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Show me a single fucking Dem that shed a tear over Soleimani, Clint. I normally really like Clint, but that was a stupid fucking statement, not dissimilar to Nikki Haley's asinine comments yesterday.
The Blue Flower
(5,444 posts)He's set up a straw man.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)He's a smart guy - for him to parrot Haley is extremely disappointing.
What a shame. When he comes on TV, I can't help but to blurt "just the facts, ma'am" (he reminds me of Jack Webb ).
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Russia's ass. Maybe his account has been hacked? I realize it probably hasn't, very out of character for him.😳
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)...but I'd already made 2 tweet replies on the thread. The fucking enraging part is that it's been retweeted by MAGAts.
On edit: oh what the hell - just did:
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hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)genxlib
(5,534 posts)Was it Deserved?
Was it Wise?
Was it Legal?
Commentary like this seems to miss the fact that the answer to #1 can be yes while still having serious concerns about the other 2.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Hes obviously trying to bolster his I go after liberals too creds with this snotty little tweet.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Basically saying "Dems have Trump Derangement Syndrome".
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)Dems are thinking of the consequences of conflict with Iran, which will be much bigger and complicated than Iraq with much less support from our allies.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)getagrip_already
(14,837 posts)Once you separate the individual targeted from the methods, you see the moral outcry.
This isnt how obl was dealt with. Its not how saddam was dealt with. This wasnt a shooting war and it wasnt an enemy combatent (it is a stretch to say someone traveling at an airport is in combat).
It was a cowards plan. It was illegal.
The tears arent for an iranian asshat. They are for our dignity.
MagickMuffin
(15,952 posts)But his @selectedwisdom tells me all I need to know.
Does he get his wisdom from a vending machine?
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)This tweet sucks...
gordianot
(15,243 posts)They both are dependent on religious fanatics. The worst part of this mess Russia is manipulating both sides.
crickets
(25,983 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)mountain grammy
(26,648 posts)This is just nuts.
Happy Hoosier
(7,386 posts)WE can oppose Trump's abuse of power without expressing ourselves in a way that can be seen as sympathetic to Iran.
Iran is a bad actor. We know this. Trump did destroy what we had achieved in seeking a way to live with them, but their continued support for Assad, and terrorist militias throughout the region remained a problem. And Solemaini WAS coordinating and supplying terrorist efforts against the US and allies. If anyone deserved a hellfire missile in the ear, it's him.
BUT.... that's doesn't mean it was wise, or legal to kill him.
In opposing Trump on this, we must avoid ANYTHING that can be interpreted as "poor Iran".
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,386 posts)But that narrative is being created. We need to fight it.
SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)We fight it by NOT giving it ANY oxygen.
SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,386 posts)I diod not say they ARE "poor Iran." I'm saying they can be twisted to read that way. For example, I think those who say that the killing was "unjustified" can be twisted to be saying that Soleimani wasn't a piece of shit, which he most assuredly was.
But there is a difference between someone "deserving" death, and it being legal to make them so. We need to focus on the fact that assassinating a foreign official is a big step to take and possibly illegal. Not on the attack being somehow "unjustified."
But if folks wanna get all defensive, you can watch where it will go....
Wednesdays
(17,408 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)...yet he leaves it up. It's being retweeted by MAGAts.