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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:43 PM Jan 2020

Say you go to a dealership to buy a car.

You meet with a sales person, negotiate the price, model, specifications, etc., and sign a contract.

Then say the next day--while you are still waiting on your car to arrive for pickup--you hear the sales person who you signed the contract with has left the dealership.

The new sales person who takes over then informs you that he is no longer honoring the contract and that the sale has been cancelled.

However, he tells you that he is more than willing for you to enter into a new contract that will guarantee that he will get the commissions now instead of the old sales person.

How many of you would still be willing to trust this dealership?




ON EDIT: This is an analogy/metaphor about the difficulty of trusting people after they've broken a deal with you. I myself have not been ripped off by any car dealership. I actually am not currently in the market for a new car. I promise. Really.

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Say you go to a dealership to buy a car. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2020 OP
Deal is never final Nature Man Jan 2020 #1
If the contract was signed, it doesn't matter DonaldsRump Jan 2020 #2
My response Cartoonist Jan 2020 #3
Buying a car is like marrying a spouse you know might cheat. Throck Jan 2020 #4
I wouldn't, especially if the new sales person... JaneQPublic Jan 2020 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Phentex Jan 2020 #6
Your mythical sales person would be in no position to not honor a contract. Sonny Mirviss Jan 2020 #7
No offense, but I think some of you are taking my metaphor a little too literally. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2020 #9
Until the I's are dotted and the T's are crossed Sonny Mirviss Jan 2020 #14
WHEW! I thought I was going to have to say it. 11 Bravo Jan 2020 #18
Lol. I can't believe all the people missing the point of this post! Solomon Jan 2020 #21
I know, pretty funny. cwydro Jan 2020 #22
Be sure Salesperson #1 has left the dealership. lpbk2713 Jan 2020 #8
Before I go to the dealer to buy a new car, I check the inventory MineralMan Jan 2020 #10
I sat right here and said I didn't want no TruCoat! Brother Buzz Jan 2020 #11
............ Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2020 #12
All you have to do is stand up and walk out the door. MineralMan Jan 2020 #13
Psssst... ZZenith Jan 2020 #15
So is my post. MineralMan Jan 2020 #16
Sorry, not working for me. ZZenith Jan 2020 #17
Oh, OK, then. MineralMan Jan 2020 #19
The dealerships job in not to sell you a car, it's to take every dollar out of your wallet. mitch96 Jan 2020 #20
This is a good book WAPO review called it public enemy #1 of car dealers lunasun Jan 2020 #23

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
2. If the contract was signed, it doesn't matter
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jan 2020

You still have a valid and enforceable contract in most cases.

However, I would run as far away from this dealer as possible if the salespeople behave like this.

Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
3. My response
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jan 2020

I'll sign a new contract if you take an additional $1000 off.

Do you want to go to court and enjoy the free publicity?

The internet can be cruel.


Throck

(2,520 posts)
4. Buying a car is like marrying a spouse you know might cheat.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jan 2020

I generally don't trust them from the moment I step on the lot. Your OP adds a whole new dimension to the level why I don't trust them. I'd rather kiss a coyote with a hamburger in my teeth.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
5. I wouldn't, especially if the new sales person...
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jan 2020

...has the hair and skin tone of someone who sleeps face down in a pumpkin pie and who slurs as if he eats Adderall like candy.

Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

 

Sonny Mirviss

(77 posts)
7. Your mythical sales person would be in no position to not honor a contract.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jan 2020

That's the job of the finance manager, who is an officer of the corporation and is authorized to execute said contract.

If you fell for that ploy I suggest that you don't shop alone.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
9. No offense, but I think some of you are taking my metaphor a little too literally.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:59 PM
Jan 2020

Bottom line is, if someone breaks a deal with you that you entered into in good faith, how easy is it to keep trust in that person after the original deal is broken?

Not very easy at all.

 

Sonny Mirviss

(77 posts)
14. Until the I's are dotted and the T's are crossed
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 04:10 PM
Jan 2020

There is no deal.

A handshake agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
18. WHEW! I thought I was going to have to say it.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jan 2020

I understood your initial point, and it was well taken.
NO ONE should trust an individual who has already abrogated a signed, solemn, and legally binding agreement.
Particularly so if he is a flabby, orange, shitweasel.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
8. Be sure Salesperson #1 has left the dealership.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jan 2020


The sales manager might not have liked the terms and overruled the salesperson. If you have a business card from the salesperson you might have their personal phone nbr. It might be worth calling to see if the dealership's story is full of holes. If you prove them wrong you might be dealing with owner who will make you an exceptional deal rather than go to court. And the Sales Mngr will be the one looking for a new job.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. Before I go to the dealer to buy a new car, I check the inventory
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jan 2020

online. I pick the car I want and make an appointment for that day, specifying that exact car, after checking to make sure it is still in stock. Then, i go to the dealership at the appointed time, test drive the car, and negotiate the deal. I don't leave until the paperwork is signed, the loan approved, and I have the keys and the paperwork in hand. If the car is not there or the deal is not satisfactory, I leave and start over. If I have a trade-in, I know what i will or will not accept for it in trade. Kelly Blue Book will give me that number just fine.

My good credit score ensures that the loan will go through. I bring all necessary papers with me, including any needed for any special discounts, like a military veteran discount, etc.

The entire process takes between an hour and a half and two hours. When I go to the dealer, I expect to drive home in my new car. That method has never failed. Buying a car, for me, is pure business. I've already done the research and know what I want and the price I should pay for it. If the dealer has it and the price is right, the deal itself isn't difficult.

That method works a treat. I live in a metro area, so there are multiple dealers for whatever car I want to buy. If one doesn't have what I want, another will. It's easy.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
13. All you have to do is stand up and walk out the door.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 04:09 PM
Jan 2020

You don't have to buy extras unless you want them. If they insist, you simply stand up and walk out. I guarantee they will catch you before you go six feet and forget about that extra.

People forget sometimes that they are the customer. The customer doesn't need that particular car from that particular dealer. The dealer, however, needs the customer. Always be prepared to walk away. Trust me - they won't let you do that.

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
20. The dealerships job in not to sell you a car, it's to take every dollar out of your wallet.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 05:29 PM
Jan 2020

From my experience they all suck. It's your job to get the best deal from the least suckiest dealer. I use a buyer broker and let him/her do the negotiation. I just go in give'em the check, collect the keys and drive home.
Did I tell you all dealers suck?
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