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Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?
The serious answer: Heres what we really think about Trump supporters - the rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't...
That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine."
That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."
That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."
That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue."
That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "He sure knows me."
That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!"
That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.
That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?"
That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."
That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"
That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!"
That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!"
That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."
That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!"
That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!"
That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense."
That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!"
That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids, has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that theyre just animals - and you say, Well, OK then.
That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise.
What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2020, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.
Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.
Credit to https://www.reddit.com/r/esist/comments/aewghr/why_do_liberals_think_trump_supporters_are_stupid/
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)This should be the perspective that all media ooze (defend).
ret5hd
(20,493 posts)Grins
(7,217 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)I wondered how many PAGES it was going to take to answer the question.
snacker
(3,619 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,629 posts)pandr32
(11,588 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)bdamomma
(63,868 posts)excellent.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)3catwoman3
(24,006 posts)...I have read it before. It is a damn good list.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)This one from last fall:
Bruce Lindner
Dear Republicans:
You didnt object when you heard Donald Trump say he likes to grab women by the pussy.
You didnt object when he kicked the American media out of the Oval Office and handed two Russian spies classified data entrusted to him by one of our allies.
You didnt object when he likened our intelligence community to Nazis.
You didnt object when he stood before the Memorial Wall of Stars at Langley and told lie after lie about himself and the election.
You didnt object while at the Helsinki Summit, he met behind closed doors with the Russian President.
You didnt object to him banning the American Press from covering that meeting.
You didnt object when he emerged from that meeting and sided with the Russian President over the findings of our own intelligence community.
You didnt object when the Trump campaign admitted to accepting Russian offers to help him defeat SecState Clinton.
You didnt object when he stood before the cameras and said; Russia, if youre listening, I hope youre able to find 30k e-mails that are missing.
You didnt object when the Russians responded that VERY DAY with stolen emails.
You didnt object when it was confirmed that the basis for the Trump Tower meeting was a total fabrication. That it had nothing to do with adopting Russian children, and everything to do with swinging the election.
You didnt object when it was revealed that Trump himself floated the cover story of adoptions from Russia.
You didnt object when it was confirmed that his campaign staff had met with Russian agents over 150 times, after claiming they had never met with them at all.
You didnt object when the Trump campaign declined to inform the FBI about the Russian advances.
You didnt object when Trumps campaign manager gave internal data on four key battleground states to agents working for Putin.
You sure as hell didnt object when those very same four battleground states miraculously shifted towards Trump on Election Day.
You didnt object when Trump kicked his Attorney General out of the room and asked the FBI Director to let his National Security Advisor off the hook for lying about his contacts with Russian agents.
You didnt object when Trump fired that FBI Director for declining to let Flynn off the hook.
You didnt object when Special Counsel Robert Mueller said he couldnt establish a conspiracy, largely because so many of Trumps staffers lied during their interviews, and because Trump himself refused to submit to a live interview.
You didnt object when Special Counsel Mueller cited no fewer than ten instances of the president himself obstructing justice in his report: an impeachable offense.
You didnt object when it was revealed he cheated on his wife with a porn star.
You didnt object when it was revealed that he paid off that porn star to the tune of $130,000.00 to buy her silence just prior to the election, an illegal attempt to hide relevant facts from the electorate.
You didnt object when he withdrew the U.S. from the JCPOA, which was the first and ONLY treaty thats successfully kept Iranian nuclear ambitions in check.
You didnt object when he pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accords.
You didnt object when he scuttled the Obama administrations clean air and water standards.
You didnt object when he opened up vast tracts of protected wilderness to his friends in the oil and mining industries.
You didnt object to the myriad cases of violations of the emoluments clause.
You didnt object when he mocked a disabled man at one of his rallies.
You didnt object to the recently-discovered military stopovers at Trump properties in Scotland.
You didnt object when after mass shooting after mass shooting, he wouldnt lift a finger to protect even little school children from gun violence.
You didnt object when he started putting tariffs on everyone from China to Turkey, which have undeniably hurt millions of people around the world and shaken the stock markets.
You didnt object when he gave the corporate farming industry $26B in compensation for their losses due to his tariffs.
You didnt object when he channeled $3.6B in Pentagon appropriations to his wall on the Mexican border.
You didnt object when Trump called out against Islamic terrorism on multiple occasions, but never once for terrorism by white nationalists.
You didnt object when he forcibly separated little children from their parents.
You didnt object when he confined those children to chain-link paddocks.
You didnt object when a whistleblower revealed the president had on multiple occasions said things that potentially undermined our nations safety and security.
You didnt object when his personal lawyer, his personal consultant, and his army of sycophants at Fox News have repeatedly and consistently lied about ALL of the above for three excruciatingly long years.
So heres my question for you: What about any of the above do you believe entitles you to the right to call yourselves patriots? In anything other than todays bizarro-world, you wouldnt even make the rank of American. When this nightmare ends, well remind you of just how patriotic you were during these days. Your karma is gonna sting.
Handy to carry a copy in the wallet or purse in case of right-wing attack......
KY.........
3catwoman3
(24,006 posts)These have a NanceGreggs feel to them.
Karadeniz
(22,529 posts)Will never end.
Grokenstein
(5,725 posts)or more.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)Simple, direct, factual.
Those last two paragraphs say so much.
Thank you so much for writing this. I hope it goes viral.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)Florida writer Adam-Troy Castro, shared by a friend on Facebook. Created Jan, 2019
https://www.reddit.com/r/esist/comments/aewghr/why_do_liberals_think_trump_supporters_are_stupid/
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)It absolutely should have. Its so brilliant. Maybe another go-round will do the trick.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)I'm not on Facebook - but it may have made the rounds last year?
I agree, it deserves to go viral.
Baitball Blogger
(46,732 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)Should be on the opinion pages of every newspaper.
Ohiogal
(32,005 posts)I couldnt add one more word.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)As you have already given permission to steal, i am going to steal it also.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)czarjak
(11,278 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)marieo1
(1,402 posts)This is the most honest assessment of this administration and republicans I've read yet. Thank you.
Orrex
(63,215 posts)The impeached and credibly accused rapist Trump is an idiot racist fuckhead worshiped by a cult of idiot racist fuckheads.
That is the entirety of it. His fuckhead cultists are unworthy of empathy, outreach, or compassion. Fuck every last one of them.
And fuck every idiot racist fuckhead currently lurking here in search of fodder to post on their idiot racist fuckhead conservative circle jerk forums.
Every day that Fuckhead Trump doesn't suffer a massive, debilitating stroke is a day wasted.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,435 posts)We collectively could raise the money to print this in a publication like USA Today,
I am reasonably certain they wouldnt print it but it sure is fun to think of tens of thousands of deplorables heads exploding as they read it.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Donald Corruption Trump is the very definition of a corrupt politician.
DDySiegs
(253 posts)I especially congratulate you on your superb conclusion, which I quote:
What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2020, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.
Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)I can only rec this once.
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)For bare naked truth. Bookmarked because Im going to need this. Many thanks Heartstrings.
kacekwl
(7,017 posts)true.
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)And sadly true.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)A little too kind, if you ask me.
yonder
(9,666 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/04/27/how-bad-does-it-have-get
Its bad enough that he lost the election by 3,000,000 popular votes.
Its bad enough that the Russians helped him get elected by manipulating social media in critical electoral college states.
Its bad enough that he helped the Russians do that by providing them confidential polling data to guide their Facebook ad targeting.
Its bad enough that those ads were seen by more than 100,000,000 people when the total electoral college difference over three states was 70,000 votes.
Its bad enough that those involved with his campaign who were also engaged with the Russians lied repeatedly, both publicly and under oath, about that engagement.
Its bad enough that many tens of millions of dollars mysteriously disappeared from his inauguration committee, and he feels no compunction to explain where it went.
Its bad enough that he brags about groping women and grabbing them by the pussy. Is there an honest woman in the country who admires that? Wants that?
Its bad enough that hes been credibly accused of sexual assault by more than 20 women.
Its bad enough that he is an unindicted co-conspirator in the felony to commit election finance fraud by paying hush money to a Playboy bunny and a porn star.
Its bad enough that he filed for bankruptcy six times, stiffing workers, contractors, and lenders for tens of millions of dollars.
Its bad enough that his resorts and other properties for years hired undocumented aliens, even as he railed against a tidal wave of illegal immigrants.
Its bad enough that he inherited $413,000,000 from his father, much of it through illegal tax dodges, but pretends to be a self-made man.
Its bad enough that his charitable foundation was ordered shut down after having been revealed to be a sham, used to help promote his business and political interests.
Its bad enough he claims he was a good student, but threatens to sue any schools that release his grades.
Its bad enough he claims to be a brilliant businessman but refuses to release his taxes which would prove it. Or, disprove it.
Its bad enough that he says the Mueller report totally exonerates him, yet refuses to allow it to be released, or, for critical witnesses to be able to testify about it.
Its bad enough that he grossly understated the value of his assets to dodge taxes, while grossly overstating their value to secure bank loans.
Its bad enough that the Mueller report detailed 10 instances of obstruction of justice that would be criminal, were he not the president and, so, immune from indictment.
Its bad enough that hes a pathological liar, telling almost 10,000 lies since assuming office, literally not being able to deal with reality.
Its bad enough, his boot-licking of Putin at Helsinki, where he said he believed Putin about Russian interference in the 2016 election, but not his own intelligence chiefs.
Its bad enough that he has separated thousands of immigrant children from their parents, put them in cages, and then lost track of them.
Its bad enough that he praised neo-Nazi marchers in Charlottesville two years ago, then re-defended them just a few days ago.
Its bad enough that, though sworn to ensure that the laws are faithfully executed, he told immigration officials to break the law, promising to pardon them if they were convicted.
Its bad enough that he told senior White House aides to lie to the Mueller commission about his efforts to obstruct the same commissions investigation.
Its bad enough that he smeared a Gold Star Family whose son was killed in Iraq.
Its bad enough that he repeatedly smeared bona-fide Vietnam war hero, John McCain, while he, himself, wrangled five draft deferments to dodge service in the same war.
Its bad enough he promised to help the working man, but immediately passed a $1.5 trillion tax cut that went almost exclusively to corporations and the wealthy.
Its bad enough he continues to claim hes building The Wall when not a single inch of new wall has been built since he took office.
Its bad enough he promised to protect Social Security but just two weeks ago submitted a budget that cuts benefits to millions, including seniors in poverty.
Its bad enough that he refuses to cooperate with Congressional hearings, trashing the Constitution and the checks and balances at the very heart of our form of government.
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Some days it seems it's still getting worse.....
calimary
(81,304 posts)pecosbob
(7,541 posts)Hateful wretches that have no respect for anyone or anything. Anyone who has seen one of these trucks knows what I mean...
Glaisne
(515 posts)Trump flags and stickers.
malaise
(269,045 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)lastlib
(23,244 posts)argyl
(3,064 posts)Most of these examples show them as being vicious, racist, misogynistic assholes.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)BigOleDummy
(2,270 posts)Was well said. Very well said indeed.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)irisblue
(32,980 posts)is being very very quickly drained.
crickets
(25,981 posts)Upthevibe
(8,052 posts)"He doesn't kill little babies....(unless they're live babies at the border) ..and will appoint judges that won't kill babies...."
MomInTheCrowd
(268 posts)Forget the labels....
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)MomInTheCrowd
(268 posts)I've been reading along for awhile.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Stargleamer
(1,989 posts)of rape and sexual harassment and you said "no problem"
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)They actually believe that partial birth abortion is a thing. And further believe that Democrats are for it and Trump and Republicans are against it. And apparently that trumps everything.
Glaisne
(515 posts)and stiff his contractors, and stiff his employees, and stiff his customers, and stiff the government. The grifter and conman in chief.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)mgardener
(1,817 posts)The adultery.
Stealing from charities.
And the draft dodging, coward.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)a couple of Nance Gregg rants as one of the best things I have ever read at DU.
Fan-fucking-tastic!
Joinfortmill
(14,428 posts)greatbaldeagle
(157 posts)That when an American President's wife and daughters had to witness the disgraceful racist imagery of their grown husband and father standing before the world to respond to his birther lies by showing his birth certificate, you said "yeah, I'm okay with that".
That you are okay with that same racist liar NOT showing his tax returns, unlike all the previous Presidents before him going back 40 years.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)The rest are evil fuckers and need to be dealt with accordingly.
Billions worldwide hate these fuckers as they endanger their very lives. They will make sure that they are dealt with accordingly.