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UTUSN

(70,715 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 08:01 PM Dec 2019

Opinion writer lures with comparison to Weimar, but full of Both-Siderism & misleading writing

Both Sides: This writer sets up every opportunity to hint at SHITLER and his Deplorables being parallel to the rise of Hitler, but backs off every time, besides doing the Equivalency thing making us Lefties sound just as bad.

Poor writing: There's a difference between rich writing that evokes layers of possible meanings and writing that is not precise in saying what is meant. For example, here he says SHITLER, "identifies those who oppose him, like the media, as 'enemies of the people.' ” Is this writer really saying that the media *opposes* him by documenting warts-and-all?

I was drawn to this item's premise/title, but got less so in getting deeper into it, fwiw.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/is-america-about-to-suffer-its-weimar-moment?ref=home

Is America About to Suffer Its Weimar Moment?
DEJA VU
As happened in Germany, we are seeing the collapse of any set of common beliefs among Americans.

Joel Kotkin
.... Under these circumstances, it’s not surprising that respect for the basic folk ways of our republic has disappeared, even at the highest levels of society. President Trump, with his all-too-evident lack of knowledge of how the system works, is a classic authoritarian personality who identifies those who oppose him, like the media, as "enemies of the people.” Some fear that Trump is weaponizing the courts to go after opponents in the bureaucracy and the military, just as Hitler and other dictators once did.

But if Trump is nauseating and dangerous, so too are his critics. From the moment of his election, a large part of the entrenched establishment—in the military, the court systems, the FBI and CIA as well as large parts of the old GOP establishment—have sought to violate their oaths so they can undermine his rule. Even the foreign policy establishment has been weaponized against the current administration to wage “war by other means” against a sitting President. ....

City College Distinguished Professor of History Eric Weitz has described the “proletarianization of the middle class” as one of the precipitating causes of the rise of the Nazis. Germany’s middle ranks were pummeled first by the great inflation of the early 1920s that undermined savings and bankrupted many small businesses. Even during the recovery of the mid-1920s, many felt threatened by large corporations, chain stores and an increasingly militant working class. When the Great Depression hit, many feared that they would soon join the property-less proletariat. ....

A progressive win next year, carrying with it economic and environmental policies that might devastate the country’s heartland, would accentuate the paranoia and even militarization among the Trump base. They may well see an unsuccessful election, set amidst a totally partisan impeachment, as part of a relentless attempt to overthrow the results of the 2016 contest. They would resent progressive moves to ban fracking that would cause enormous economic pain in places like Texas (where the practice has produced as many as 1 million well-paid jobs), West Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and North Dakota. ....

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Opinion writer lures with comparison to Weimar, but full of Both-Siderism & misleading writing (Original Post) UTUSN Dec 2019 OP
"...undermine his rule." RULE?!??!!! scarletwoman Jan 2020 #1
Yip. UTUSN Jan 2020 #2
That is where I stopped too Takket Jan 2020 #6
Was hard to take last evening Mersky Jan 2020 #3
Sounds like a Trump supporter trying to disguise himself as being fair and balanced Kaleva Jan 2020 #4
Trump is openly, urgently & happily corrupt through & through. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #5

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
1. "...undermine his rule." RULE?!??!!!
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 12:05 AM
Jan 2020

Sorry, I don't have to read any more than that to know this writer is full of shit.

But if Trump is nauseating and dangerous, so too are his critics. From the moment of his election, a large part of the entrenched establishment—in the military, the court systems, the FBI and CIA as well as large parts of the old GOP establishment—have sought to violate their oaths so they can undermine his rule.

Takket

(21,582 posts)
6. That is where I stopped too
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:37 AM
Jan 2020

A watchdog report was just issued saying that NEVER happened. This article may as well have been written by Putin.

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
3. Was hard to take last evening
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 06:46 AM
Jan 2020

The evening before the new year, that is - I didn’t have time to process.

I find the language of the op dangerous. I’m glad you posted it.

I’ll have thoughts on this, later. Am journaling.

Kaleva

(36,315 posts)
4. Sounds like a Trump supporter trying to disguise himself as being fair and balanced
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 06:57 AM
Jan 2020

From the article:

"have sought to violate their oaths so they can undermine his rule."

You see this sentiment expressed in FR often.

 

BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
5. Trump is openly, urgently & happily corrupt through & through.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 07:00 AM
Jan 2020

The author can't bring himself to do anything but excuse that corruption and treat it as normal.

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