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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSay you go to a dealership to buy a car.
You meet with a sales person, negotiate the price, model, specifications, etc., and sign a contract.
Then say the next day--while you are still waiting on your car to arrive for pickup--you hear the sales person who you signed the contract with has left the dealership.
The new sales person who takes over then informs you that he is no longer honoring the contract and that the sale has been cancelled.
However, he tells you that he is more than willing for you to enter into a new contract that will guarantee that he will get the commissions now instead of the old sales person.
How many of you would still be willing to trust this dealership?
ON EDIT: This is an analogy/metaphor about the difficulty of trusting people after they've broken a deal with you. I myself have not been ripped off by any car dealership. I actually am not currently in the market for a new car. I promise. Really.
Nature Man
(869 posts)until a bank buys the paper.
Not even a question of trust.
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)You still have a valid and enforceable contract in most cases.
However, I would run as far away from this dealer as possible if the salespeople behave like this.
Cartoonist
(7,317 posts)I'll sign a new contract if you take an additional $1000 off.
Do you want to go to court and enjoy the free publicity?
The internet can be cruel.
Throck
(2,520 posts)I generally don't trust them from the moment I step on the lot. Your OP adds a whole new dimension to the level why I don't trust them. I'd rather kiss a coyote with a hamburger in my teeth.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)...has the hair and skin tone of someone who sleeps face down in a pumpkin pie and who slurs as if he eats Adderall like candy.
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Sonny Mirviss
(77 posts)That's the job of the finance manager, who is an officer of the corporation and is authorized to execute said contract.
If you fell for that ploy I suggest that you don't shop alone.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Bottom line is, if someone breaks a deal with you that you entered into in good faith, how easy is it to keep trust in that person after the original deal is broken?
Not very easy at all.
Sonny Mirviss
(77 posts)There is no deal.
A handshake agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)I understood your initial point, and it was well taken.
NO ONE should trust an individual who has already abrogated a signed, solemn, and legally binding agreement.
Particularly so if he is a flabby, orange, shitweasel.
Solomon
(12,311 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)The sales manager might not have liked the terms and overruled the salesperson. If you have a business card from the salesperson you might have their personal phone nbr. It might be worth calling to see if the dealership's story is full of holes. If you prove them wrong you might be dealing with owner who will make you an exceptional deal rather than go to court. And the Sales Mngr will be the one looking for a new job.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)online. I pick the car I want and make an appointment for that day, specifying that exact car, after checking to make sure it is still in stock. Then, i go to the dealership at the appointed time, test drive the car, and negotiate the deal. I don't leave until the paperwork is signed, the loan approved, and I have the keys and the paperwork in hand. If the car is not there or the deal is not satisfactory, I leave and start over. If I have a trade-in, I know what i will or will not accept for it in trade. Kelly Blue Book will give me that number just fine.
My good credit score ensures that the loan will go through. I bring all necessary papers with me, including any needed for any special discounts, like a military veteran discount, etc.
The entire process takes between an hour and a half and two hours. When I go to the dealer, I expect to drive home in my new car. That method has never failed. Buying a car, for me, is pure business. I've already done the research and know what I want and the price I should pay for it. If the dealer has it and the price is right, the deal itself isn't difficult.
That method works a treat. I live in a metro area, so there are multiple dealers for whatever car I want to buy. If one doesn't have what I want, another will. It's easy.
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)You don't have to buy extras unless you want them. If they insist, you simply stand up and walk out. I guarantee they will catch you before you go six feet and forget about that extra.
People forget sometimes that they are the customer. The customer doesn't need that particular car from that particular dealer. The dealer, however, needs the customer. Always be prepared to walk away. Trust me - they won't let you do that.
ZZenith
(4,124 posts)(Its a metaphor fer chrissakes.)
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Extend the metaphor and you'll understand.
ZZenith
(4,124 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)mitch96
(13,912 posts)From my experience they all suck. It's your job to get the best deal from the least suckiest dealer. I use a buyer broker and let him/her do the negotiation. I just go in give'em the check, collect the keys and drive home.
Did I tell you all dealers suck?
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lunasun
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