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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHarry & Meghan are going to chill with the royalty thing
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Good for them - really nice people!
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,637 posts)It cannot be easy living in the (sometimes) hostile environment that they are encountering.
I wonder what they're about to launch!
braddy
(3,585 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)They said they're going to "work to be financially independent."
Isn't that what people have been demanding of the royal family?
braddy
(3,585 posts)in, when will they be rich enough that they don't have to announce that they are devoting themselves to making more money?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Saying "we want to work to be financially independent" is NOT the same as saying "we are devoting ourselves to making more money."
But haters hating is surely one of the reasons they're stepping away ... and haters still gonna hate no matter what they do.
braddy
(3,585 posts)financially independent, they mean more money.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)You seem to prefer the alternative - that they don't bother trying to support themselves but instead just live off of the money the British taxpayers have ponied up.
braddy
(3,585 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Why are you so opposed to them trying to earn a living? Will that harm you in some way or take something away from anyone?
I'm pretty sure that if they didn't try to earn a living and just lived off the millions they can get from the taxpayers, you and others would be all over them about that, too ...
braddy
(3,585 posts)multi millionaire when she arrived from the U.S. on top of his personal wealth Harry gets almost a half million a year from his mom's will, they don't have to live off anyone, ever.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)There's nothing wrong with wanting to contribute to society by using whatever talents or skills you have.
Envy is an ugly shade of green.
braddy
(3,585 posts)focus more on money.
Greed and obsession with themselves is an ugly shade of green, but we have always seen that kind of thing from monarchs.
Nature Man
(869 posts)their wealth "works" for them. They make money from money. Throw in some photo ops, charitable causes, maybe some Hollywood: you get the picture.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Some of it sounds a lot like the MAGA hate and resentment of the "elites."
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)There is a big difference between asking for opportunity or fair breaks and being covetous.
They could mean that the royal family is limited in what it can put money into. Maybe they want to start a venture capital fund that figures out how to better feed the poor inexpensively to the poor, that is not something that a royal can do easily.
I will await until they give more details. They made it seem like they had been talking to the Queen over a period, if so, maybe they want to talk to her more now that they have finally made their decision.
Sounds like they want to live out of the spotlight, but good luck with that, they can't put a genie back into a bottle. Meghan was a famous actress and Harry was born to two of the most famous people in the world, one a future king, there is no way they can recork that longterm.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)..maybe they like earning their own way...
braddy
(3,585 posts)marriage, now they are shooting for billionaire and have already started building their celebrity business.
happybird
(4,608 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Hating inherited wealth and power seems entirely reasonable and, dare I say, progressive. Harry may be a perfectly nice man, but I dont feel even slightly bad about holding him and his ilk in contempt on general principle.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)that level of wealth and influence being granted by dint of genetic lottery. Their very existence is an affront to decency.
Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
- Denis Diderot
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Because genetic lottery and privilege and everything?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Zolorp
(1,115 posts)The contempt for anybody who has more than they can really turn off a lot of people.
treestar
(82,383 posts)She earned on her own.
As for Harry, it's not like he can pick his parents, like any of us.
Nature Man
(869 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)with her earnings from her acting career?
Nature Man
(869 posts)of being the wife of the Duke of Sussex.
NJCher
(35,686 posts)Meghan wasn't all that successful, certainly not successful enough to be a multimillionaire-- and Harry--totally dependent on the Queen.
I would bet the impetus for this is the financial strings attached to the queen. They aren't truly independent. The money is there as long as they play the piper's tune.
They want to carve out their own life.
I think this is interesting because when she married him, I said it would be a cold day in hell before I'd ever give up my life to be a royal. I don't care about the $$; I would want to do what I want when I want. You really can't do that in such a situation.
Anyway, I saw this coming when they were looking for a house in CA.
braddy
(3,585 posts)personal wealth was estimated at over 5 million.
NJCher
(35,686 posts)I just looked it up. It's a surprise to me because I never heard of her before she married Harry and also I never watch TV programs of that nature.
braddy
(3,585 posts)Response to braddy (Reply #52)
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Skittles
(153,169 posts)I watched just a couple of episodes of Suits, I thought it was stupid and she was a very mediocre actress
Hekate
(90,714 posts)An interesting development. The "younger son" is making some striking decisions to establish a life of his own and to stake a claim for happiness on his own terms for himself and his family.
Being born a Royal isn't nearly as wonderful as all that. A great deal of one's life is circumscribed by Duty -- Will (the firstborn and thus future king) and Kate have accepted that and worked hard at the job.
Good luck to them all.
Btw, I am entirely with you regarding having one's own life.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)successful programs. She was a multimillionaire before marrying. Without intimidate knowledge of her spending, saving, or investments, there is no reason to question.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Just stop with your fake news and misplaced hatred.
braddy
(3,585 posts)"Prince Harry's wife starred on seven seasons of the hit TV show Suits, managed her own lifestyle brand The Tig, and double-majored in theatre and international studies at Northwestern University. Marrying a prince? Well that's just another chapter in an already impressive biography.
All of those career accomplishments have added up. Celebrity Net Worth estimates her net worth at around $5 million. "
csziggy
(34,136 posts)I believe that does meet the requirements to be called a mulitmillionaire - especially since her husband's family's net worth is something around $88 billion.
By Amy Fontinelle
Updated Jun 25, 2019
<SNIP>
What kind of money is the Duchess of Sussex bringing into the marriage? Celebrity Net Worth reports that 36-year-old Markles net worth is around $5 million. She earned about $450,000 annually as an actress in Suits, which she joined in 2011 (the show is entering its eighth season). She has also earned income from her womens fashion line at Montreal-based clothing store Reitmans, plus six-figure sums from her film appearances.
More:https://www.investopedia.com/insights/how-will-meghan-markles-finances-change-after-she-marries-harry/
Interesting article about how her marriage affects her personal finances - and what would happen if she renounced her American citizenship, how her tax situation would be affected whether or not she does.
tinrobot
(10,903 posts)But seriously, financially Independent for them simply means no more royal or government money.
I don't think that's such a bad thing.
braddy
(3,585 posts)focus on it, and what about ending their destroying the planet with their conspicuous consumption and globe hopping.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Are folks not supposed to comment if they have a different opinion than yours?
tinrobot
(10,903 posts)And if you want to focus on wealthy royals destroying the planet, might want to start with the Saudis.
braddy
(3,585 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)And very disturbing, and almost word for word for Brits who hate Markle for being biracial. You are literally using their talking points -- why?
braddy
(3,585 posts)You don't need to make personal attacks to defend these rich people.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Hypocrites.
Doremus
(7,261 posts)Not make a great big drama but gracefully bow out without making a huge scene
"Financially independent" means different things to different people I guess.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)But somehow they have to work to be financially independent? I did that in my 20s. I hope the Queen cuts him off.
CountAllVotes
(20,876 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)is long over.
The whole lot of them should retire from 'royal duties' and learn to live like the rest of us.
So sick of hearing about any of them.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)By all accounts, they're very nice people. Harry has taken up many of Princess Di's causes. I applaud their quest for happiness and normalcy.
braddy
(3,585 posts)already in unimaginable luxury and comfort, and great wealth.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)devote themselves to making more, their millions will increase without that devotion to it.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Maybe he wants to earn a living that doesn't involve being on the "Civil List." Why does that piss you off so much? If they want to earn money to support themselves rather than have the British taxpayers foot their bills, what's the big deal? If they earn a living, does that take something away from you?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)They arent going to earn a thing. Theyll be granted positions of influence with cushy incomes on corporate boards or think tanks, all of it on the basis on Harrys inherited title and royal cache.
Nature Man
(869 posts)will ever have to do anything to "earn a living" as is commonly understood? It's not like he's going to join the junior executive class and work his way up to CEO. Certainly won't ever do any actual work in his lifetime. Photo ops and pet causes aren't the same as toiling for shit pay in the hope of reaching the the top. Not the same as sweating $100 because the rent has to be paid. He's already very close to the top of the heap by just waking up and possibly having his phone on. You're talking about someone who basically "won the lottery" just by being born.
He isn't repudiating his hereditary titles and bloodline.
tinrobot
(10,903 posts)They were in drama club together. She remembers Meghan very positively.
renate
(13,776 posts)I love hearing informed positive things about well-known people who seem nice... you never really know except from people with first-hand experience.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)LakeArenal
(28,820 posts)kimbutgar
(21,163 posts)I think this a good move on their part. I never realized how many racists were in Great British. Always thought they were more civilized then us but they also got the Murdoch press blotch curse.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)PunkinPi
(4,875 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Keep the kids from Uncle Andy...
NJCher
(35,686 posts)they've been sending off signals on this for a long time.
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)The Queen HAS to do what the gov tells her to do, and that was host Trump.
llmart
(15,540 posts)They may actually be able to live a somewhat "normal" life. Last thing we need is the disaster that happened to Princess Di.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Megan misses the states and wants to live a more normal life
Thats how I read that
DavidDvorkin
(19,479 posts)Supposedly he was investigating relinquishing his royal titles and becoming a commoner, a few years ago.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)There is no reason for them to be front and center. They might as well go for living like they want to.
Harry is really popular just because he is a nice man that promotes important issues. I am sure he will continue to do that.
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)They want him not to be a target for racists and to have a more normal life.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)Probably coming for far more lenient taxation.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)We have a winner! He can rake in bucks from a whole new set of rubes while paying a relative pittance in taxes.
tinrobot
(10,903 posts)They said North America and just spent 6 weeks in Canada. Canada is still part of the Commonwealth, so probably there.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)But less racism? Nope. There's definitely more racism in the U.S.
Collimator
(1,639 posts)for all practical purposes. Harry has been in the spotlight because he is the son of the wildly popular Diana, whose journey took some dramatic turns.
The Queen has been a respected monarch for decades now; and as the latest Buckingham Palace photo op has demonstrated, she has three future kings lined up behind her.
Sure, Harry is the Queen's grandchild, but so are Princess Anne's kids (whose names I wouldn't know without looking them up) and Prince Edward's. Andrew's daughters did capture the public imagination a little, and they aren't seen as "Senior" in most people's eyes.
Princess Margaret was a big deal in her heyday, when she was young and fashionable, but how many people know about her two children?
For that matter, the makers of The Crown didn't bother to really given any story lines to the Queen's other uncles and aunt. Based on the series, you wouldn't even know that there were other sons and a daughter who could have taken on the throne if Elizabeth's father had truly felt incapable of the responsibility and something had happened to his two daughters.
One British Royal Correspondent likened this decision of the Sussexes to the abdication of King Edward the whatever. That is amusing. The British have plenty of other fancy fish to fry.
Oh, and I agree that the decision to "become financially independent" is not the same as "we want to make a butt-load (or arse-load) of more money." The statement implies that they wish to become financially independent from the relationship between the British taxpayers and the Windsor family. The fact that some people insist on putting words in their mouths that were not said is probably why they want to step back in the first place.
Best of British luck to you, guys! You may be attention seeking, but at least your clothes cover more of your bodies than the Kardashians.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Harry is senior in the fact that he's the Queen's grandson, son and brother of the future monarchs, and a royal prince born to the title. But now that William, the direct heir to the throne, has children, Harry becomes less and less senior as he gets bumped further down the line of succession.
I don't get the hate, either. Wanting to be financially independent is an admirable thing and in no way is equivalent to trying to make a boatload of money (although that's fine, too, if they want to and do it honestly and without exploiting anyone).
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)BuddhaGirl
(3,608 posts)They are also "working royals" - but Charles seems to intent on slimming the monarchy.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Does this mean they intend to give up whatever money they have made and saved so far, or wealth they are entitled to because of their station or family relationships and they are going to start busking in the Tube, middle management gig, to cover a flat and other living expenses in London?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)who are incredibly well-trained in the art of public and media manipulation, and theyre playing the rubes. Sad to see how many are eagerly licking up this vomit.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)I read it started when William told him that he might be moving too fast with Meghan. I dont think it was anything against Meghan. He probably just wanted him to take his time and get to know her better like he did with Kate. Regardless, they are a beautiful family and I hope they enjoy their time together.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Kaleva
(36,310 posts)Harry may prefer to be more like his uncle Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex.
bdamomma
(63,875 posts)leave them be. Canada huh??? Seems like the place to be.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)kudos to them for taking the next steps
samnsara
(17,622 posts)..but not til trumps gone. They will stay in Canada til then. Great move!!
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)They are responsible for his mother's death.
Collimator
(1,639 posts)Now, in the interest of being excruciatingly fair, I think that we have all met someone whom we felt was pretentious or full of themselves, however you want to put it.
When Madonna started affecting a British accent, I thought that was a bit much. However, has the term "uppity" ever been used to describe a white person?
stopdiggin
(11,317 posts)virtually no question a toxic stew prevails ...
and yet .. even on this board, quite few want to make this about "rich, or royals, or celebrity .."