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Amazon Prime sucks (Original Post) brokephibroke Jan 2020 OP
They've never been late for me but once. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #1
I get that they are transitioning from common carriers brokephibroke Jan 2020 #3
No, it does not. Usually early for me. I suggest you drop it immediately. nt USALiberal Jan 2020 #2
And give up The Expanse? brokephibroke Jan 2020 #4
Beltalowda! cagefreesoylentgreen Jan 2020 #44
Sniff, sniff. Do I smell some self-serving advice? Blue_true Jan 2020 #7
If they are developing their own delivery company and bypassing UPS and USPS then that Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #5
That is exactly what they are doing. brokephibroke Jan 2020 #6
Damn, I knew Amazon would maximize profits NO MATTER who it hurt and it will hurt Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #8
I think that they are using the USPS for certain classes of deliveries. Blue_true Jan 2020 #9
Now, but it sounds like they are looking to become the USPS of Amazon with Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #11
You could be right. But to me, it seems that they see advantage in using the USPS Blue_true Jan 2020 #19
You don't have Amazon Prime? PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #52
For the stuff I buy? Blue_true Jan 2020 #61
Thank you for that information. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #62
Yes Joinfortmill Jan 2020 #25
I use several companies that sell through Amazon and sell direct. Blue_true Jan 2020 #28
For me, packages from Amazon through USPS often don't arrive csziggy Jan 2020 #36
It is my understanding that Amazon... TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #22
It looks like Amazon and it's delivery companies have reached some type of scheme. Blue_true Jan 2020 #30
That is what they are doing. Trump tried to get post office to raise rates for Amazon helpisontheway Jan 2020 #59
Said they were coming Thursday RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #10
Get that $5 certificate brokephibroke Jan 2020 #12
They came 2 days early RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #13
LOL, send them a tip brokephibroke Jan 2020 #15
I mean, if a guitar cable is common.... RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #17
Lots of rock n rollers by you I guess. brokephibroke Jan 2020 #18
They actually are quick on the more popular mandolin and banjo strings. Hoyt Jan 2020 #31
Amazon delivered a very uncommon reagent to me is about 5 days, Blue_true Jan 2020 #20
Free 2 day delivery! small print: it ships in a week XRubicon Jan 2020 #14
I have never waited a week for a package that Amazon delivers. Blue_true Jan 2020 #21
Wat are you talking about? It usually ships in a few hours and arrives in two days. Dream Girl Jan 2020 #26
+1. A lot of stuff is one day, and for awhile they had same day shipping for some items. Hoyt Jan 2020 #32
That literally never happened to you, ever obamanut2012 Jan 2020 #39
. XRubicon Jan 2020 #41
Not true, at least in my experience. cwydro Jan 2020 #46
literally my last order, see . post above XRubicon Jan 2020 #47
They are such a wonderful employer. Not. nt essme Jan 2020 #16
+1 XRubicon Jan 2020 #45
I frequently get things early. Tipperary Jan 2020 #23
All my Amazon deliveries are with shiny new Amazon vans OKNancy Jan 2020 #24
No, actually it's brilliant. Liberal In Texas Jan 2020 #27
The Expanse is great brokephibroke Jan 2020 #29
It's become a bureaucracy and probably fragmented because of the reach. Liberal In Texas Jan 2020 #33
Support your favorite monopoly? delisen Jan 2020 #51
No it doesn't BlueSpot Jan 2020 #34
You are right brokephibroke Jan 2020 #35
It's mainly worth it for the streaming video Rstrstx Jan 2020 #37
It doesn't suck, and I get my stuff quicker now than before obamanut2012 Jan 2020 #38
Depends on your zip code obviously. brokephibroke Jan 2020 #42
I assume the closer you are to a fulfillment warehouse the better... EX500rider Jan 2020 #49
It's great Shrek Jan 2020 #40
Delivery to us was a serious problem very briefly when Amazon Hortensis Jan 2020 #43
They've only been late 2 times to me, and never more than by one day. ooky Jan 2020 #48
Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimee... essme Jan 2020 #50
What do you want? brokephibroke Jan 2020 #54
Sorry that the slave laborers (people)..couldn't get you your crap in two days. killaphill Jan 2020 #53
Me too brokephibroke Jan 2020 #55
Nah. They don't Bettie Jan 2020 #56
Love Amazon Prime dem in texas Jan 2020 #57
Not for me..nt helpisontheway Jan 2020 #58
Living in the boonies, two day delivery never happens but it's still much faster then others. Kaleva Jan 2020 #60

brokephibroke

(1,883 posts)
3. I get that they are transitioning from common carriers
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:16 PM
Jan 2020

To their own fleet and the holidays posed some capacity issues. But it’s not like I live in bumfuque.

brokephibroke

(1,883 posts)
4. And give up The Expanse?
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jan 2020

And other programming? Nope. I’ll just take the $5 credit and hope it gets better.

44. Beltalowda!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:37 AM
Jan 2020

Last edited Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM - Edit history (1)

However, it's not like there isn't a good reason why parts of The Expanse fandom refers to Bezos as "Jules Pierre Bezos" from time to time. He might have saved our favorite show, but let's not lose sight of the fact that because scumbags like him and Musk are allowed to run with minimal or no oversight is why the solar system is in such a crapsack state in that series.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. Sniff, sniff. Do I smell some self-serving advice?
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:22 PM
Jan 2020


Amazon deliveries are pretty solid for me also. Stuff arrives on time, usually via their Postal Service link.

I am not sensitive to delivery times because I always buy stuff before I plan to use it (I like having things on hand, that is a quirk with me).

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
5. If they are developing their own delivery company and bypassing UPS and USPS then that
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:20 PM
Jan 2020

will be bad for this country.

brokephibroke

(1,883 posts)
6. That is exactly what they are doing.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:22 PM
Jan 2020

And drone / robot delivery in cities.

That will take a bit longer in semi-rural areas....

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
8. Damn, I knew Amazon would maximize profits NO MATTER who it hurt and it will hurt
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:24 PM
Jan 2020

MILLIONS

The reason the corp model is HORRIBLE is by DESIGN and charter they must do this, no matter the harm to society or the environment, in the case of Amazon the environment may be less of an issue but NO MATTER what they MUST crush workers if they can, etc.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. I think that they are using the USPS for certain classes of deliveries.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:25 PM
Jan 2020

I know that the USPS delivers most of what I order through Amazon, because most of what I order is what the USPS excels at delivering.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
11. Now, but it sounds like they are looking to become the USPS of Amazon with
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:26 PM
Jan 2020

their own system of underpaid, overworked carriers.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. You could be right. But to me, it seems that they see advantage in using the USPS
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:38 PM
Jan 2020

for some deliveries. For example, Amazon vans deliver packages all around where I live, but they seem to be focusing on the stuff with bigger delivery fees. The things that I order from Amazon typically have delivery fees in the $8-$14 dollar range and are smallish packages, it seems at some point, it is easier for Amazon to offload to the USPS and give up some of the delivery fee. I prefer to buy big ticket items in person, not online.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
61. For the stuff I buy?
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:47 PM
Jan 2020

No, because I buy off the beaten path stuff via Amazon, like small batch chemicals when I am working on new projects. So Prime would be a waste for me since I don't watch movies and the stuff that I read isn't what Amazon offers, plus, as I pointed out, I buy stuff that can't be found locally.

A lot of people here hate Amazon, but I find the company to be useful. For example, it sells very small reactors and other apparatus for home brewers, with a few modifications, I can use the equipment for my chemical experiments, that saves me from having to waste a lot of money on failed ideas, and save me from having out how to dispose of hundreds or thousands of gallons of chemicals, you can't just dump that stuff outside (industrial reactors start at 500-1500 gallons, Amazon offer 2-5 gallon, high quality vessels that I can have machines shops modify in a way that allows me to turn the vessels into reactors).

Joinfortmill

(14,429 posts)
25. Yes
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:48 PM
Jan 2020

They use the USPS when the initial delivery gets "lost" and they need to actually get it to the customer.
I have a love/hate relationship with Amazon. I buy from other vendors when I can. I don't want Amazon to be my only choice. They're not great to their suppliers or their employees, and if they become the only game in town, they won't be great to their customers either.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. I use several companies that sell through Amazon and sell direct.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:00 AM
Jan 2020

They seem to be happy. One even suggested that I can buy through Amazon when I first started using them, I have since established a direct purchase protocol with them because of the volumes that I need (in addition to volume, which Amazon can't meet because it handles smaller batches, I save money on the actual chemicals and on shipping).

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
36. For me, packages from Amazon through USPS often don't arrive
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 04:32 AM
Jan 2020

And when I go to the local USPS location to look for them, I am told to contact Amazon for a replacement since they will replace it free. The office that both my home and post office box deliveries go through is notorious for bad or non-existent services. Amazon may be fed up with having packages "lost" and having to replace them.

I suspect there are one or more thieves at that office, the PO manager knows it but don't want to turn them in. It's the only explanation I have for the really bad delivery record of that office. It has made the local newspapers more than once, so it is not just me who is having packages disappear after the tracking number shows as arriving at that location.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
22. It is my understanding that Amazon...
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:07 PM
Jan 2020

Is giving pretty big incentives and a lot of assistance to people who want to own a local Amazon delivery outfit. The individual actually owns the business. Almost all of my deliveries are coming like that now. It’s also my understanding that their incentives and assistance are attracting owners.

Sorry if I’m wrong. That is how I understand it. It’s going to be thousands of different businesses delivering their packages but because of contractual obligations they will almost all be identical, including software and vehicles.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
30. It looks like Amazon and it's delivery companies have reached some type of scheme.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:05 AM
Jan 2020

I live in a pretty urban area. Amazon delivery truck are delivering to homes and businesses in the area, but I have not had a single one of my deliveries delivered by an Amazon contractor. The contractors seem to only handle items that have shipping fees that are considerably higher than the items that I buy bring. So the Postal Service delivers Amazon packages to me.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
59. That is what they are doing. Trump tried to get post office to raise rates for Amazon
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 06:07 AM
Jan 2020

and Bezo basically flipped him off. He decided to create his own delivery system. Too bad for post office because they will lose money.

brokephibroke

(1,883 posts)
15. LOL, send them a tip
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:34 PM
Jan 2020

It clearly does matter what your zip code is. They try to stock common items in a local warehouse in anticipation of customer demand.

Overall they are a pretty smart logistics company.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. They actually are quick on the more popular mandolin and banjo strings.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:52 AM
Jan 2020

Heck, I can even get 2 day delivery on some mandola and Octave mandolin strings. But, the less popular sets aren’t available with fast shipping.

They charge a bit extra per set to cover quick shipping, so I try to bulk order from places like Juststrings. Unfortunately, they are more expensive if you just need a set or two because they charge a flat shipping rate. They ship USPS and usually here in 3 days, but not guaranteed.

I prefer USPS for most things. Probably because I used to ride with my grandad back in the 1950s when he filled in on a rural route.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. Amazon delivered a very uncommon reagent to me is about 5 days,
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:43 PM
Jan 2020

ahead of schedule. The final delivery was done by the USPS, but I analyzed where the reagent started out, somewhere in the Midwest and rapidly flowed through regional Amazon shops on it's way to my nearest Post Office.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. I have never waited a week for a package that Amazon delivers.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:45 PM
Jan 2020

I have waited for vendors that sell through Amazon, but handle their own deliveries.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
26. Wat are you talking about? It usually ships in a few hours and arrives in two days.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:57 PM
Jan 2020

I’ve only had more than two days once or twice...

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
32. +1. A lot of stuff is one day, and for awhile they had same day shipping for some items.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:55 AM
Jan 2020

I get people prefer to shop locally, but I just don’t like going in stores if I can avoid it.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
39. That literally never happened to you, ever
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 07:27 AM
Jan 2020

Prime stock always ships from one hour or so or the next day, if it's a holiday or Sunday.

I never understand why people make stuff up on these type of threads. Just don't use a company if you don't want to -- I never shop at Wal-Mart, but also do not tear down folks who do, or make up Wal-Mart sucks because stories.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
46. Not true, at least in my experience.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:40 PM
Jan 2020

Usually on its way to me that same day. Often have things delivered in one day, despite a two day promise.

Most of my smaller items come though the USPS. I have no complaints with either.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
24. All my Amazon deliveries are with shiny new Amazon vans
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:20 PM
Jan 2020

I asked one of the delivery people how they liked it. He said it’s great. Much better than delivering pizzas. I order a lot of stuff through Amazon because I hate shopping because of bad knees. Plus I ordered a lot of art supplies that I can’t get locally unless I travel downtown. Too much traffic for this old gal.

Liberal In Texas

(13,556 posts)
27. No, actually it's brilliant.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 11:58 PM
Jan 2020

Bezos is funding "Expanse" a fabulous Prime show.

We get a lot of free shipping. A lot next day. Some same day!

Do they fuck up sometimes? Yep.

Is it causing the brick and mortar stores to close? Probably.

Do I feel guilty about the Amazon employees making crap for wages and have crappy working conditions? Yes.

Will I stop using them? NO!



Liberal In Texas

(13,556 posts)
33. It's become a bureaucracy and probably fragmented because of the reach.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 01:12 AM
Jan 2020

Your experience will vary

My son just started working for him (Bezos). He isn't delivering or putting packages together. He was a NASA manager and is now working for Blue Origin. (Against my advice, btw) And Jeff wants to put not only rich people in a few minutes of weightlessness and then low earth orbit (LEO) he's going for landing on the moon. "Expense" isn't just sci-fi, it's Bezos vision.

We're in a BRAVE NEW WORLD -- maybe.

Fuck a duck.


delisen

(6,044 posts)
51. Support your favorite monopoly?
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:35 AM
Jan 2020

I guess the bleak future is inevitable..
Like climate change has to get critical and disaster almost certain. before most people act.

BlueSpot

(855 posts)
34. No it doesn't
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 01:28 AM
Jan 2020

You may have your own agenda for posting this but my results with Amazon have been very good. I have had more packages arrive early than late.

brokephibroke

(1,883 posts)
35. You are right
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 01:33 AM
Jan 2020

They are late in my zip code I’m sure more than others. If I lived north or south by 5 miles, it prolly would be better. Having said that they are zero percent on time for the last 4 weeks for me.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
37. It's mainly worth it for the streaming video
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 04:36 AM
Jan 2020

But if it were just used for shipping, yeah, not sure about that

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
38. It doesn't suck, and I get my stuff quicker now than before
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 07:22 AM
Jan 2020

I get almost everything the next day, two days sometimes, and occasionally I get stuff delivered THE SAME DAY I order.

And, that doesn't even include Prime Video and Prime Music, both of which are great.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
49. I assume the closer you are to a fulfillment warehouse the better...
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 01:02 PM
Jan 2020

Mine is pretty close so i get next day most the time.

Shrek

(3,981 posts)
40. It's great
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:00 AM
Jan 2020

I get almost everything the next day, and Alexa notifies me upon delivery so the package doesn't sit on my porch waiting for thieves to come by.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
43. Delivery to us was a serious problem very briefly when Amazon
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jan 2020

Last edited Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:52 AM - Edit history (1)

subcontracted to do its own delivery. One don't-give-a-fuck whackjob left a package at the bottom of our drive, out of sight of house or neighbors but in full view of potential thieves, and right where we'd drive over it in the dark if we didn't see it. But that's been cleaned up. Good now. FAR from sucky.

As older rural dwellers, on-line shopping and to-the-door delivery are a great boon to us. Beyond doubt it saves us money on gas and on purchases (through Amazon as well as other direct-delivery vendors). And of course, it opens up a world of choices. Most on-line merchants now have a review function, but they're often less honest, less reliable or too limited. Three reviews are usually close to worthless. Much of the world now does basic consumer product research at Amazon.

Another benefit Amazon specifically first brought the world is that, due to the product review function, the average quality of merchandise has risen enormously, as have the number of choices.

Very young people would find it hard to believe that not long ago almost NO toasters, including name brands, didn't perform their very simple functions adequately, often poor to terrible, and often broke quickly. Suppliers were getting away with it because purchasers didn't know, just thought/hoped the particular one they bought was a dud. And almost every store in every region carried the same merchandise, literally the same 5 or so products max, from most often three name brands, so consumer options were very limited to the same lousy products. Had to go well upscale to break out of that exploitation, or at least widen the choices a bit, but do it in the car because distance shopping was still close to nonexistent.

Dislike what's not good about Amazon. Decide for yourself what that is. Do I worry that it's too big and powerful? You bet. But aside from that, and considering the whole world is in a transition period exemplified by it, I think it's been amazingly beneficial from the beginning, including climatically. We're going to have to deny ourselves in future, though, in order to make substantial diminution in on-line/delivery's footprints; as things worsen, we will. Most of the new exploitative warehouse jobs are already being eliminated or upgraded to higher skill and pay.

But for perspective, remember that we tragically lost most of what we wanted to preserve long ago when local merchants in little town centers closed, and with them the places communities interconnected. Imo, on-line is overall a great, great advance over what replaced them, which is the miles of ugly local strip malls people drive to to shop, one strip mall after another, and the big regional malls that people drive even farther to. At least we can say unequivocally that it is for us.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
48. They've only been late 2 times to me, and never more than by one day.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jan 2020

They are still leaps and bounds, on deliveries, over every competitor I've used. Often by a week or more.

essme

(1,207 posts)
50. Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimee...
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:19 AM
Jan 2020

...gimme, gimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimme

Now! NoooooWWWWWW!!!!!!!

 

killaphill

(212 posts)
53. Sorry that the slave laborers (people)..couldn't get you your crap in two days.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 01:07 AM
Jan 2020

Perhaps Mr. Bezos will whip them harder if you complain loudly enough.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
56. Nah. They don't
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 01:56 AM
Jan 2020

I get my deliveries when I expect them, usually on my chosen day of the week (I go with a standard delivery day so I get most everything in one package on Thursday).

But, I also don't have a hissy fit if something isn't available immediately.

Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
60. Living in the boonies, two day delivery never happens but it's still much faster then others.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 06:11 AM
Jan 2020

Getting the vet discount, Amazon Prime costs me a little over $80 a year.

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