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CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
1. NYT: Ntl Security experts and others at Pentagon unaware of reason for Trump's actions in Iran
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 10:45 AM
Jan 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/world/middleeast/suleimani-iran-iraq-strike.html

. . .

The question was why now? “This guy has been killing Americans in Iraq since 2003,” said Jon Soltz, the chairman of VoteVets.org and an Iraq war veteran. “I was in one of his attacks in Taji in 2011. They were dropping 240-millimeter rockets on us. So this is not a surprise that he’s involved in killing Americans.”

. . .

“We’d be negligent if we didn’t respond,” Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters on Friday in his Pentagon office. “The threat of inaction exceeded the threat of action.”

Still, officials offered scant details and only general explanations for why these reported threats were any different from the rocket attacks, roadside bombings and other assaults carried out by General Suleimani’s Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps over the years. “Size, scale and scope,” General Milley said without elaboration.

National security experts and even other officials at the Pentagon said they were unaware of anything drastically new about Iranian behavior in recent weeks; General Suleimani has been accused of prodding Shiite militias into attacking Americans for more than a decade.

The drone strike came at a charged time for Mr. Trump, who faces a Senate trial after being impeached by the House largely along party lines last month for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. While advisers insisted politics had nothing to do with the decision, the timing was bound to raise questions in an era marked by deep suspicion across party lines.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
3. For those unfamiliar with RC's work, she is INCREDIBLY KNOWLEDGEABLE when it comes
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:12 AM
Jan 2020

to anything geo-political in the Middle East! Rachel has interviewed her a number of times on her show, and I'm always blown away by the depth of her understanding and attention to detail.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
5. I think the Pentagon briefing or statement used the word "pointedly"
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jan 2020

referring to Trump being the sole one who signed off on this.

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
7. What's new, remember we were told there were weapons of mass destruction .....
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 01:02 PM
Jan 2020

.... somewhere north, south, east or west of who knew. A typical Rumsfeld line of bullshit. Like the other "you know what you know but you don't know what you don't know and blah, blah, blah".

Two points.
1. Wag the dog when you're in trouble on the home front and want to change the subject.

2. There is a whole contingent of hawks that have wanted a war with Iran. Bolton's name is at the top of the list followed by Bibi, Putin and their puppet Trump.

Trump wants and needs to be a "war president" to deal with his political troubles at home including the 2020 election. A classic GOP move start a war to rally the troops. And put up a shield from attacks on the "war president".

Why do we keep falling for this crap.

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