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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:00 AM Jan 2020

USA Today: Inside the US military's raid against its own security guards

I can't imagine why folks might not like the United States very much. USA Today has been working on stories about G4S, the largest private security firm in the world. It's a long, in-depth article and the reporters have done a lot of work piecing together the details of what our star-spangled military personnel did in 2008 to a small village called Azizabad:

Inside the US military's raid

AZIZABAD, Afghanistan – Once the Americans left, the survivors started digging.

There were too many dead and not enough shovels, so a local politician brought in heavy machinery from a nearby construction site. He dug graves deep enough to fit mothers with children, or children with children. Some were still in their pajamas, their hands inked with henna tattoos from the party preparations the night before.

Villagers picked through the rubble of what had been an entire neighborhood, looking for remains to wrap in white linens for burial. A boy clutching a torn rug walked in a daze on top of the ruins. A young man collapsed in grief by a pile of mud bricks where his home once stood – where his wife and four children had been sleeping inside.

The local doctor recorded a cellphone video to document the dead faces, freckled with shrapnel and blood, coated with dust and debris. Some were Afghan men of fighting age, but most – dozens of them – were women and children. Taza was 3 years old. Maida was 2. Zia, 1.


Sorry to anyone who's New Year's Day I ruined by posting this.
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USA Today: Inside the US military's raid against its own security guards (Original Post) gratuitous Jan 2020 OP
This barbarity never stops. lpbk2713 Jan 2020 #1
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2020 #2
Don't apologize, you're a messenger with a message we need to hear. abqtommy Jan 2020 #3
In past attacks, this would have been... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #4
More from your link UpInArms Jan 2020 #5
Join the line malaise Jan 2020 #6
Shoulder to shoulder UpInArms Jan 2020 #8
Alarming article. Chilling and uncomfortable. Thanks gratuitous for the posting. Firestorm49 Jan 2020 #7
This is from 2008? braddy Jan 2020 #9
Yes, the attack occurred in 2008 gratuitous Jan 2020 #11
we are and have llashram Jan 2020 #10
The only sorrow is denying the realization that all the atrocities Prosper Jan 2020 #12

lpbk2713

(42,763 posts)
1. This barbarity never stops.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:08 AM
Jan 2020



No need to apologize just because it is a special day for the rest of the world.

getagrip_already

(14,784 posts)
4. In past attacks, this would have been...
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jan 2020

Either a targeting error or collateral damage. The military wouldn't target civilians intentionally unless no other option existed.

But under trump, civilians are primary targets. He has said as much. The families need to die he said.

Well, the families are dying. This is war crime territory. Any military leader obeying such an order is guilty of mass murder. Yes, wars are ugly. Yes, in WWII entire cities were fire bombed. Intentionally. But that is why treaties and international laws were passed.

This is a horrifying change in policy. Welcome to the new reich.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
5. More from your link
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jan 2020

Last edited Wed Jan 1, 2020, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Much about the mission in Azizabad remains in dispute, but this much is clear: The architects behind this corner of the war – and those profiting from the security contract – did not understand the difference between who they were supposed to be fighting, employing and protecting.

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Yet in the aftermath of the Azizabad raid, records show, military leaders sought to present an image of success and mask evidence of a civilian casualty disaster. The false version of events was amplified by Oliver North – a former Marine commander and a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal of the late 1980s – who was embedded as a Fox News contributor with the forces conducting the raid. North’s segment, which presents the mission as a success and the Taliban commander “confirmed dead,” is still available on the Fox News website.



Eta ...

But there were no congressional hearings or public reckoning. G4S, ArmorGroup’s parent company, was only mentioned in a footnote in the Senate report. The company has collected more than $6 billion from taxpayers through federal contracts since 2005, according to government data.



I hate hate hate these people.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
8. Shoulder to shoulder
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jan 2020

The line stands together ... as one ... someday, I hope, there will be justice for these monsters

Firestorm49

(4,036 posts)
7. Alarming article. Chilling and uncomfortable. Thanks gratuitous for the posting.
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jan 2020

Rule #1: Never believe anything until it is officially denied.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Yes, the attack occurred in 2008
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jan 2020

But the folks at USA Today are only now getting some of the real story, rather than the rose-colored "official" story. I think my favorite (sic) bit is how Oliver North was embedded with the military at the time, and filed a story about the raid that was a crock of shit but pleasing to the military and the Bush administration. The reporters contacted Fox about North's cock-and-bull account (which is still on their website), and Fox advised them to talk to North directly, as he didn't work for Fox anymore (!).

llashram

(6,265 posts)
10. we are and have
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jan 2020

created so many more enemies. And with children such as these victims, the enmity shall be here against us for generations.

Prosper

(761 posts)
12. The only sorrow is denying the realization that all the atrocities
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 04:26 PM
Jan 2020

get started from “Sovereingty” and “National Interest” and “Selfishness”. How is early death and suffering absolved by too expensive to correct? Can’t afford Medicare for All? Rationalizing too expensive wears away human rights. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness should have a universal application beyond affordability. Annihilation is not a solution to social problems.

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