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Baitball Blogger

(46,735 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 01:50 PM Jan 2020

Time to look up that post that reported there were sightings of multiple drones.

Could this have been a practice run?

It’s Creepy’: Unexplained Drones Are Swarming by Night Over Colorado

Sheriffs in western Nebraska and eastern Colorado say they don’t know who’s flying the drones — or why. The F.A.A. is investigating.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/01/us/drones-FAA-colorado-nebraska.html




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Mysterious Swarms of Giant Drones Keep Appearing at Night Over Colorado
IRENE JIAN, BUSINESS INSIDER
3 JAN 2020

Something strange has been happening in eastern Colorado at night.

Since the week of Christmas, giant drones measuring up to 6 feet (1.8 metres) across have been spotted in the sky at night, sometimes in swarms as large as 30.

https://www.sciencealert.com/mysterious-swarms-of-giant-drones-keep-appearing-at-night-over-colorado


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Time to look up that post that reported there were sightings of multiple drones. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 OP
The differences between those drones in Colorado and MineralMan Jan 2020 #1
I just wonder, how many of the ones that are six feet in size are needed to Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #2
Those small drones can't carry missiles, so they can't do MineralMan Jan 2020 #3
Unless they are a missle lame54 Jan 2020 #4
. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #5
But they're not missiles. MineralMan Jan 2020 #6
Unless they are Turkish Kamikaze Drones jpak Jan 2020 #7
They were not that. I saw video of them hovering. MineralMan Jan 2020 #8
Some people seem determined to panic. cwydro Jan 2020 #9
Why haven't the drone operators revealed themselves? jpak Jan 2020 #21
What's odd about it? jberryhill Jan 2020 #28
Let them video your house every night jpak Jan 2020 #29
Is something illegal going on? Yes or no? jberryhill Jan 2020 #30
Local LE and the FAA want to know jpak Jan 2020 #31
No, that's not good enough jberryhill Jan 2020 #32
Are you insinuating something? jpak Jan 2020 #33
I'm insinuating that people who are not breaking the law... jberryhill Jan 2020 #37
Why should they? cwydro Jan 2020 #35
Because any large drone can be weaponized jpak Jan 2020 #10
Sure. But it takes a very large drone, like one of our MineralMan Jan 2020 #11
Nope - the Turkish kamikaze drones are man-portable. jpak Jan 2020 #13
I actially was not suggesting they were... lame54 Jan 2020 #17
Would be a bizzare thing for our military to use Bradical79 Jan 2020 #19
I failed to make my point... lame54 Jan 2020 #20
Oh, for crying out loud. cwydro Jan 2020 #12
No. Maybe military or a company testing new tech Bradical79 Jan 2020 #14
I've seen the drone light-shows in China. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #15
Flying with blinking lights sarisataka Jan 2020 #16
Oh, there's defenitely another possible explanation... Bradical79 Jan 2020 #18
How is it that no drones have tailed these drones. CabalPowered Jan 2020 #22
The Drone Wars. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #23
Drone manufacturers CabalPowered Jan 2020 #24
Good question ck4829 Jan 2020 #25
Check the History Channel I am sure it doc03 Jan 2020 #26
WTF? jberryhill Jan 2020 #27
They're spraying experimental aerosol vaccines on the homes of anti-vaxers. hunter Jan 2020 #34
Lol. You win the thread! cwydro Jan 2020 #36

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
1. The differences between those drones in Colorado and
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 02:00 PM
Jan 2020

the armed Predator and Reaper drones being used in Iraq are enormous. There's really no relationship between the two.

The wingspan of an MQ-9 Reaper is 66 feet. The drones in Colorado are about 6 feet in size.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-9_Reaper

Baitball Blogger

(46,735 posts)
2. I just wonder, how many of the ones that are six feet in size are needed to
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jan 2020

cause the same damage as a military drone? I imagine you would need small drones to go under the radar?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
3. Those small drones can't carry missiles, so they can't do
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jan 2020

any damage, really. As for radar, the drones used in Iraq don't worry about radar. The only force with any capability of destroying such a drone in that particular area is the United States. Our drones there operate pretty freely, as needed.

The drones in Colorado, whatever it is they're doing, have cameras, not weapons. They're commercial reconnaissance drones, nor armed military drones.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
6. But they're not missiles.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jan 2020

They're camera drones. Judging from the photos of them, I'd guess they weigh about 20 lb. each. They might dent your car if they fell on it, but they're not missiles.

Here's a commercial drone about that size:



It costs about $6000, and weighs 22 lb. It can carry about 13 pounds, typically a camera.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. They were not that. I saw video of them hovering.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 02:32 PM
Jan 2020

They are multi-prop copter drones. For pete's sake, why are you trying to link one thing with another? That's silly.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. What's odd about it?
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:15 PM
Jan 2020

When you are going about your lawful business, you have no obligation to explain yourself to strangers.

There’s no law being broken, so the drone operators have no reason to explain what they are up to.

If they are doing some kind of survey for a commercial purpose, then they certainly aren’t going to give away whatever proprietary data or techniques they are using.

I don’t see why some feel a need to pry into the business of others if nothing illegal is going on.

Is there some kind of probable cause that a crime is being committed? If not, then people in my country are free to go about their business.

Maybe things are different in your country.

I don’t believe they the public has some general right to know what law abiding people are up to.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
30. Is something illegal going on? Yes or no?
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:29 PM
Jan 2020

They are not videoing anyone’s house every night.

Did you read the article?

What kind of country do you come from where people who are not violating any law are required to explain themselves to the public at large?
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
32. No, that's not good enough
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jan 2020

I’m sure there are lots of things cops want to know. Without a warrant, probable cause, or reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed, then they aren’t going to find out jack shit.

Big Ag and a variety of polluting industries would like to make it illegal to survey their properties or photograph them from a lawful position (ie from off the property or from within public airspace).

We do not live in a country where the cops can run around demanding answers from people who are not violating the law.

I realize there are people who are comfortable with such societies in which “a cop wants to know” is reason enough. They are generally not Democrats.

jpak

(41,758 posts)
33. Are you insinuating something?
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jan 2020

Democrats welcome unauthorized surveillance of their homes and property?

Privatized Stasi?

lol

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
37. I'm insinuating that people who are not breaking the law...
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:34 PM
Jan 2020

...cannot be compelled to explain themselves.

It’s a simple principle and fairly basic.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
11. Sure. But it takes a very large drone, like one of our
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jan 2020

military Predator or Reaper drones to carry missiles large enough to blow vehicles into smithereens. Little commercial drones can't do that. Nope. Not a chance.

Here's the drone that was used in Iraq. Wingspan 66 feet. Cost? Umpteen Million Dollars



Here's a large commercial camera drone. Diameter 6 feet. It can carry 13 pounds. Cost? $6000

jpak

(41,758 posts)
13. Nope - the Turkish kamikaze drones are man-portable.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 03:03 PM
Jan 2020

Russia has a similar drone for sale. (made by Kalashnikov)

https://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.570015.1550937326!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_900/image.jpg

And Russia used a copter-type drone to drop a thermite grenade into a Ukrainian ammunition depot - destroyed a billion dollars worth of munitions.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a27511/russia-drone-thermite-grenade-ukraine-ammo/

and they do not have to carry a warhead at all to shut down a major airport.

If an operator can deploy 30 drones at night over CO without the knowledge of law enforcement or the FAA or the military - they can make a lot of mischief.

There ought to be a law.

lame54

(35,293 posts)
17. I actially was not suggesting they were...
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jan 2020

Just pointing out a 6 foot drone could be a kamikaze bomb

Again - not saying those were

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
19. Would be a bizzare thing for our military to use
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jan 2020

Considering we've got a lot of very precise missle launching drones already in the skies. A kamikaze drone would be more of an IED thing from a much lower tech militarized group. There's zero reason for the U.S. to use such a thing for assassinations.

lame54

(35,293 posts)
20. I failed to make my point...
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jan 2020

It was pointed out that these couldn't possibly hold missles because of their size

I was pointing that they wouldn't need to CARRY missles if they WERE missles

Wasn't talking about our govt or their govt or any govt

Was just saying deadly drones can come in any size

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
14. No. Maybe military or a company testing new tech
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 03:12 PM
Jan 2020

Reading about them, they're very different than what we use for strikes, relatively slow, and seem easy to spot.

I've seen it described as operating as a swarm, so maybe testing some kind of experimental drone coordinating system?

Example:

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
16. Flying with blinking lights
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jan 2020

And hovering over houses, yup definitely a military operation. Training for a missile strike in Iraq. No other explanation is possible.

CabalPowered

(12,690 posts)
22. How is it that no drones have tailed these drones.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jan 2020

Surely someone in Colorado has a drone capable of following the swarm..

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. WTF?
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 05:41 PM
Jan 2020

The military has practically unlimited stretches of desert to play with, but instead they put blinking lights on them and run them over populated areas?

Yah right.

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