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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:10 PM Dec 2019

Ruth Marcus To GOP: If Trump Scandal Doesn't Meet 'The Framers' Conception Of Bribery, What Does?'

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/12/ruth-marcus-republicans-if-trump-scandal


12/01/19 10:01am
Ruth Marcus To GOP: If Trump Scandal Doesn't Meet 'The Framers' Conception Of Bribery, What Does?'
Longtime columnist Ruth Marcus on Sunday dared Republican lawmakers to argue that President Donald Trump did not "bribe" Ukraine as the term was defined by the Framers of the U.S. Constitution.
By David
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Longtime columnist Ruth Marcus on Sunday dared Republican lawmakers to argue that President Donald Trump did not "bribe" Ukraine as the term was defined by the Framers of the U.S. Constitution.

Marcus was joined on CBS's Face the Nation by veteran reporters and presidential historians.

Host John Dickerson noted that the impeachment debate touched on "bedrock American values."

Historian Jon Meachum explained that the Framers of the Constitution expected future Americans to "screw everything up."

"And we've done everything we can since then to prove them right," he said. "Therefore, sovereignty had to be divided. Power cannot be given to one person in the republican -- lowercase 'r' -- contract. Impeachment was a very important element there."


According to Meachum, the central question is whether House lawmakers "are going to follow the facts or are they... going to reflexively be partisan and interpret reality, not as they see it, but as they wish to see it."

Dickerson noted that Marcus is an expert on so-called originalism, the idea that the Constitution's meaning does not change with the culture. It is an idea that is popular with many conservatives.

"It is really a political question that is up to the political branch," she remarked. "But, yes, the Framers were entirely worried about precisely the kind of event we're talking about here, foreign influence, the misuse of presidential power for public gain and political advantage -- rather than for the public good."

"The question I would have for Republicans," Marcus continued, "if this doesn't not rise to the level of a high crime or misdemeanor or look a lot like the Framers' conception of bribery, what does?"


Marcus argued that House Democrats were "constitutionally obliged" to open an impeachment investigation because the facts demanded it.
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Ruth Marcus To GOP: If Trump Scandal Doesn't Meet 'The Framers' Conception Of Bribery, What Does?' (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2019 OP
k&r Demovictory9 Dec 2019 #1
I asked the same thing an hour earlier malaise Dec 2019 #2
So she stole from you! babylonsister Dec 2019 #6
I doubt that - we're all asking the same logical question malaise Dec 2019 #7
Amen!!! spanone Dec 2019 #3
there is such a thing as duty Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #4
Trump will not stop. He only cares about himself. Period! UCmeNdc Dec 2019 #5
Definition of bribery in the federal statutes Poiuyt Dec 2019 #8
Getting your dick sucked in a room off the Oval Office. Apparently that's a high crime! eom She_Totally_Gets_It Dec 2019 #9
Hunter Biden's job. Your corruption is my smart deal. nolabear Dec 2019 #10

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
5. Trump will not stop. He only cares about himself. Period!
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 06:04 PM
Dec 2019

If Trump is not contained he will use the institutions to cheat during the 2020 elections. Trump cannot help it. Trump is a cheater and win at all costs type of person.

Poiuyt

(18,125 posts)
8. Definition of bribery in the federal statutes
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 06:10 PM
Dec 2019

“Whoever ... being a public official … directly or indirectly, corruptly demands, seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value personally ... in return for ... being influenced in the performance of any official act” has committed the offense.

That seems to fit what trump did to a t.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
10. Hunter Biden's job. Your corruption is my smart deal.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 07:32 PM
Dec 2019

That’s all they see. Is it useful to the cause/cult?

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