as his farm life predated all the chemicals and pesticides. Of course he saved much money growing our own food, but that was beside the point as he could afford what he wanted and what he wanted was not available on the market for any price at that time. To get a 'real' tomato, he had to grow one, so he did.
Organic methods of growing are the historic norms of agriculture, the 'movement' in our lifetimes has been toward industrial growing methods and the use of lots of chemicals and hormones and pesticides. The unnatural farming movement is all about profit, not at all about quality or excellence. In our lifetimes, that has been the main change, from long proven methods to new, factory type methods. What is 'new' is the factory methods, the chemicals, the Round Up ready. That's the movement, and it is not toward the good for anyone but those who profit from it.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)"industry". Well done.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)What I don't like it that it has become associated with Luddite romantics who want to go backward to a more primitive style of agriculture that cannot feed the word's population, instead of working on ways to ADVANCE BEYOND the need for pesticides. But that will require the use of genetic engineering which has gotten a bad rap because of companies like Monsanto who abuse the technology to help sell more pesticide rather than creating crops that do not need to be sprayed with that nasty crap.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)This is the same site that says Homeopathy works, right?
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)They are just like Creationists, Global Warming Deniers, 9/11 Truthers, and Birthers they believe what they WANT to believe, and dismiss all evidence as a conspiracy against them.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)ORGANIC FOODS ARE BUNK article. I forgot.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)You must have me confused with someone else.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Most from local producers. My biggest issue is GMOs.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)I simply want food and beverage free from added toxins, herbicides, pesticides, high-fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, added sodium, GMOs, artificial colorings and flavorings, and so on. Crappy food is often "enhanced" with nutrients to make them more marketable.
I have half a mind to write a letter to the editor explaining why I prefer organic food. I might write something like, "I could pump vitamin C into horse manure and claim it contained more of that nutrient than an organic orange. But would you eat it?"
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...you know, so it doesn't fucking kill you..
When I saw this yesterday I just KNEW that our crack M$M would take them to task and correct the erroneous framing
This HAS to be sponsored by Monsanto who, i believe, is the most evil corporation on the planet..
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)any of a dozen other food documentaries, it's really most likely. The demand for Local, Non-GMO, organic, is skyrocketing. A quick Google search will bring up a dozen articles like that.
So they must. regain. control.
Resistance is futile.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...and Monsanto is rotten to its' core..
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)The whole organic food movement isn't about nutrition.
It's about people trying to take some control of their food supply. People want to have a voice in the way food is produced and where it comes from.
I think "organic" has really been hijacked as a marketing term.
What people really want is for health and sustainability to be primary considerations in food production and marketing, instead of just the profits of the big food companies.
The organic movement (or marketing ploy) is really a stand-in for those other issues that for some reason haven't been clearly expressed in the political system.
Bake
(21,977 posts)If you want to eat organic, fine, go ahead.
But it's not a litmus test. Some of us can't afford organic.
Bake
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)I believe they said the review simply stated that no long term studies on the health benefits of organic foods have been conducted, so no conclusion on its health benefits can be made. Not exactly sure how the review is "flawed" as the article claims, as the article itself doesn't really specify, and even goes on to use data from the review of studies itself to support its conclusion that organic foods are better for you.
EDIT: Wow, just reading a few more of the articles written by the same guy. Seems to be just a tad "out there" to say the least. I think as a government employee, I loved his article about "Zombified government workers" the most. lol
EDIT 2: AND the guy is an anti-vaxer?? Oh yeah, his credibility level just went into the negative now.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...brought to you by your friends at MONSANTO and CARGILL.
I rarely accept any so-called ''study'' put out by universities and authorized agencies these days because the colleges are bought and paid-for and the government agencies (I'm looking at you FDA!) like the whole fucking system -- is corrupt as hell.
- Always checked your sources for corporate cooties, I always say......
K&R