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Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:33 PM Jan 2020

An anguished question from a trump supporter:

Last edited Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:15 AM - Edit history (1)

‘Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?’

The serious answer: Here’s what we really think about Trump supporters - the rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't...

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine."

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."

That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."

That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue."

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "He sure knows me."

That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!"

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.

That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?"

That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"

That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!"

That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!"

That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."

That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!"

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!"

That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense."

That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!"

That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids, has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “Well, OK then.”

That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise.

What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2020, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.

Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.

Credit to https://www.reddit.com/r/esist/comments/aewghr/why_do_liberals_think_trump_supporters_are_stupid/

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An anguished question from a trump supporter: (Original Post) Heartstrings Jan 2020 OP
Outstanding. n/t LuckyCharms Jan 2020 #1
+ 1 million flor-de-jasmim Jan 2020 #4
Out-fuckin'-standing. ret5hd Jan 2020 #9
...and he could have written more. NM Grins Jan 2020 #59
When I first started reading this, Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2020 #72
Perfect! snacker Jan 2020 #2
Rec. cwydro Jan 2020 #3
A big, fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2020 #5
+1000000 pandr32 Jan 2020 #6
May I steal this? Cary Jan 2020 #7
Absolutely! Heartstrings Jan 2020 #12
One of the bests posts I've seen here. Well done. n/t Whiskeytide Jan 2020 #8
K&R bdamomma Jan 2020 #10
I'm sending to my sister, the stupid Trumper. C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #11
Have you posted this before? I feel like... 3catwoman3 Jan 2020 #13
No, I haven't.... Heartstrings Jan 2020 #14
There's been several similar ones floating around, such as...... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #39
Thanks. 3catwoman3 Jan 2020 #40
I think you ticked all the boxes...but now you need to include Iran. I suspect the list Karadeniz Jan 2020 #15
Requires tri-weekly updates Grokenstein Jan 2020 #26
Excellent! FailureToCommunicate Jan 2020 #16
This is so, so, so good renate Jan 2020 #17
You ought to at least give credit to the original author on which your post is based: scarletwoman Jan 2020 #18
Credit given....thank you Heartstrings Jan 2020 #24
It's crazy that this is a year old and never went viral renate Jan 2020 #41
I've seen it posted on DU at least once before - possibly twice. scarletwoman Jan 2020 #42
+1 spooky3 Jan 2020 #54
Beautifully written. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #19
Fantastic. matt819 Jan 2020 #20
Perfect. Ohiogal Jan 2020 #21
great words here tiredtoo Jan 2020 #22
Kickn this... defacto7 Jan 2020 #23
Ugly? Mean? Nasty? czarjak Jan 2020 #25
Thanks for posting this. amuse bouche Jan 2020 #27
honest assessment marieo1 Jan 2020 #28
Fuckheads see all of those horrible truths as proof of President Fuckhead's greatness Orrex Jan 2020 #29
Someone needs to start a go fund me account so that NoMoreRepugs Jan 2020 #30
Because Trumpers are supporting corruption UCmeNdc Jan 2020 #31
Well Said, Heartstrings! DDySiegs Jan 2020 #32
I'm sorry, but Flaleftist Jan 2020 #33
Kick. MontanaMama Jan 2020 #34
Fan-freakin-tastic. And kacekwl Jan 2020 #35
+∞ chwaliszewski Jan 2020 #36
Hell yes! K&R onecaliberal Jan 2020 #37
Well done. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #38
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #43
K&R yonder Jan 2020 #44
Another tRump punchlist from April - How Bad Does It Have to Get? KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #45
FABULOUS thread! Definitely bookmarking. calimary Jan 2020 #46
We must realize that many of these people aren't stupid but simply showing us who they really are pecosbob Jan 2020 #47
It's missing the giant Glaisne Jan 2020 #67
Reads like a NanceGregg OP malaise Jan 2020 #48
I love her ops! Wish I had her talent! Heartstrings Jan 2020 #71
K & R! Bookmarked. lastlib Jan 2020 #49
Voting against their own interests make them stupid. argyl Jan 2020 #50
wow.... samnsara Jan 2020 #51
brilliant! samnsara Jan 2020 #52
Now THAT BigOleDummy Jan 2020 #53
I want to print this up and hand it out to a few people. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2020 #55
My well of sympathy towards& for trumpers 'anguish' irisblue Jan 2020 #56
Wow. Share this everywhere - it's brilliant. K&R crickets Jan 2020 #57
Please see their true response: Upthevibe Jan 2020 #58
Change "liberals" to "Human Beings" MomInTheCrowd Jan 2020 #60
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jan 2020 #61
Thanks MomInTheCrowd Jan 2020 #63
hope you enjoy yourself here!!! gopiscrap Jan 2020 #64
Also: that numerous women accused him Stargleamer Jan 2020 #62
In my mom''s and sister's case.. cannabis_flower Jan 2020 #65
That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, Glaisne Jan 2020 #66
Welcome to du! Heartstrings Jan 2020 #68
He forgot mgardener Jan 2020 #69
I've been here for a long time, and that is right up there with ... 11 Bravo Jan 2020 #70
Amen to that Joinfortmill Jan 2020 #73
Forgot a few greatbaldeagle Jan 2020 #74
Some of them are as dumb as a box of rocks. warmfeet Jan 2020 #75
Perhaps this explains why we think Trump supporters are stupid. muntrv Jan 2020 #76

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
39. There's been several similar ones floating around, such as......
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 01:07 AM
Jan 2020

This one from last fall:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157341691631145&id=677676144

Bruce Lindner

Dear Republicans:

You didn’t object when you heard Donald Trump say he likes to grab women “by the pussy.”

You didn’t object when he kicked the American media out of the Oval Office and handed two Russian spies classified data entrusted to him by one of our allies.

You didn’t object when he likened our intelligence community to “Nazis.”

You didn’t object when he stood before the Memorial Wall of Stars at Langley and told lie after lie about himself and the election.

You didn’t object while at the Helsinki Summit, he met behind closed doors with the Russian President.

You didn’t object to him banning the American Press from covering that meeting.

You didn’t object when he emerged from that meeting and sided with the Russian President over the findings of our own intelligence community.

You didn’t object when the Trump campaign admitted to accepting Russian offers to help him defeat SecState Clinton.

You didn’t object when he stood before the cameras and said; “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find 30k e-mails that are missing.”

You didn’t object when the Russians responded that VERY DAY with stolen emails.

You didn’t object when it was confirmed that the basis for the Trump Tower meeting was a total fabrication. That it had nothing to do with adopting Russian children, and everything to do with swinging the election.

You didn’t object when it was revealed that Trump himself floated the cover story of adoptions from Russia.

You didn’t object when it was confirmed that his campaign staff had met with Russian agents over 150 times, after claiming they had never met with them at all.

You didn’t object when the Trump campaign declined to inform the FBI about the Russian advances.

You didn’t object when Trump’s campaign manager gave internal data on four key battleground states to agents working for Putin.

You sure as hell didn’t object when those very same four battleground states miraculously shifted towards Trump on Election Day.

You didn’t object when Trump kicked his Attorney General out of the room and asked the FBI Director to let his National Security Advisor off the hook for lying about his contacts with Russian agents.

You didn’t object when Trump fired that FBI Director for declining to let Flynn off the hook.

You didn’t object when Special Counsel Robert Mueller said he couldn’t establish a conspiracy, largely because so many of Trump’s staffers lied during their interviews, and because Trump himself refused to submit to a live interview.

You didn’t object when Special Counsel Mueller cited no fewer than ten instances of the president himself obstructing justice in his report: an impeachable offense.

You didn’t object when it was revealed he cheated on his wife with a porn star.

You didn’t object when it was revealed that he paid off that porn star to the tune of $130,000.00 to buy her silence just prior to the election, an illegal attempt to hide relevant facts from the electorate.

You didn’t object when he withdrew the U.S. from the JCPOA, which was the first and ONLY treaty that’s successfully kept Iranian nuclear ambitions in check.

You didn’t object when he pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accords.

You didn’t object when he scuttled the Obama administration’s clean air and water standards.

You didn’t object when he opened up vast tracts of protected wilderness to his friends in the oil and mining industries.

You didn’t object to the myriad cases of violations of the emoluments clause.

You didn’t object when he mocked a disabled man at one of his rallies.

You didn’t object to the recently-discovered military stopovers at Trump properties in Scotland.

You didn’t object when after mass shooting after mass shooting, he wouldn’t lift a finger to protect even little school children from gun violence.

You didn’t object when he started putting tariffs on everyone from China to Turkey, which have undeniably hurt millions of people around the world and shaken the stock markets.

You didn’t object when he gave the corporate farming industry $26B in compensation for their losses due to his tariffs.

You didn’t object when he channeled $3.6B in Pentagon appropriations to his wall on the Mexican border.

You didn’t object when Trump called out against “Islamic terrorism” on multiple occasions, but never once for terrorism by white nationalists.

You didn’t object when he forcibly separated little children from their parents.

You didn’t object when he confined those children to chain-link paddocks.

You didn’t object when a whistleblower revealed the president had on multiple occasions said things that potentially undermined our nation’s safety and security.

You didn’t object when his personal lawyer, his personal consultant, and his army of sycophants at Fox News have repeatedly and consistently lied about ALL of the above for three excruciatingly long years.

So here’s my question for you: What about any of the above do you believe entitles you to the right to call yourselves “patriots?” In anything other than today’s bizarro-world, you wouldn’t even make the rank of American. When this nightmare ends, we’ll remind you of just how patriotic you were during these days. Your karma is gonna sting.

Handy to carry a copy in the wallet or purse in case of right-wing attack......

KY.........

renate

(13,776 posts)
17. This is so, so, so good
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:01 AM
Jan 2020

Simple, direct, factual.

Those last two paragraphs say so much.

Thank you so much for writing this. I hope it goes viral.

renate

(13,776 posts)
41. It's crazy that this is a year old and never went viral
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 01:29 AM
Jan 2020

It absolutely should have. It’s so brilliant. Maybe another go-round will do the trick.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
42. I've seen it posted on DU at least once before - possibly twice.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 01:37 AM
Jan 2020

I'm not on Facebook - but it may have made the rounds last year?

I agree, it deserves to go viral.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
28. honest assessment
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:22 AM
Jan 2020

This is the most honest assessment of this administration and republicans I've read yet. Thank you.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
29. Fuckheads see all of those horrible truths as proof of President Fuckhead's greatness
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:32 AM
Jan 2020

The impeached and credibly accused rapist Trump is an idiot racist fuckhead worshiped by a cult of idiot racist fuckheads.

That is the entirety of it. His fuckhead cultists are unworthy of empathy, outreach, or compassion. Fuck every last one of them.


And fuck every idiot racist fuckhead currently lurking here in search of fodder to post on their idiot racist fuckhead conservative circle jerk forums.


Every day that Fuckhead Trump doesn't suffer a massive, debilitating stroke is a day wasted.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,435 posts)
30. Someone needs to start a go fund me account so that
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:38 AM
Jan 2020

We collectively could raise the money to print this in a publication like USA Today,

I am reasonably certain they wouldn’t print it but it sure is fun to think of tens of thousands of deplorable’s heads exploding as they read it.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
31. Because Trumpers are supporting corruption
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:39 AM
Jan 2020

Donald Corruption Trump is the very definition of a corrupt politician.

DDySiegs

(253 posts)
32. Well Said, Heartstrings!
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:46 AM
Jan 2020

I especially congratulate you on your superb conclusion, which I quote:

“What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2020, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.

Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.”

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
45. Another tRump punchlist from April - How Bad Does It Have to Get?
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:12 AM
Jan 2020
How Bad Does It Have to Get?
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/04/27/how-bad-does-it-have-get

It’s bad enough that he lost the election by 3,000,000 popular votes.
It’s bad enough that the Russians helped him get elected by manipulating social media in critical electoral college states.
It’s bad enough that he helped the Russians do that by providing them confidential polling data to guide their Facebook ad targeting.
It’s bad enough that those ads were seen by more than 100,000,000 people when the total electoral college difference over three states was 70,000 votes.
It’s bad enough that those involved with his campaign who were also engaged with the Russians lied repeatedly, both publicly and under oath, about that engagement.
It’s bad enough that many tens of millions of dollars mysteriously disappeared from his inauguration committee, and he feels no compunction to explain where it went.
It’s bad enough that he brags about groping women and grabbing them by the pussy. Is there an honest woman in the country who admires that? Wants that?
It’s bad enough that he’s been credibly accused of sexual assault by more than 20 women.
It’s bad enough that he is an unindicted co-conspirator in the felony to commit election finance fraud by paying hush money to a Playboy bunny and a porn star.
It’s bad enough that he filed for bankruptcy six times, stiffing workers, contractors, and lenders for tens of millions of dollars.
It’s bad enough that his resorts and other properties for years hired undocumented aliens, even as he railed against a “tidal wave” of illegal immigrants.
It’s bad enough that he inherited $413,000,000 from his father, much of it through illegal tax dodges, but pretends to be a self-made man.
It’s bad enough that his “charitable” foundation was ordered shut down after having been revealed to be a sham, used to help promote his business and political interests.
It’s bad enough he claims he was a good student, but threatens to sue any schools that release his grades.
It’s bad enough he claims to be a brilliant businessman but refuses to release his taxes which would prove it. Or, disprove it.
It’s bad enough that he says the Mueller report “totally exonerates” him, yet refuses to allow it to be released, or, for critical witnesses to be able to testify about it.
It’s bad enough that he grossly understated the value of his assets to dodge taxes, while grossly overstating their value to secure bank loans.
It’s bad enough that the Mueller report detailed 10 instances of obstruction of justice that would be criminal, were he not the president and, so, immune from indictment.
It’s bad enough that he’s a pathological liar, telling almost 10,000 lies since assuming office, literally not being able to deal with reality.
It’s bad enough, his boot-licking of Putin at Helsinki, where he said he believed Putin about Russian interference in the 2016 election, but not his own intelligence chiefs.
It’s bad enough that he has separated thousands of immigrant children from their parents, put them in cages, and then lost track of them.
It’s bad enough that he praised neo-Nazi marchers in Charlottesville two years ago, then re-defended them just a few days ago.
It’s bad enough that, though sworn to ensure that the laws are faithfully executed, he told immigration officials to break the law, promising to pardon them if they were convicted.
It’s bad enough that he told senior White House aides to lie to the Mueller commission about his efforts to obstruct the same commission’s investigation.
It’s bad enough that he smeared a Gold Star Family whose son was killed in Iraq.
It’s bad enough that he repeatedly smeared bona-fide Vietnam war hero, John McCain, while he, himself, wrangled five draft deferments to dodge service in the same war.
It’s bad enough he promised to help the working man, but immediately passed a $1.5 trillion tax cut that went almost exclusively to corporations and the wealthy.
It’s bad enough he continues to claim he’s building The Wall when not a single inch of new wall has been built since he took office.
It’s bad enough he promised to protect Social Security but just two weeks ago submitted a budget that cuts benefits to millions, including seniors in poverty.
It’s bad enough that he refuses to cooperate with Congressional hearings, trashing the Constitution and the checks and balances at the very heart of our form of government.

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Some days it seems it's still getting worse.....

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
47. We must realize that many of these people aren't stupid but simply showing us who they really are
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 05:18 AM
Jan 2020

Hateful wretches that have no respect for anyone or anything. Anyone who has seen one of these trucks knows what I mean...

argyl

(3,064 posts)
50. Voting against their own interests make them stupid.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:52 AM
Jan 2020

Most of these examples show them as being vicious, racist, misogynistic assholes.

Upthevibe

(8,052 posts)
58. Please see their true response:
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jan 2020

"He doesn't kill little babies....(unless they're live babies at the border)…..and will appoint judges that won't kill babies...."

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
65. In my mom''s and sister's case..
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 01:52 PM
Jan 2020

They actually believe that partial birth abortion is a thing. And further believe that Democrats are for it and Trump and Republicans are against it. And apparently that trumps everything.

Glaisne

(515 posts)
66. That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors,
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jan 2020

and stiff his contractors, and stiff his employees, and stiff his customers, and stiff the government. The grifter and conman in chief.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
70. I've been here for a long time, and that is right up there with ...
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jan 2020

a couple of Nance Gregg rants as one of the best things I have ever read at DU.

Fan-fucking-tastic!



greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
74. Forgot a few
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 08:01 PM
Jan 2020

That when an American President's wife and daughters had to witness the disgraceful racist imagery of their grown husband and father standing before the world to respond to his birther lies by showing his birth certificate, you said "yeah, I'm okay with that".

That you are okay with that same racist liar NOT showing his tax returns, unlike all the previous Presidents before him going back 40 years.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
75. Some of them are as dumb as a box of rocks.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 09:31 PM
Jan 2020

The rest are evil fuckers and need to be dealt with accordingly.

Billions worldwide hate these fuckers as they endanger their very lives. They will make sure that they are dealt with accordingly.

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