Donald J. Trump is not at all well.

[MineralMan]

His word-slurring and odd pauses to breathe seem to me to indicate low oxygen levels in his bloodstream.

He very deliberately inhales forcefully through his nose to prevent the appearance of gasping for breath, but he is, in fact, gasping for breath.

I would not be surprised if he receives oxygen prior to such appearances. That could explain his lateness. He probably does not come out until his oxygen levels approach normal. I would also not be surprised if he leaves the room after speaking and immediately dons an oxygen mask.

He is a man with serious health issues.

[mikeysnot]

1. The more he attempts to cover his fuckups

the more he fucks up. He has never been well.

[ScratchCat]

2. It can't be just nervousness

No, there has to be something seriously wrong. This has gone on for too long and has clearly gotten "worse".

[MineralMan]

6. Yeah. I don't think it's nervousness, either.

I think he probably has this problem frequently. If you notice, in most cases, he speaks while sitting, as in remarks made with some other world leader beside him. Standing for long periods is very difficult for him, I believe.

Some sort of cardiac insufficiency is in play with Trump.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

14. Congestive Heart Failure....I know the symptoms.

My husband has it. He has to limit fluid consumption. No salt on anything. He often gasps for breath. Has to walk slower. Feels better when seated.

Also, medications to reduce BAD Cholesterol take its toll on overall heart health.

I on the other hand, have sped up my pace.

[MineralMan]

16. Yes. That's what I think, too.

It's not surprising, really, but I'm surprised he can speak that long, really. Like I said, I think he was breathing oxygen before the speech and immediately afterward, too. He can't keep that up for very long.

[HipChick]

24. He just reads off a teleprompter...

No thinking involved...

[MineralMan]

32. That's essential. When he speaks off the cuff,

he almost always goes way off the script. He's incapable of making sense off the top of his head. So, he gets scripted remarks and a teleprompter. He's really quite incompetent.

[pwb]

197. 80 billion dollars reward for his head could do it.

He is done traveling for the rest of his life because of his own doing..His whole family should feel the same... He is a coward snowflake wussy fake tough man and it is showing even more after this stupid mistake. I feel pretty good about trump getting what he gave so much of his life, he deserves it all.

[MFM008]

155. exactly

a bowl of salty tomato soup could send my mom to the hospital with CHF and COPD for a couple of days.

[dixiegrrrrl]

169. I heard some talk about his medications

a beta blocker was mentioned.

[backscatter712]

202. Not surprising. He's been tweaking so much on his Adderall his heart's probably about to explode.

And that latest series of pics with the impeachment bags under his eyes, like he's got two black eyes. I'll bet that thanks to his amphetamine habit, he hasn't slept a wink in two weeks...

[PatSeg]

35. I don't think so either

The heavy breathing was very noticeable and he slurred several words. It looked like it took great effort for him to stand there and talk that long. Also his pupils were dilated, but that tends to be common for him. He clearly is not well.

Meanwhile, the man behind him on the right looked very uncomfortable and concerned.

[Hortensis]

208. He's not hauling an oxygen tank around his golf courses

one out of 3 days. He's not super healthy, but what we saw wasn't advanced CHF. Maybe take a look at him at last night's rally.

Best guess 90% anxiety from a temporary but profound forced realization, against which he'd not yet restored his protections from reality, that he's not brilliant and not smarter than everyone else but instead did something incredibly stupid that may hurt him badly -- though he doesn't really understand why. Everyone was supposed to admire America's strong man, including the murderous strong-man dictators he admires.

Remember, the man has serious mental issues, and that almost certainly includes a strong personality disorder. Read about those some assign to a "cluster B." That would explain everything we're been witnessing all along. And move a miraculous recovery from debilitating lung disease in time for the rally way down the list of possibilities.

[PatSeg]

210. His recovery was rather surprising

Yesterday he was back to being his usual obnoxious, bellicose self. I still think he has some health issues, but that could be accompanied with psychological problems and probably too much self-medicating. His unscheduled trip to Walter Reed awhile back was also suspicious. Perhaps when he becomes overwhelmed, he has anxiety attacks that appear to look like a heart condition.

I have to wonder what he did to bounce back so quickly. Perhaps a sedative and a good night's sleep?

[Hortensis]

211. Agree. In addition, I'm guessing those rallies he loves are

a very restorative tonic of cheering crowds reflecting his own megalomaniacal image back at him.

[PatSeg]

212. Yes

Those awful rallies are like a tonic for him. I wonder how long he can sustain these highs.

[Hortensis]

213. Oh, me too. It must be a well-deserved hell for

the yes-men around him as they wince at constant new realities threatening to crash those highs.

[PatSeg]

214. Oh, I cannot even begin

to imagine it. I suppose in the beginning, it was just a little compromise here and there. Then one day they woke up and realized how deep in the crap they were and they couldn't see a way out. Definitely a well-deserved hell. Though, I'm sure there were many opportunities to say, "no" and walk away.

[Zoonart]

37. Congestive heart failure.

I have seen this play out in my own life. I think that the reason he now takes most of his meetings in the residence is that he has an oxygen unit.

[captain queeg]

187. Yeah I've wondered about that

He stands and talks for a long time. Of course he doesn’t make much sense but his minions eat it up. Maybe being surrounded by an adoring crowd revs his system up.

[Kali]

50. except at his nazi rallies.

he stands and spews for hours.

[MineralMan]

53. That's a good point. I don't have an answer for that.

[Pacifist Patriot]

145. Drug cocktails and endorphins

[3catwoman3]

101. Adrenalin rush that he gets from all that adoration...

...makes him feel better -fight-or-flight mode. Probably some endorphin release, too.

[paleotn]

127. Probably the case

People seem to always find the energy to do the things they enjoy even if they’re in terrible health. And at rallies, he can slur his words all he likes. He makes no damn sense anyway just like his nazi followers.

[NJCher]

179. he does slur his words at rallies

I've noted that before.

[3Hotdogs]

128. But does an adrenalin pump-up last for four hours?

[3catwoman3]

154. Good question, and I don't know.

If he is engaging in a 3 hour rant at one of his stupid rallies, maybe.

[mcar]

121. Steroids?

[azureblue]

220. repeat loudly - Adderall addiction *********************

Don snorts Adderall. He's been an Adderall addict for decades. That is why he snorts and sniffles- to get the powder back up into his sinuses - just like a meth or coke head. That is what his speeches are so out there - he snorts Adderall before his public appearances, but the problem for him is that his brain is fried from over use and abuse. So he snorts but doesn't make any sense and he is lost in his own little fantasy megalomaniac world where he is king and can say and do as he pleases and he thinks everybody will believe his rants.

Look at his tweet cycle - at the end of his "day" he goes to his residence, eats supper and snorts Adderall, which keep him awake all hours, so he tweets whatever floats through his brain. Just like the coke head that scores an eigth and sits up all night scribbling crazy stuff, snorts more, scribbles more, etc..

What I don't understand is that it is so freaking obvious. Jeez! I mean look at him during the debates - he was so wired I thought he was going to vibrate off the stage. And no one has said much of anything about it. Don is a burned out druggie. Period. Put him in a 72 psych eval, then into rehab, and remove him from office due to mental incapacity.

Impeachment will not get him out of office. Drug abuse will. The evidence is right there. Drag his wired up butt out of the White House.

[sacto95834]

150. This is why I don't think he's physically sick...

He couldn't stand that long and make incoherent statements. He's supposed to have another Rally. We'll see if he has problems.

Mentally, yes. I think Orange has lots of issues.

[fwvinson]

174. Could involve drugs

You know there are alot of medications that can pep a fella up.

[Marie Marie]

201. Exactly. You don't see these things (gasping for air, protruding tongue, sniffing, etc)

when he is winging his spewing of hatred and lies during his rallies. It is so different when he has to read a speech, filled with words written by others that do not match his own beliefs. There is something else going on here.

[usaf-vet]

74. How can that be true he has had at least two "clean bill of health reports" from WH doctors.

Surely they wouldn't mislead the American people.

[jcgoldie]

98. I'm pretty sure the wh doctor talking about his amazing health is no different than...

...the white house spokesman a couple weeks ago talking about his tremendous intellect.

[BigmanPigman]

95. Could that be from being tranquilized?

When I heard him I thought that is how he seemed.

[still_one]

3. I suspect they doped him up in hopes that it would curb hum from escalating the situation

[MineralMan]

8. No doubt he is on some medications. That's not surprising at all.

[bdamomma]

89. some medications

or many medications?

[MineralMan]

92. Well, many, then. OK.

[bucolic_frolic]

159. Yes, I think that too ... he is being controlled

maybe we should be happy, it's better than Trump uncontrolled

[Ilsa]

4. The walk into the room taxed his heart, he's so badly out of shape.

He was gasping for breath after almost every word.

I bet he collapsed onto a couch as soon as he returned to the room away from cameras.

[moonscape]

26. How does he manage to stand and

rant at his rallies for sometimes 2 hours?

[PatSeg]

39. He self medicates

Adderall seems to be his drug of choice. Apparently he has used it for years.

[womanofthehills]

141. Newsweek article on Trump and Adderall

Actor and comedian Tom Arnold accused President Donald Trump of previously abusing Adderall on the set of NBC's The Apprentice.

"Donald Trump abused Adderall on the set & it made him crazy. He even snorted Adderall. Mark Burnett knew it. It's scary," he wrote in a tweet, accusing The Apprentice creator of knowing that the president took the attention deficit hyperactivity disorder drug.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-snorted-adderall-apprentice-tom-arnold-noel-casler-1257787

Comedian Noel Caster who worked on Apprentice with Trump for 6 yrs - start at 3:28 - goes into Trump snorting Adderall toward end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=391&v=T9afSmPEQDo&feature=emb_logo

[PatSeg]

151. I just heard that Caster interview yesterday

and it appears that his drug usage has always been worse than most people realized. We have every reason to be scared.

[oldsoftie]

200. I cant believe someone like trump would do that where anyone could see it.

His whole public life he's railed against smoking, drugs & drinking; saying he'd never done any of those things & he always insisted his kids didnt. And never saw any of his kids in the tabloids doing anything either. And no one from his past ever called him out on it. Being like that, if he WAS doing something he would certainly have been doing it hidden from ANYONES eyes.
I just think he's a doddering old fool and its showing more every day

[Captain Zero]

44. Pharmaceuticals. For that too.

nt

[Frustratedlady]

57. How can he play golf for hours?

Granted, he's on a cart, but he still has to walk to the hole.

I think he was more breathless today than normal. He knows Iran has the lawnmower and he's the grass.

[MineralMan]

69. There was a story from the golf course. Apparently the cart

drives right up to the ball, even on the greens, which is against the rules at most courses.

Also, you might notice that we never see video of him out on the course.

[cwydro]

71. Yeah, I remember that.

Really amazing he’s still upright.

[DinahMoeHum]

96. Here's a YouTube on it. . .from a Twitter account. . .

[Frustratedlady]

109. That's true. I've only seen him in the rough.

Even though he owns the course, you'd think he wouldn't want to rut the greens. He might not count all his strokes, but being on the green in plain sight he'd almost have to. I suppose the ruts would give him an excuse for a bad shot.

I can't imagine being so thoughtless, entitled and selfish to conduct your life in such a way when most humans around you are following the rules.

Donald Jr. seems to be following his ol' man pretty closely with these traits.

[lastlib]

190. (turd doesn't fall far from the asshole......) eom

[defacto7]

73. I don't think he is necessarily playing.

They can use old footage, he can pose, he only has to give the impression he's playing.

[Delmette2.0]

78. And he does not use the big flight of stairs into Airforce 1.

There is a short staircase at the side or back of the plane.

We only see him coming down the tall stairs.

[moonscape]

113. Additionally, I remember a story about

a quirky fear of stairs. Wonder if that was true?

[bdamomma]

157. Apparently

that is true, at one meeting in the UK (before he cast our allies aside) he was in arm and arm with Theresa May going down some stairs.

Who can forget how tRump's predecessor used to fly down the stairs of AF1, he was like a prizefighter.

[Mopar151]

175. Visceral fat

So much, it's crowding his lungs

[llmart]

5. "He is a man with serious health issues."

He is a man with serious mental health issues also.

Either way, I really don't care, do u?

[MineralMan]

11. I do care, because the man is President.

I think he's running on Empty. Soon, the tank will go dry for him.

[PJMcK]

58. Can't be soon enough (n/t)

[Pacifist Patriot]

144. Amen

[Boomerproud]

34. I couldn't care less about him as a person but

he and his henchmen want all of us to be adversely affected by him. It's been happening for 3 1/2 years.

[47of74]

64. Yeah I don't.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

7. The demarcation where the spray tan stops is distracting.

My view, from the WaPo link, shows the right hand side of his face. I can easily see, even on a workplace monitor, where the spray tan stops. The effect is less pronounced this morning than it was a few days ago, but the border stands out.

Is This an Authentic Photograph of Trump?

Link to tweet

On the bright side, it is Obama's fault.

[MineralMan]

9. I think the spray tan is to hide his pallor.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

12. When he turns to his left at the conclusion of his delivery, you get a clear view of the line. NT

[MineralMan]

13. I didn't notice that. Very sloppy makeup routine, if true.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

18. Look at his right temple.

You see the makeup line. He is white as a sheet. That stems from low iron in the blood. He could also be Anemic. That explains too the tiredness, the gasping for air.

[jcgoldie]

91. You all have stronger stomachs than me

I look at 2 pictures of that fake asshole and I'm repulsed.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

18. Look at his right temple.

You see the makeup line. He is white as a sheet. That stems from low iron in the blood. He could also be Anemic. That explains too the tiredness, the gasping for air.

[PatSeg]

42. I watched it up close

and his bronzer was applied very unevenly.

[guillaumeb]

10. He is very obese, and has a poor diet.

Is this really surprising? But like Reagan before him, Trump is protected by the sycophants around him.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

15. High in BAD fats, salt....

Trump is not one to take any advice. This lifestyle will get to him as the year progresses. We will see more huffing and puffing.

[guillaumeb]

22. True. His diet is terrible.

And he is under stress. Self-caused, but still stressful.

[PatSeg]

45. Yes

Add stress to poor diet, little sleep, his age, and excessive weight, he is a ticking time bomb. I don't know how he's lasted as long as he has.

[Shipwack]

120. Only the good die Young... Nt

[47of74]

218. Sure seems like it

The best and brightest go early while malignant fucks like the orange butt plug and Pat Robertson are still here.

[backscatter712]

221. That's what Lewis Black says - the good die young, but pricks live forever.

[maddiemom]

137. But HILLARY...

almost fainted once during the campaign!

[PatSeg]

138. And what is remarkable is

she is still alive!!! How on earth is that possible?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

17. Weight is not an indicator of health.

[guillaumeb]

21. True.

I am 170 pounds at 5'8", and that makes me technically over weight. I run every day, and lift weights, and fit easily in 32" waist pants.

But Trump is clearly obese.

And he is clearly in poor health.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

30. Having plenty of lean Body Mass

Is a better indicator of health. Muscle and bone are denser than body fat. The ratio of Lean Body Mass to Body fat, indicates body composition.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

46. Obesity is also not an indicator of poor health.

His shortness of breath and verbal tics can be. Weight is not, even obesity.

[47of74]

219. By itself maybe not

But it doesn’t help. I lost over 100 pounds and I’m much healthier now then I was before.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

28. No, it is not.

I am 5 to 7 pounds under my Weight Watchers goal. I keep active for going on 68.

The numbers I live by are my AIC, Cholesterol(Blood Lipids), BP, Glucose.
My LDLs are a tad high, but my HDLs are in the 80's and Triglycerides in the 70's, which is excellent.
Blood Pressure ranges in the one-teens over 68. Blood Glucose in the low 90s on a regular basis. Low AIC.

I suspect Trump's numbers are off the chart.

[Johnny2X2X]

20. He's definitely out of breath

Occasionally I'll run up a couple flights of stairs and then have a conversation and find myself doing the same types of breathing while speaking. He looks awful and congestive heart failure is likely.

[PatSeg]

52. I have breathing problems

That is how I would sound if I couldn't get my breath. It is hard to speak a complete sentence.

[True Blue American]

66. COPD?

A friend died from it last year. In his 60’s. Heavy smoker.

Another is now on Oxygen. She never smoked.

[PatSeg]

99. Yes and asthma

It hits the worst in winter. If I'm under any kind of stress, it is very hard to talk. Just watching him try to speak made me a bit anxious.

[True Blue American]

112. I am sorry

To hear that. It is awful to try and breath. I have seasonal allergies. That is bad enough. The cold affects me, too. Electric mattress pad is great!

Neuropathy is my problem. The reason I exercise in the Y pool.

But for Trump I think drugs are his big problem. Something happened they rushed him to the hospital. He seems to be going down hill rapidly.

[dewsgirl]

23. Adderall causes your heart to race in high quantities, also shortness

of breath. So I imagine after railing Adderall all night, with very little to no sleep this makes sense.

[smirkymonkey]

164. He already has hypertension and Adderall causes your blood pressure to rise on top of that.

He's been on it for decades. That, in addition to his high-fat, high-salt diet, Diet Coke addiction and lack of exercise would make one think that he's not long for this world.

[dewsgirl]

167. After this morning, it looks like perhaps it's taking its toll.

How he has hung on this long, is beyond me.

[Vinca]

25. He appeared to be drugged up more than usual today.

[Recursion]

27. He's also sunsetting

Notice that he's only trotted out in the morning or early afternoon.

[irisblue]

29. I firmly believe he has some form of dementia and is having TIAs

Tom Joseph (@TomJChicago) Tweeted:
Trump is a neurological nightmare struggling at the podium. Words like “tolerated” & “accomplishment” are unpronounceable, although “a compliment” revealed his inner desire. The protruding tongue appears- completely expected now. Pack him up- head to the Mayo Clinic neurological https://t.co/5d5jtsEdlK

Link to tweet

[sprinkleeninow]

126. Now needing to make a pharmacy run for some anti-puke meds after viewing this. n/t

[hatrack]

204. Why does he have the Kidalert figure painted on his right cheek?

Just asking . . .

[irisblue]

205. No TV, so can you post that image of him with that so I can reply. Thx

[duforsure]

31. We're watching his mental and physical breakdown

Real time , while republicans are allowing this nightmare to continue. He will not be able to get to the 2020 election without something major happening to him. He is not well at all, and its showing more every day.

[MineralMan]

33. Well, I think he has probably served his purpose at this point.

He is just about redundant now.

[PatrickforO]

43. Yes, but for a majority in the House, and the fact our institutions seem to be

holding, the coup would have been successful.

As it is, if we are extremely lucky and extremely wise, we will find a way to restore our republic, but in a way that reflects what it should be, a way that reflects the nobleness of which we humans are capable.

Or not. In which case we're on the way to a bloodbath.

[ScratchCat]

47. I think the GOP has a three-pronged plan

When it comes to the 2020 election.

1 - Secretly hope Trump can't make it, get someone else.

2- If Trump makes in and loses, he resigns and Pence pardons him.

3- If Trump makes it and wins, he resigns due to health reasons and Pence pardons him just in case.

That's probably how they see it right now. There may be a contingency trying to convince his family to get him to sit down, but their criminal exposure probably worries the family too so who knows if they would get him to quit if they didn't have assurances they wouldn't face charges on other Trump Co. matters.

[CrispyQ]

124. #3 is what they really want. And what I fear most.

Four years of Pence will be a nightmare. Especially built on the destruction that the Con has already done. Otherwise, I don't fear Pence, much. I don't think he'd be able to win their primary. But if he can sneak into the presidency on the Con's coattails, the dominionists might win this battle.

[Maeve]

161. We'll impeach Pence faster than we impeached tRump

There should already be a file started

[rusty fender]

142. And my speculation, furthering this scenario--

if Trumpass makes it to the election and ‘wins’ via the electoral college again, but resigns due to health reasons; Pence becomes POTUS, Pompeo maneuvers himself into the VP slot, and, Pompeo engineers Pence’s resignation or impeachment/removal.

Pompeo, who is the smart dominionist, becomes POTUS: destruction of the world begins in order to hasten the rapture.

Jeebus!

[cactusfractal]

173. Hallelujah

[Cartoonist]

36. Doesn't he see that himself?

Can't he see that the job is killing him?

[PatrickforO]

38. Perhaps the health of his body reflects the condition of his soul. n/t

[sprinkleeninow]

130. In contemplation of that, SCARY! n/t

[dalton99a]

40. Nice makeup job

[BillyBobBrilliant]

41. If he's gonna die

At least let him do it live on TV. The ultimate final episode of the reality show from HEll.

[TNNurse]

49. If only.

[Southern Blueneck]

65. I hope he keeps eating that junk food!

The more, the better.

[Zolorp]

48. God Bless the general that convinced him looking weak was better than being a madman.

Millions of lives were saved by whomsoever convinced him to not start throwing military hardware at Iran.

[gab13by13]

79. The general's name was Putin.

[Farmer-Rick]

168. So right

[icymist]

51. I agree that his health is failing.

When he came on I wasn't watching the television screen, just listening. What I heard was someone gasping for breath.

[RazBerryBeret]

177. Totally Agree

I listened to it on headphones at work.... so I wasn't distracted by the visual mess. I was surprised it was so bad with the heavy breathing and the lazy pronunciations.

[octoberlib]

54. Trump's a drug addict.

Link to tweet

Trump is on drugs, whether we want to face it or not, he is an Adderall addict and has been addicted to speed for decades. Benzo’s figure in as well as the UK Sudafed he takes to control those sniffles and for the buzz. This was NO secret in TV Production.
@realDonaldTrump

[Beryllinthranox]

55. It's a very taxing job.

Obama aged horribly in just 8 years. Not typical for a black man at his age.

[OliverQ]

77. Obama actually worked.

Trump has spent an entire year literally on the golf course and the other 2 years worth watching TV and tweeting.

What does he do that's so taxing?

[Pluvious]

132. Raging on Twitter. It's Hard Work. (n/t)

[mr_lebowski]

105. He aged seemingly a bit more than usual for 8 years, but I wouldn't say 'horribly' ...

I would argue he aged quite well, in fact, if we're talking about looks.

[lunatica]

135. Getting gray hair is "aging horribly"?

How old are you? 10?

[smirkymonkey]

165. And Obama was in great shape.

The job takes a toll on even the healthiest of individuals.

[mudstump]

56. He's a druggy.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

59. Could it be maybe that HE CAN'T read? Just thought of that.

So many have attested to that on his staff.

Maybe it explains the utter teleprompter breakdowns and awkward cadence.

[True Blue American]

72. Many who have

Short term dementia can not read. He has trouble reading the TelePrompter.

Wonder how he will do now that he is really going to Toledo?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

123. Not sure about "many". Agree no retention. There

Are lots of theories why he does so poorly on teleprompter.

Dyslexia

Cognitive impairment/dementia

Doesn't/can't read - learning disability

Someone else's words - so doesn't care and doesn't practice
He lacks the discipline to write the underlying speech. People who do write, write in complete sentences with proper syntax. Trump does not speak that way.

[True Blue American]

139. Right on all ideas.

He has to force himself to show emotions.

What I do not understand is why the writer allowed him to lie 3 times in one short speech.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

60. Contemplating exit strategies from the room.

Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted

Same energy.

Link to tweet

Contemplating exit strategies from the room.

Link to tweet

It seems like he’s having trouble getting his face paint on right. Doesn’t it look patchy and uneven?

Link to tweet

Accelerating. Hair too, unkempt.
He's been looking like a neglected nursing home patient for weeks now. Not sure how much longer they can keep up this Weekend at Bernie's charade.

Link to tweet

[flying rabbit]

178. Hee Hee! +1 NT

[napi21]

61. When he first appeared on my TV, I said "Why the hell is he so out of breath? He doesn't

have more than a few feet to walk to the front of the WH!" Then I remembered when I woke up one morning and couldn't breathe well. I went to the ER and during my 3 day stay there, they found low oxygen in my blood, out of kilter electrolites, apparent heart failure. I was put on meds, oxygen, & IV's. I'm still on some meds but fairly healthy

That was 1 1/2 years ago. If he doesn't get necessary care, he could get much worse very quickly!

[Pepsidog]

62. He is an evil person and I am getting concerned by the number of people I know who support Trump. I

am a trial attorney and I am repulsed sitting around court hearing my fellow attorneys talking about how they support him. It’s hard to believe that many of these people i have known for years support him. One lawyer was telling his client about the stock market gains and how that trickles down to stimulate the economy. What rubbish. Kind of reminds me of 2016 when I saw many Trump lawn signs and few Hillary signs.

[mahina]

110. Where are you located

If you don’t mind?

I’m curious to learn how they came to feel this way

[mahatmakanejeeves]

63. Trump did not sound well while making that speech. Something was very off.

Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted

I don’t say this to score political points (this moment is too serious for that) but...Trump did not sound well while making that speech. Something was very off.

Link to tweet

I hope it's nothing minor.

Link to tweet

[MineralMan]

67. Yes, it was quite obvious.

None of the media people ever mention it, though, which seems odd to me.

[USALiberal]

117. Maybe because there is nothing wrong. Nt

[90-percent]

68. He is transforming into

Dennis Hopper's character Frank Booth in David Lynch's mid eighties move "Blue Velvet".

-90% Jimmy

[MineralMan]

70. Good catch.

[The Genealogist]

75. One cannot eat the diet he does, fail to exercise, and deal with the stresses of the presidency

all while remaining healthy at that age. The signs point to cardiovascular health issues, I'd guess. No telling what else is wrong with him phsycially. And mentally, dont get me started. He must be a walking health time bomb just waiting to go off.

[Traildogbob]

76. Weekend at GOP

The republican criminals will pop him up in a seat until death just to continue to get his cult support while theY fuck us behind closed doors. He is a useful puppet not only for Putin, but also the entire GOP. That is how sick the entire GOP is. Zero democracy. Soon, he will be the voice behind the curtain. And saddest part, one third of this ignorant nation will continue to rabidly follow and bow to a recorded voice slamming the "Democrat" party. While consuming poison, losing health care and going into poverty. But, they can use the "N" word, say Merry Christmas and own lid tards. I am a vet from Vietnam era. I will NOT stand for the anthem, salute anything, or even recognize the flag until the Russian GOP in gone. At this minute, America sucks for allowing this to happen. Fuck banning Muslims, ban billionaire Austrailans and deport those that are here. That is our downfall. And not another word about the 600 killed by the Iran General as reason to assassinate, go after the one that has killed 6,000 plus in Irag while acquiring imence wealth. Cheney et al, are the enemy. Those dead soldiers are gone for nothing, Iraq will never trust us again. Like they want OUR style of government.

[CrispyQ]

134. Your assessment is spot on.

Sticking it to the libs is a huge part of their agenda. Rush told them so. Ignoring hate radio is the stupidest thing the dems/left ever did and we still do. WTF?

[Duppers]

189. You do know them well. nt

👍

[CloudWatcher]

80. I am stunned.

I am honestly shocked that anyone can watch this guy. Every time I see his image or hear him speak, it's like a trigger has gone off and I'm in full fight-or-flight mode. That someone (many people I guess) can watch him and notice changes in his behavior is equivalent to a super-power as far as I'm concerned.

So ... thank you for your observations. I hope it doesn't trigger PTSD later

[MineralMan]

83. It's all history in the making. I watch because of that.

I don't want to miss some important event.

[EveHammond13]

81. his nose is running from habitual snorting of crushed up Adderall

[Martin Eden]

82. He is a man with serious MENTAL health issues.

He has to be removed from office, but would the actions of Theocrat Pence be any better?

[lark]

84. Mental as well as physical deterioration was very obvious.

His make up was so hastily and clumsily applied that he looked like a freaking clown! Also, there was a huge streak on one of his cheeks, not matched on the other side. For a person this famously vainglorious to make a major speech looking like that - something is seriously serious wrong. OMG. He looked like Bernie in Weekend at Bernies - plus makeup.

Then, of course, as you discussed, there was his manner of speaking. He sounded about as alive as the aforementioned Bernie, a severe lack of oxygen could certainly cause that weak gasping wooden breathy way of speaking. The idiocy and dementia have been obvious for awhile, but this disarray is new and, I agree, a serious development.

[SaschaHM]

85. No wonder he didn't speak last night.

I imagine that his state was even worse then.

[The Blue Flower]

86. Satan will claim his own at the appropriate time

Too bad if the lying traitor can't breathe well enough to keep lying in the meantime. Wastes less O2 that way.

[bdamomma]

87. serious health issues

I just hope they escalate.

[BamaRefugee]

88. Don't hold your breath waiting for him to keel over. Trump is the human equivalent of the apocryphal

cockroaches that will survive a nuclear Armageddon.
He'll be here long after most of us are gone.
And furiously appointing absolutely heinous people to lifetime positions so that he can continue to fuck with us even after he DOES go to Hell.

[another]

90. He just can't read well.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

93. We've never gotten a satisfactory answer why he was rushed to the hospital,

especially since the president's personal physician was riding in the same limo as Trump, which just isn't done.

It isn't the first time a president's ill health has been covered up, or at least minimized, during their presidency. FDR had polio, for example, but it wasn't a big issue because we was smart, ethical, and an excellent leader with a clear vision for the country that benefited most of the population. He was a comforting presence in a war that he didn't start.

Can you imagine Fat Donnie holding a fireside chat?

[MineralMan]

94. Nor will we.

Just saying...

[JoeOtterbein]

97. Trump has a serious...

...cocaine problem!

[mahatmakanejeeves]

100. For those who missed it, watch the Joint Chiefs faces when he mentions hypersonic weapons

For those who missed it, watch the Joint Chiefs faces when he mentions hypersonic weapons

Link to tweet

Trump: "Our missiles are big, powerful, accurate, lethal and fast. … The fact that we have this great military equipment, however, does not mean we have to use it. We do not want to use it."

Link to tweet

[MineralMan]

104. Yes, I caught that, but I thought he was confused and referring to the Russian

hypersonic missiles. Who knows? He worships Putin, so maybe he was projecting.

[True Blue American]

122. Trump is giving away Military secrets with his constant boasting.

[Botany]

102. Donald Trump last Saturday or Sunday

Link to tweet

That is not a healthy man.

[Tikki]

103. Maybe that is why he is shoving ivanka out on stage in different places..

hoping if he croaks she might legacy for him, have a chance at something, anything.

Tikki

[nolabear]

106. Numerous remarks on Twitter about his tongue being blue.

Nothing like a little cyanosis to perk up a guy.

[C_U_L8R]

107. Pepto Bismol tongue?

That guy is literally heartburn

[MadMike47]

108. Hoping he keels over soon.

into a steaming pile of horseshit.

[njhoneybadger]

111. I know people who act like this. They are usually taking handfuls of Percocet

[link:http://Acetaminophen / Oxycodone, Brand name: Percocet, Narcotic, It can treat moderate to moderately severe pain. Controlled substance High risk for addiction and dependence. Can cause respiratory distress and death when taken in high doses.

He's is absolutely doped up at his rallys.

[CrispyQ]

114. Good. I hope he has the ultimate Big Mac attack. And the sooner the better.

The best thing for the country is for him to die of natural causes while still in office. I know the right wing nut jobs will come up with conspiracy theories that will blame Obama/Clinton/the left, but I still think it would be the best way to end this horrid presidency. Pence can't even win their primary. We would be back to Marco, Ted, and Mitt, and maybe some new right wing nut jobs like Gym.

[USALiberal]

115. I love the weekly DU doctors diagnoses. Nt

[Turin_C3PO]

149. Well, something is wrong.

It’s obvious and many, many people have commented on it, most not on DU.

[SMC22307]

172. Agree. He always sounds this way at his "presidential" addresses...

then lets fly at his rallies. People are so focused on the damn sniffing, are they even listening to the words coming out of his mouth? The attacks on the previous administration and how their dealings supposedly made us less safe? Dems need to get it together to combat these attacks and stop focusing on fucking man-boobs and dry mouth.

[awesomerwb1]

116. I don't know

He definitely sounds weird sometimes but if the guy's as sick as some make him out to be, he wouldn't be able to golf at all, or stand for 1 hour plus at his rallies.

Unfortunately, I don't think his health is as poor as a lot of dems/lefties etc seem to believe or want to believe. Big emphasis on unfortunately because being the bad person that I am, I wouldn't mind one bit if he keeled over during one of his bullcrap speeches asap.

[Chakaconcarne]

118. Interesting....

Wonder how the State of the Union will go...

Also, he has stated he won't partake in debates...

[mcar]

119. I only heard a few seconds of it on the radio

But that was the first thing that struck me. COPD, perhaps? He sounded like my MIL when she was experiencing congestive heart failure.

[TNNurse]

125. I rarely listen to his voice

but did catch a few seconds while changing channels. Monotone voice and flat affect seem to be worse than usual. He sounded and looked like someone who was on medication that had sedating effects.

My mother had a major psychiatric depression and lived for years on Elavil. She then developed the type of Parkinson's that slows your movements, steals your voice and makes you unable to show emotions or any facial expression. He is not that bad now, but it brought back memories.

[bitterross]

129. I'm almost ashamed of myself for hoping his health issues have consequences soon.

Very, very soon. Just "almost" ashamed. Not really though. He's such a horrible psychopath.

Pence is not very likable at all. If Trump drops dead (his own doing really, if it happens), I don't think Pence can get elected.

[evertonfc]

131. man boobs

His diet has caused immense body fat with estrogen increased man bombs. We were just talking lking about it at gym.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

133. OT - All the sniffs from today.

Hat tip, commenter Уильям at Joe.My.God:

Senate Dems Break With Pelosi On Holding Articles
January 8, 2020
....

Уильям • 9 minutes ago
OT - All the sniffs from today.

58 times. He sniffed 58 times during his address. Here are all of them.

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

136. I noticed that also

[Initech]

140. Yeah there is something that they are not telling us about him.

He is not at all fit to be Commander In Chief - physically or mentally. Physically he looks like a walking heart attack waiting to happen, and given his fast food diet that may happen sooner than later. Mentally he can barely form a coherent sentence and misspells words constantly.

The only ones who still think that are the MAGA morons. This is a great example they're setting.

[enid602]

143. Pootie

Maybe Pootie threatened to pull the plug on his loans if Donnie refused to back down.

[The Figment]

146. I have COPD and Congestive Heart Failure...

Deep breathing through one's nose is the best way to get/keep o2 in your bloodstream, oxygen passes into your bloodstream faster through your sinuses.
Standing for long periods is a PITA,as is speaking for long periods.
Look at the way Cheetolini walks...slow deliberate steps, no long flights of steps, no long walks,(like when he is golfing) low activelity level ect.

He probably won't live too much longer.

[Talitha]

147. Heavy laboured breathing... could he also be wearing an overtight girdle?

Constricting that bay window of his will definitely make him gasp like a Carp.

[malaise]

148. Please don't tease me

That is all

[dlk]

152. Having an $80 million bounty on his head probably hasn't helped

[Upthevibe]

153. I completely agree with you that something is

really wrong. For a while I've been thinking Dementia/Alzheimer's. However, after reading what folks here have posted, I'm inclined to believe that Congestive Heart Failure is probably what's going on. After seeing him this morning a whole hell of a lot of red flags went up. I mean there's "dt's not right" and there's "Man, dt's NOT right."

[lunasun]

156. Or just on drugs. People addicted to drugs often look unhealthy and have health problems from drugs

[bucolic_frolic]

158. Yes, they pump him up just to keep the charade going and inflict their sadistic agenda on America

So who is doing this? Stephen Miller?

Did Pompeo build an ark yet?

[House of Roberts]

160. Apparently this has to do with why Pence is giving that Iran policy speech upcoming.

He may not be doing many more marathon rally speeches.

[spanone]

162. and apparantly, it's none of our business.

[warmfeet]

163. I will not be sad to see him go.

Regardless of cause.

[lillypaddle]

166. I think he is fucked up on something

Sure has a dry mouth. I use oxygen. Usually my levels go up within seconds, it is the ability to "hold the charge" though, if you know what I mean. They can drop again quite quickly. But I think he's drugged.

[BunnyMcGee]

170. Maybe...

The 'stupid' is weighing on his chest?

Let's hope.

[Skittles]

171. not serious enough

[BootinUp]

182. K&R

[Eliot Rosewater]

176. Add to it 5 minutes before going out Jared told him what Putin's orders were

as we all know Jared ADMITTED to having a back channel to the KGB, uh I mean russians.

Rump will do what Putin tells him or Putin will shoot down a few more airplanes like he did yesterday. Not that rump cares about people.

[live love laugh]

180. Hopeful wishing IMHO -- sadly he's fine and

speculation is fruitless.

[cwydro]

198. I don't think he's healthy by any means, but you're right about the speculation. Useless.

People have been predicting his demise for years now.

And he’s still here.

[Blue_true]

181. He is crazier than a drunken sewer rat.

That isn't a question. The problem is that the Press and a good slice of Americans have their heads shoved deep up their asses.

[C Moon]

183. If that's the case, we'll find out during the debates. If he refuses to debate, than you are correct

I kind of think it's anti-anxiety meds. The cotton mouth, the slurry...

[pbmus]

184. He is an adderralled bully...with pilot fish swimming around his bloated orange body

[keithbvadu2]

185. #SniffyMcAdderall is trending on Twitter.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212855445

[Fla Dem]

186. Well we've been saying similar things for 3 years

but he’s still there.

[onenote]

215. +1

Hell, I can remember DU posts that predicted he would drop dead of a heart attack before the election.

[raccoon]

188. If what you say is true, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is,

If what you say is true, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it is, Then what’s going on with him could be considered elder abuse.

He should be allowed to resign and get some medical help instead of being propped up and drugged to the gills to be At least the acting leader of the country.

But that ain’t going to happen.

[DeminPennswoods]

191. His make-up job has gotten worse, that's for sure

I tend to tune out or hit mute when Trump talks, but yesterday was the first time I really noticed that Trump's make-up doesn't cover his entire face. It's missing from around his ears and behind his jaw line and around his eye sockets. It looked sort of like he was wearing an orange mask. Weird.

[MFM008]

192. Let me know when he is

Laying in State......

[Captain Zero]

193. I think in tough times he goes back on psychotropic/neuroleptic medications then Tardive Dyskinesia

Movement disorders - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic

https://www.mayoclinic.org › symptoms-causes › syc-20363893
Oct 19, 2017 - Tardive dyskinesia. This neurological condition is caused by long-term use of certain drugs used to treat psychiatric conditions (neuroleptic drugs). Tardive dyskinesia causes repetitive and involuntary movements such as grimacing, eye blinking and other movements.

Once an individual has TD it is always present although not noticeable sometimes, if the individual goes off the medication that originally caused it, but then, if the individual begins the medication again for moments of crisis the TD shows up quickly in spades.

[MineralMan]

194. Tongue Thrusting is a Tardive Dyskinesia Symptom

Yes. He does that all the time.

Interesting, for sure.

Time for Trump's Thorazine (generic: chlorpromazine) shot again...

[treefarmers]

195. Playing Golf

You would think with all of his playing golf that keeps him in shape! lol

[MineralMan]

196. It might, if he walked. But he drives the cart right up to the ball.

Then he gets out, takes a swing, and gets back on the cart.

[oldsoftie]

199. But if that was the case he wouldnt be able to do those long rallies.

Those are a lot more taxing than a short speech for the press

[kairos12]

203. I think he departs the room for 2 things: talk to Putin and get knee deep in Big Macs.

[YOHABLO]

206. A lot of speculation on his ''health'' of which I do not care.

He's still the President, and he's still tearing this country apart, with the help of his ''friends'' over at FAUX news, Mitch McConnell, and Bill Barr.

[mdbl]

207. Maybe there is a God after all?

Ah who am I kidding LOL.

[greymattermom]

209. When he is at his rallies, that's the best he can do.

So look for changes in those. Recently I see him holding onto the podium with his left hand most of the time, and I don't think he used to do that. Also, there are sometimes odd jerky body movements. Does he walk up the stairs to get to the stage? What do other folks see?

[onenote]

216. we see Trump in still photos and television video

There are plenty of folks who see him up close and personal. Folks like Schumer and Pelosi. Others who meet with him. If he was as deathly ill as some here think, you would expect some of these people, possibly anonymously, to be leaking information about how sick he appears up close.

I'm not suggesting that he's as healthy as his medical reports claim, but I don't think he's as sick (physically, not mentally) as many here assume.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

217. He was not in a position to obtain gratification

in a Trumpian grandiose way about it , in other words he could not maga that one . Trump never came out of campaign mode because he
he cannot. He I think was displaying discomfort because he couldn't say what ever he wanted to say. Appearing to be ill, sure, gain support of his defenders, they will blame democrats for stressing Trump out. How they are going to prep him up for the debate stage is beyond me. He's got nothing, just nothing, facial expressions is about all he's got. Actually his limited acting abilities is nothing more than facial expressions, that's all he got. Most likely ,figuratively now, he is afraid of castration on the debate stage if that tells you anything.