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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts) Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:15 AM Jan 2020

Interesting if true - did Herman Gref, head of Russian Sberbank, fly into FL late last night?

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Forensicnews.net and Scott Stedman were the org that broke the story about Trump's loans being underwritten by Russian banks. I'm not sure of their veracity, though?

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Interesting if true - did Herman Gref, head of Russian Sberbank, fly into FL late last night? (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP

K&R. nt Ilsa Jan 2020 #1

Yeah, and the story about Russian bank loans has been buried sinkingfeeling Jan 2020 #2

Hmmmm ewagner Jan 2020 #5

The owner's listed as unknown? Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #7

Yep....you've got it. ewagner Jan 2020 #13

If meeting with Trump he'd probably fly into West Palm Beach. Vinca Jan 2020 #3

Not if they're trying to keep it under the radar malaise Jan 2020 #4

That was my thought, too. PBI is 4 mi from Merd-e-Loado... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #6

What always puzzled me.... paleotn Jan 2020 #8

Maybe they came to fetch him.... flying_wahini Jan 2020 #9

Deals are being made bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #10

If true and accurate this is just one more thing that proves they think they will get away Ninga Jan 2020 #11

K&R UTUSN Jan 2020 #12

If that's the bank under sanction... ewagner Jan 2020 #14

Here are the flight facts... The Conductor Jan 2020 #15

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)

1. K&R. nt

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:28 AM

Jan 2020

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)

2. Yeah, and the story about Russian bank loans has been buried

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:30 AM

Jan 2020

by attack on Iran.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)

5. Hmmmm

Reply to sinkingfeeling (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:43 AM

Jan 2020

the flight is right, the owner isn't ....

here's flightaware.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/RA10204

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)

7. The owner's listed as unknown?

Reply to ewagner (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:49 AM

Jan 2020

ewagner

(18,964 posts)

13. Yep....you've got it.

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 04:26 PM

Jan 2020

n/t

Vinca

(50,278 posts)

3. If meeting with Trump he'd probably fly into West Palm Beach.

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:30 AM

Jan 2020

malaise

(269,053 posts)

4. Not if they're trying to keep it under the radar

Reply to Vinca (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:40 AM

Jan 2020

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)

6. That was my thought, too. PBI is 4 mi from Merd-e-Loado...

Reply to Vinca (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:46 AM

Jan 2020

Maybe landing there was too obvious, so he opted to land 40 mi away at FLL, jump into a boat and come up the inland waterway?

paleotn

(17,931 posts)

8. What always puzzled me....

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:16 AM

Jan 2020

was why Deutsche would extend loans to an individual no one else would touch with a ten foot pole. They're subject to the same regs, laws and competitive environment as Citi, BoA, etc., yet those guys wouldn't loan IQ45 lunch money. It all makes sense now. A Russian bank is backstopping the loans and Deutsche is covered financially. The Germans would never have done it otherwise.

I really think we're seeing a coup happening in slow motion.

flying_wahini

(6,606 posts)

9. Maybe they came to fetch him....

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:20 AM

Jan 2020

And take him back to Putin...

bucolic_frolic

(43,179 posts)

10. Deals are being made

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:36 AM

Jan 2020

and paid. Seems like many MidEast players to me, and all are after something.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)

11. If true and accurate this is just one more thing that proves they think they will get away

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:09 PM

Jan 2020

with it all. So far, no one has stopped them. They just keep on keeping on defiantly doing exactly what they want to.

I want this story on the front page of every newspaper and the lede on every news broadcast.

UTUSN

(70,706 posts)

12. K&R

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:44 PM

Jan 2020

ewagner

(18,964 posts)

14. If that's the bank under sanction...

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 04:28 PM

Jan 2020

can we confiscate the plane?

The Conductor

(180 posts)

15. Here are the flight facts...

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2020, 04:33 PM

Jan 2020

Most people don't know that you can trace a tail number. While that doesn't prove Herman Gref was on the plane, it is certainly true that a plane with known connections to Putin (registered to Jet Air Sistema) took off from Moscow and flew to Ft. Lauderdale, Florida last night.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/RA10204

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