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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 10:01 AM Jan 2020

Trump Thinks Attacking Iran Will Get Him Reelected. He's Wrong.

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Trump Thinks Attacking Iran Will Get Him Reelected. He’s Wrong.
Jonathan Chait
22 hrs ago


Beginning in 2011, and continuing through the next year, Donald Trump began obsessively predicting that President Obama would start a war with Iran in order to be reelected. Trump stated it publicly, on at least a half-dozen occasions, explicitly positing that attacking Iran would help Obama win reelection.


Just like Trump’s notions that Obama would direct his attorney general whom to investigate or not, or pressure the Federal Reserve to loosen the money supply in order to help his party win the next election, Trump’s attacks on Obama were the purest form of projection. They reflect his cynical belief that every president will naturally abuse their powers, and thus provide a roadmap to his own intentions.

And indeed, Trump immediately followed the killing of Qasem Suleimani by metaphorically wrapping himself in the stars and stripes. No doubt he anticipates at least a faint echo of the rally-around-the-flag dynamic that has buoyed many of his predecessors. But Trump’s critics need not assume he will enjoy any such benefit, and should grasp that their own response will help determine it.

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Americans historically support their presidents in foreign conflicts, both the wise ones and unwise ones alike, at least initially. Trump no doubt believes the halo effect will last at least through November — that he might undertake an action that would harm his reelection out of some larger sense of duty to the nation or the world is unfathomable.

But presidents traditionally benefit from a presumption of competence, or at least moral legitimacy, from their opposition. Trump has forfeited his.
He will not have Democratic leaders standing shoulder to shoulder with him, and his practice of disregarding and smearing government intelligence should likewise dispel any benefit of the doubt attached to claims he makes about the necessity of his actions. Trump has made it plain that he views American war-fighting as nothing but the extension of domestic politics. We should believe him.
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Farmer-Rick

(10,183 posts)
2. Yup...a Russian federation plane recently landed in South Florida
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jan 2020

I do believe our orange bafoon and his Slovenian Sex Worker are meeting with the Russians right now.

Champagne anyone?

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
5. Our gas prices have gone up 32 cents per gal this week.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:14 PM
Jan 2020

We filled up both of our cars yesterday. A small gesture but it seemed like the thing to do.

ancianita

(36,066 posts)
3. He wrapped himself in christianism as much as the flag. Now he'll rally at fundie churches
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jan 2020

like the one in Miami.

His competence is only the military's competence, which he hides behind and knows nothing about.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. tRUMP has never had the majority. His success in politics is based on ratfuckery and corruption
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:12 PM
Jan 2020

that never ends.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
6. That's one fine anti dump campaign ad!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:26 PM
Jan 2020

All of this because one person was killed. Yet Gallagher is fine murdering in cold blood?

How many thousands have we wiped out at wedding parties?

America has no moral high ground and the evangelicals can hopefully look for a visit from the IRS!

That is why they feel persecuted and I hope they feel it even more!

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
7. Trump will try to paint himself as patriotic for bludgeoning Iran's military leader
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jan 2020

and Biden as a tool for Obama's Iran Treaty. But I think Americans are now too smart to buy such sleight of hand, even from Trump, whose motivation here is transparent even to those in his administration.

Crowman2009

(2,497 posts)
8. Given the large amount of SAMs and the fact they've be getting ready...
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jan 2020

...for almost 40 years. I would say that an air strike or any attack would be a terrible idea. Along with the larger population, mountains, and even the more democratic factions in Iran feel the same way about our military as the radical Shia now. Did I also mention the Shah's family is still living in the states as well?

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
10. Gasoline prices just spiked 15+ cents the last two days
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:57 PM
Jan 2020

I feel sorry for the guy who has to climb the ladder to change the numbers on the gas station billboard that announces the prices. He's going to be going up and down a lot soon.

dlk

(11,569 posts)
11. Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz and, essentially, the flow of middle eastern oil
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jan 2020

We can never forget the GOP has intentionally inflicted us with Trump. They are completely unfit to govern in any circumstance. Before this is over, it wouldn’t be surprising if oil prices go through the roof and our economy is seriously impacted. Putin must be so pleased.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
12. Iraq and Afghanistan have soured the U.S. on these wars
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 02:29 PM
Jan 2020

Barring a major 9/11 level attack, I'm not sure anyone would get a huge boost by going after Iran this agressively. I think even President Obama's military actions in Syria weren't that popular. One of the more effective attacks against Clinton was painting her as a warmonger. I think at best Trump gets a small temporary bump in popularity following some media bullshit.

This is all asuming Iranian military doesn't do anything incredibly stupid in retaliation, of course.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. I hate him so much.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jan 2020

Hate, hate, hate him. I wake up every day hoping to hear news of his passing. The day it happens will be one of the happiest days of my life. I am so tired of what he is doing to this country and to the world.

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