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I can't imagine why folks might not like the United States very much. USA Today has been working on stories about G4S, the largest private security firm in the world. It's a long, in-depth article and the reporters have done a lot of work piecing together the details of what our star-spangled military personnel did in 2008 to a small village called Azizabad:
Inside the US military's raid
There were too many dead and not enough shovels, so a local politician brought in heavy machinery from a nearby construction site. He dug graves deep enough to fit mothers with children, or children with children. Some were still in their pajamas, their hands inked with henna tattoos from the party preparations the night before.
Villagers picked through the rubble of what had been an entire neighborhood, looking for remains to wrap in white linens for burial. A boy clutching a torn rug walked in a daze on top of the ruins. A young man collapsed in grief by a pile of mud bricks where his home once stood where his wife and four children had been sleeping inside.
The local doctor recorded a cellphone video to document the dead faces, freckled with shrapnel and blood, coated with dust and debris. Some were Afghan men of fighting age, but most dozens of them were women and children. Taza was 3 years old. Maida was 2. Zia, 1.
Sorry to anyone who's New Year's Day I ruined by posting this.
lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)No need to apologize just because it is a special day for the rest of the world.
tblue37
(65,444 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)getagrip_already
(14,784 posts)Either a targeting error or collateral damage. The military wouldn't target civilians intentionally unless no other option existed.
But under trump, civilians are primary targets. He has said as much. The families need to die he said.
Well, the families are dying. This is war crime territory. Any military leader obeying such an order is guilty of mass murder. Yes, wars are ugly. Yes, in WWII entire cities were fire bombed. Intentionally. But that is why treaties and international laws were passed.
This is a horrifying change in policy. Welcome to the new reich.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 1, 2020, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)
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Yet in the aftermath of the Azizabad raid, records show, military leaders sought to present an image of success and mask evidence of a civilian casualty disaster. The false version of events was amplified by Oliver North a former Marine commander and a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal of the late 1980s who was embedded as a Fox News contributor with the forces conducting the raid. Norths segment, which presents the mission as a success and the Taliban commander confirmed dead, is still available on the Fox News website.
Eta ...
I hate hate hate these people.
malaise
(269,094 posts)These are monsters
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)The line stands together ... as one ... someday, I hope, there will be justice for these monsters
Firestorm49
(4,036 posts)Rule #1: Never believe anything until it is officially denied.
braddy
(3,585 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But the folks at USA Today are only now getting some of the real story, rather than the rose-colored "official" story. I think my favorite (sic) bit is how Oliver North was embedded with the military at the time, and filed a story about the raid that was a crock of shit but pleasing to the military and the Bush administration. The reporters contacted Fox about North's cock-and-bull account (which is still on their website), and Fox advised them to talk to North directly, as he didn't work for Fox anymore (!).
llashram
(6,265 posts)created so many more enemies. And with children such as these victims, the enmity shall be here against us for generations.
Prosper
(761 posts)get started from Sovereingty and National Interest and Selfishness. How is early death and suffering absolved by too expensive to correct? Cant afford Medicare for All? Rationalizing too expensive wears away human rights. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness should have a universal application beyond affordability. Annihilation is not a solution to social problems.