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sheshe2

(83,790 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 02:31 AM Jan 2020

WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT VIETNAM.

May 4, 1970 CE: Four Dead in Ohio
On May 4, 1970, the Ohio National Guard killed four students at Kent State University.


On May 4, 1970, the Ohio National Guard killed four students at Kent State University. At noon, more than 2,000 students had assembled on campus to protest the Vietnam War and the U.S. invasion of Cambodia. The National Guard tried to break up the crowd and was soon firing tear gas. Guardsmen, with bayonets attached to their rifles, pushed toward students. Some of the protesters responded by throwing rocks and verbally abusing the guards.

Guardsmen fired more than 60 rounds toward a group of protesters. They killed four people and wounded nine. Eventually the crowd dispersed, and the National Guard was convinced to leave by university faculty. The campus was closed for six weeks, students were bused to local cities, and a state of emergency was declared for surrounding towns.

American universities, the sites of many large anti-war protests, were deeply impacted and concerned about the safety and freedom of their students. The Kent State shootings triggered a nationwide student strike that forced hundreds of colleges and universities to close. More than 100,000 people protested in Washington, D.C., where an influential adviser to President Richard Nixon, Charles Coulson, remembers thinking, “This is a nation at war with itself.”

Four years later, a federal court dropped charges against the Ohio National Guardsmen.

https://www.nationalgeographic.org/thisday/may4/four-dead-ohio/





I was in high school when they slaughtered students. I protested. Don't tell me any politician cared more than the students that were there. They were slaughtered protesting. I remember then lottery, the draft. I sat with my sister and her future husband and my own, we watched.

On December 1, 1969 the Selective Service System of the United States conducted two lotteries to determine the order of call to military service in the Vietnam War for men born from January 1, 1944 to December 31, 1950. These lotteries occurred during a period of conscription in the United States that lasted from 1947 to 1973.
Draft lottery (1969) - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_lottery_%281969%29


The national guard slaughtered students. Think about that. Now look to the future. It is not pretty.


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WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT VIETNAM. (Original Post) sheshe2 Jan 2020 OP
I've NEVER forgotten this. Been to Kent State too, to pay my repsects. As far as the draft lottery BamaRefugee Jan 2020 #1
Thank you ArcticFox Jan 2020 #2
Thank you sheshe2. alwaysinasnit Jan 2020 #3
This is why I know our military will not protect us from evil drumpf orders. lark Jan 2020 #4

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
1. I've NEVER forgotten this. Been to Kent State too, to pay my repsects. As far as the draft lottery
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 04:14 AM
Jan 2020

That Wikipedia citing is a little misleading, I'm almost positive there was only one lottery in 1969. I could be wrong.
My lottery was 1970, nothing like spending a carefree summer day watching TV to find out if you were going to be killed soon.

I HATED Nixon. So bad that once while he was on TV I threw a beer mug at the screen and broke it. No way I could afford another TV as a broke college student, so I was forced to actually STUDY instead.

I HATED the Vietnam "War" too, I lost 2 high school buddies and a beloved cousin. For what? I got a very high lottery number, so I didn't have to go. If I had gotten a number that would have gotten me drafted, I would have joined the military and done my duty. But I don't feel any remorse about not going. Just remorse about my friends that I lost.

alwaysinasnit

(5,066 posts)
3. Thank you sheshe2.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 04:55 AM
Jan 2020

My three eldest brothers served during the Vietnam War. The two eldest were drafted. The eldest served in Nam and came back stateside with burns over 60% of his body. The cruelest part of the draft (for our family) was that the two eldest were legal permanent residents, not US citizens, and they were required to put their lives on the line for this country but were not allowed to vote. That is still true today even though we (for the moment) don't have a draft.

lark

(23,105 posts)
4. This is why I know our military will not protect us from evil drumpf orders.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 10:54 AM
Jan 2020

If drumpf says we are the traitors and are overthrowing the government, military will have been given the cover and will follow any orders to protect the CIC. Many here seem to think they will be heroic and self-sacrificing and will not obey an illegal order. When the CIC says it's legal and necessary, they will almost 100% follow him.

I pray this never has to be proven.

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