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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy were those foreigners on the flight? who or what caused them to leave Iran?
I fixed the post, I meant Iran but typed Iraq
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,489 posts)elleng
(130,974 posts)Sonny Mirviss
(77 posts)Before Trump leveled the place?
My question is why were they there in the 1st place?
And, why did Iran shoot down the civilian airliner.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Sonny Mirviss
(77 posts)Occam's Razor and all that.
BTW, that wasn't a new Boeing 737 Max. and planes don't just catch fire in midair and crash.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)so, from whole cloth is where you claim evidence.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)tblue37
(65,408 posts)Sonny Mirviss
(77 posts)And some incompetent Iranian missile commander panicked.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)63 Canadians on board, do you think we are suspicious characters? Could be a bomb or something but Iran is not going to bring down a passenger airliner that just took off from their airport, in their country. They may be bad actors but they are not stupid, that is left for Trump.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)That's a couple of leaps.
Even among the possibilities of intentional acts, if it were shot down, who is to say that there were not others with assets inside Iran who were interested in there not being any large planes taking off at around that time?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,735 posts)The crash occurred as the aircraft took off from the airport in Tehran. Which is in Iran.
onenote
(42,714 posts)and we know that there is a lot of misspelling on DU.
Demonaut
(8,919 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)So, there's that, to begin with. The airline was Ukranian. Why wouldn't there be foreigners on it?
I don't think that's the pertinent question, really.
Demonaut
(8,919 posts)A pending war is good reason to leave
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)and heading back to school
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I didnt know Iranians went to school there, but that was a CNN story.
I suppose the rest were traveling for all the reasons any of us travel. Shame they ended up leaving on that particular day.
onenote
(42,714 posts)Not a lot of airlines fly direct to Tehran, so if you're a student who travelled home to Iran for the winter semester break and were heading back to school, the flight on Ukraine air was probably the first leg of a trip that would connect to another airline in Kyiv.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Still, much sadness in Iran that 82 of their own citizens were killed.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)And we have many Iranian born citizens, I have met many. They are people just like the rest of us, many of them are highly educated and want to live in peace. It is their government that is the problem, I think you guys would understand how that feels.
onenote
(42,714 posts)Around a third of the passengers were Canadians, or more precisely, Canadian students. They included a large contingent of Iranian born students who attend college in Canada and were back in Iran for the winter break, which was ending. Air Canada doesn't fly to Iran so it is likely that these (and many others) were on the Ukraine Air flight on the way to make a connection in Kyev to get back to Canada (or to other countries that don't fly directly to Iran).
mahina
(17,668 posts)Their poor families
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)It has regular air travel to Europe and Asia, and a robust tourist and business trade.
sinkingfeeling
(51,460 posts)Jordan and back last year. I also was looking to take a tourist trip to Iran in 2020.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)that this "accident" happened exactly as the rockets were firing. In addition just found out that NO US nationals were on board
onenote
(42,714 posts)While it is legal for Americans to travel to Iran, it isn't easy and the number that do in any given year is pretty small.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Those things happen.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Maybe I'm not understanding your question?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Is that really a question?
People travel in and out of Iran for all kinds of reasons. Unlike the US, much of the rest of the world is not on a war footing with them, and has not been for decades.
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)Are you saying/suggesting that foreign flyers don't come here more than any other nation on the planet?
I'd bet money more "foreigners" fly into ...Hartsfield, O'Hare, LAX than....Iran isn't in the top 50 landing zones....
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I was responding to a post which expressed puzzlement that many "foreigners" would be on a flight between Iran and Ukraine. IMHO, the puzzlement arose from perhaps an incorrect assumption that not many persons travel to and from Iran from elsewhere.
US Citizens are not extremely likely to be on a flight from Iran to Ukraine, because very few US citizens visit Iran, compared to, say, other persons from different countries in Central Asia.
However, one would expect a mix of quite a few nationalities to be on such a flight.
You seem to have misunderstood my point that one would expect an assortment of nationalities to be on an international flight, and that it is not unusual that a number of "foreigners" (whatever that may have meant) were on this flight.
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)visiting family..