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CousinIT

(9,248 posts)
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:04 AM Jan 2020

US IS a 'Shithole country': ALABAMA HAS THE WORST POVERTY IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD, U.N. OFFICIAL

https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-un-poverty-environmental-racism-743601

A United Nations official investigating poverty in the United States was shocked at the level of environmental degradation in some areas of rural Alabama, saying he had never seen anything like it in the developed world.

"I think it's very uncommon in the First World. This is not a sight that one normally sees. I'd have to say that I haven't seen this," Philip Alston, the U.N.'s Special Rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights, told Connor Sheets of AL.com earlier this week as they toured a community in Butler County where "raw sewage flows from homes through exposed PVC pipes and into open trenches and pits."

The tour through Alabama's rural communities is part of a two-week investigation by the U.N. on poverty and human rights abuses in the United States. So far, U.N. investigators have visited cities and towns in California and Alabama, and will soon travel to Puerto Rico, Washington, D.C., and West Virginia.

Of particular concern to Alston are specific poverty-related issues that have surfaced across the country in recent years, such as an outbreak of hookworm in Alabama in 2017—a disease typically found in nations with substandard sanitary conditions in South Asia and sub-Saharan Africa, as reported by The Guardian.

The U.N. investigation aims to study the effects of systemic poverty in a prosperous nation like the United States.

According to the Census Bureau, nearly 41 million people in the U.S. live in poverty. That's second-highest rate of poverty among rich countries, as measured by the percentage of people earning less than half the national median income, according to Quartz.
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US IS a 'Shithole country': ALABAMA HAS THE WORST POVERTY IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD, U.N. OFFICIAL (Original Post) CousinIT Jan 2020 OP
No surprises here to me!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2020 #1
We moved to Costa Rica LakeArenal Jan 2020 #2
umm. I think I am envious of your move. riversedge Jan 2020 #29
From Wisconsin even. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #32
From other sources: I've heard that it's expensive to live in Costa Rica. Right or wrong? YOHABLO Jan 2020 #70
Most things are very expensive. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #81
Kick democrank Jan 2020 #3
We're not a civilized or 1st world country; area51 Jan 2020 #4
We're being dragged down by areas and politicians that WANT this ck4829 Jan 2020 #23
Exactly mountain grammy Jan 2020 #37
+1,000 n/t MarcA Jan 2020 #52
yeah, but onethatcares Jan 2020 #24
Well, that and... OldBaldy1701E Jan 2020 #74
Good point. That and crippling higher education costs. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #44
And these people continue to vote Republican..... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2020 #5
They vote Republican because Jesus. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2020 #6
Things Botany Jan 2020 #12
it is easier to win if you own the counting machines questionseverything Jan 2020 #57
Yup! Botany Jan 2020 #58
i am really old...i rememeber paper and pen questionseverything Jan 2020 #60
Jesus, guns and fetuseses... paleotn Jan 2020 #26
Well stated. It's an ongoing con job on those living in denial. MarcA Jan 2020 #53
These people don't vote Republican, actually Spider Jerusalem Jan 2020 #45
Correct - a point that is almost always missed klook Jan 2020 #46
I think his last rally there was for pedophile Roy Moore. CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #48
But, isn't Alabama HIGH on the list that receives more federal tax money back Captain Zero Jan 2020 #76
it gets spent on things that reward the wealthy NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #78
Yes, but we have the best military in the world!!!! packman Jan 2020 #7
And that's exactly why we can't have nice things. paleotn Jan 2020 #28
No, Alabama is a shithole state. n/t D23MIURG23 Jan 2020 #8
Former Senator Jeff Sessions, snowybirdie Jan 2020 #9
Roy Moore keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #14
Yes, but they elected Doug Jones Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2020 #31
Yeah, by a nosehair ck4829 Jan 2020 #42
"Yeah, but we've got a great college football team!" nt Ilsa Jan 2020 #10
This is actually a real factor Johnny2X2X Jan 2020 #21
Been there too. The poverty is palpable. Any "equality" is drowned by GOP policies. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #43
You're right. I temporarily forgot about Auburn. nt Ilsa Jan 2020 #55
Yea...maybe the poor can just eat them. paleotn Jan 2020 #33
Yet they continue to vote for its continuation. onecaliberal Jan 2020 #11
Our automobile culture isolates the affluent from a lot of it. hunter Jan 2020 #13
Why this situation isn't considered a national embarrassment is beyond me ck4829 Jan 2020 #15
Nobody could see this coming? Aristus Jan 2020 #16
A contributing factor, that is for sure ck4829 Jan 2020 #25
If they subtracted Honda manufacture from AL bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #17
And Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville. CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #50
And Mercedes and Airbus and Austil? trof Jan 2020 #65
Alabama is not a country so that headline doesn't beven make sense. Progressive dog Jan 2020 #18
You understand what the OP said though ck4829 Jan 2020 #22
The situation in Alabama can't be fixed by comparing Progressive dog Jan 2020 #63
Helps put things in perspective paleotn Jan 2020 #34
It's too bad those arrogant anti-Americans can't stick to facts. Progressive dog Jan 2020 #62
Thank you for trying. oldsoftie Jan 2020 #79
I did basic training in Alabama. liberalmuse Jan 2020 #19
Hard to argue against that! ...nt 2naSalit Jan 2020 #20
and all those people with 0 savings and 0 money in the stock market Takket Jan 2020 #27
You know it! ck4829 Jan 2020 #36
Spot on. brokephibroke Jan 2020 #40
nearly 41 million people in the U.S. live in poverty. That's second-highest rate of poverty among r riversedge Jan 2020 #30
I'd love to know how much of the US this official has seen Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2020 #35
I live in WV. a la izquierda Jan 2020 #72
Keep them poor Puppyjive Jan 2020 #38
Bama pays no attention to education, health or the environment brokephibroke Jan 2020 #39
And tell me again, how much federal tax is generated in Alabama KPN Jan 2020 #41
Not the US...just certain states colored in red. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #47
I often reflect on Thomas Frank's book, What's the Matter with Kansas?.... Brother Buzz Jan 2020 #49
Are they looking for third world indicators? Come back in November 2020. Monitor the 2020 election. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #51
Parts of the rural U.S. are becoming socio-economically another nation. MarcA Jan 2020 #54
True ck4829 Jan 2020 #75
The Red States... MineralMan Jan 2020 #56
California isn't that much better these days ansible Jan 2020 #59
Red states tend to have lower income & education levels Locutusofborg Jan 2020 #61
yay. we're number one. trof Jan 2020 #64
Anyone ever read Rick Bragg? You'll understand part of AL better. nolabear Jan 2020 #66
I drove through Alabama once... czarjak Jan 2020 #67
The U.S. Is Becoming A 3rd World Country; Article above is 12/17 appalachiablue Jan 2020 #68
Post-Brexit Britain... Myrddin Jan 2020 #69
And next door in Mississippi, "restitution centers" provide cheap labor progree Jan 2020 #71
Studying systemic poverty is one thing. Knowing how it got to be "systemic" sheds light on ancianita Jan 2020 #73
To Kill a Mockingbird knightmaar Jan 2020 #77
Systematic poverty does not equal shit hole anything. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #80

LakeArenal

(28,826 posts)
2. We moved to Costa Rica
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jan 2020

Five minutes ago we laughed as one of us said “What do I know? I’m just an ex-pat from a shithole country.”

When we planned this move for years, political refugee was not one of the reasons. But now, we feel we are.

LakeArenal

(28,826 posts)
32. From Wisconsin even.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:57 PM
Jan 2020

Hope you have good luck there this Nov.

We will vote absentee but have little hope our votes will be counted.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
70. From other sources: I've heard that it's expensive to live in Costa Rica. Right or wrong?
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:00 AM
Jan 2020

Of course all things being relative, you may think it's cheap to live there, but then you wouldn't be there if you didn't have a little extra cash.

LakeArenal

(28,826 posts)
81. Most things are very expensive.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jan 2020

My $5000 bluebook American car is valued at $15000. It cost $9000 to ship it here.
Food is comparable to US
Rent is a lot less than America.
Clothes are inexpensive.
People are much nicer here
We live in the mountains. It’s cheaper than either coast. Weather is much nice where we are. At least we think so.
It cost 1500 to apply for residency.

area51

(11,912 posts)
4. We're not a civilized or 1st world country;
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:15 AM
Jan 2020

if we were, healthcare would be a basic human right instead of being considered a luxury.



ck4829

(35,077 posts)
23. We're being dragged down by areas and politicians that WANT this
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jan 2020

That improving the lot of everyone, making sure we have public goods for all, becomes SOCIALISM or something

onethatcares

(16,174 posts)
24. yeah, but
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jan 2020

we spent 2.5 trillion dollars on the military according to don the con.

not like that money isn't needed for infrastructure, education, healthcare right here in the good ole U. S. of A.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,138 posts)
74. Well, that and...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:58 AM
Jan 2020

giving billions of dollars to other countries while we have homeless, hopeless, and starving human beings right here. Face it, the days of being deluded enough to think we are 'better' than everyone else has passed for all but those who want to be deluded. (Or are making money from the delusion, of course).

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
5. And these people continue to vote Republican.....
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:16 AM
Jan 2020

Low information, lack of education, increases poverty.

Trump did say he loved the poorly educated. Has he done a rally in Alabama?

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
6. They vote Republican because Jesus.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jan 2020

It's the same over here on the other side of the river from you... Trump policies are costing people income and quality education...but, JESUS!

Botany

(70,524 posts)
12. Things
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jan 2020

In your state, America's Dairyland you had a loss of 10% of the total # of dairy farms in 2019
because of Trump's trade war with China but many will stay with Trump because of abortion,
guns, and the 24/7 hate talk radio/Fox/other right wing sources that they have been fed ever
since Reagan got rid of the fairness doctrine.

https://americanindependent.com/donald-trump-trade-war-wisconsin-dairy-farmers-china/

In rural/city/suburban poor areas such as Alabama, West Virginia, and other states the Jesus card is very
strong. And in those same poor areas "they" just don't let the blacks vote or have their votes counted
like White voters have their votes counted.

The Jesus/fundy vote is very strong because even though "they" can see Australia burning up in front
of their eyes their pastors tell them that global warming isn't true and they are just being shown "liberal
facts."

In N.E. Ohio the GM plant @ Lordstown was saved by Barack Obama but in 2016 you had a % of the
white male workers @ that plant vote for Trump.

But at the end of the day the GOP has to cheat to win. Even in traditional red states such as South Carolina.
S.C. is 35% African American & 11% and growing Hispanic those #s should make it really hard for republicans
to win state wide races but somehow they do.

sorry to

Botany

(70,524 posts)
58. Yup!
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 06:33 PM
Jan 2020

If you remember the "old fashioned voting machines*" that recorded the vote when
you pulled the lever that opened the curtain around the voting machine the exit polls
almost always matched the vote but ever since HAVA (help America vote act) and electronic
voting the exit polls have not matched the vote. In 2016 HRC won going away if the exit
polls were correct.

* Mechanical voting

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
60. i am really old...i rememeber paper and pen
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 06:40 PM
Jan 2020

counted openly and transparently in front of the entire precinct

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
26. Jesus, guns and fetuseses...
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:51 PM
Jan 2020

feti? Whatever. And it's not just poor whites. It's middle class, suburban whites, in hock up to their eyeballs trying to live the dream that's neither economically or environmentally sustainable. Sold the idea that they can be rich too if they will just work hard enough and let the rich have their tax cuts and regulation rollbacks. A modern version of the plow horse and the carrot. All the while the rich snicker at the dumb plebs who actually believe this is a meritocracy and not a birth lottery.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
53. Well stated. It's an ongoing con job on those living in denial.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jan 2020

I would add gays, immigrants and the belief in most media as reality rather than entertainment.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
45. These people don't vote Republican, actually
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:21 PM
Jan 2020

the extreme poverty described here almost uniquely affects African-American communities. These people aren't Trump voters.

klook

(12,158 posts)
46. Correct - a point that is almost always missed
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jan 2020

when we see discussions about “Blue states subsidizing Red states.” Those Blue State dollars are usually helping minority communities trapped in the belly of the Red beast.

Captain Zero

(6,811 posts)
76. But, isn't Alabama HIGH on the list that receives more federal tax money back
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 08:48 AM
Jan 2020

than they pay in for federal taxes ?

So someone siphons it off before it gets to any projects for these people.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
78. it gets spent on things that reward the wealthy
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:22 AM
Jan 2020

charter/magnet schools owned by private corporations (hello Betsy DeVos), tax breaks for corporations to stay in or relocate to the state, funding so State U has a first rate football team and all top of the line facilities, funding for building private prisons and to keep the state afloat by paying for the low taxes.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
7. Yes, but we have the best military in the world!!!!
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jan 2020

USA,, YAH - USA,USA, USA ( and so on and so forth).

snowybirdie

(5,230 posts)
9. Former Senator Jeff Sessions,
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jan 2020

Richard Shelby and six of its seven representatives are all Republicans! That is all

Johnny2X2X

(19,074 posts)
21. This is actually a real factor
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jan 2020

Alabama has 2 big time college football programs and it’s all most people for that state care about. The poverty in rural parts of the South is stunning in its breadth. I’ve driven through it, some parts are just mile after mile of people living in literal shacks. These people are the Republican ideal for people who want to be ruled.

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)
43. Been there too. The poverty is palpable. Any "equality" is drowned by GOP policies.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jan 2020

Will they ever wake up?

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
33. Yea...maybe the poor can just eat them.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:59 PM
Jan 2020

I wonder what Nick Saban tastes like with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

Other than that, they benefit...ummm.....zilch from the Crimson Tide. Particularly since the vast majority are merely sidewalk alumni.

hunter

(38,319 posts)
13. Our automobile culture isolates the affluent from a lot of it.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:55 AM
Jan 2020

We get in our little pods and drive from nice place to nice place, avoiding the bad places, oblivious to the horrors we pass.

Aristus

(66,409 posts)
16. Nobody could see this coming?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jan 2020

I mean, take away their free labor force, leave no one but lazy-ass white people who won't put in an honest day's work, and the state is supposed to be prosperous?

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
18. Alabama is not a country so that headline doesn't beven make sense.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jan 2020

The name calling adds nothing to your post and in fact might anger some Americans.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
22. You understand what the OP said though
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jan 2020

Complaining about the tone and word choice in a post doesn't detract from the fact that the situation in Alabama is not acceptable.

Americans should be angry... over the content of this story, not over the words some DUer posted.

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
63. The situation in Alabama can't be fixed by comparing
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:43 PM
Jan 2020

the poorest small part of a large nation to the entirety of other nations.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
19. I did basic training in Alabama.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jan 2020

The environmental degradation, especially on the Army training grounds was unbelievable. The forest looked dead.

Takket

(21,581 posts)
27. and all those people with 0 savings and 0 money in the stock market
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:51 PM
Jan 2020

will be praising drumpf over how his the Dow is!!!!!!!!!

riversedge

(70,248 posts)
30. nearly 41 million people in the U.S. live in poverty. That's second-highest rate of poverty among r
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:56 PM
Jan 2020


https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-un-poverty-environmental-racism-743601
According to the Census Bureau, nearly 41 million people in the U.S. live in poverty. That's second-highest rate of poverty among rich countries, as measured by the percentage of people earning less than half the national median income, according to Quartz.......


https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-un-poverty-environmental-racism-743601

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
35. I'd love to know how much of the US this official has seen
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:02 PM
Jan 2020

Alabama has some poverty, to be sure. However, I'd stack Alabama up against Mississippi or parts of Kentucky &/or West Virginia if we are having a competition. And I'd also ask the UN official if they've been to parts of the Midwest recently (I'm thinking about once-thriving towns like Cairo that are essentially ghost towns now), or if they've been to Native American reservations in the Northern Plains.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
72. I live in WV.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 06:25 AM
Jan 2020

A few years back, I brought some WV college students to Mexico. Some couldn’t believe there were places in the world poorer than where they were from.
It was madness.

brokephibroke

(1,883 posts)
39. Bama pays no attention to education, health or the environment
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:13 PM
Jan 2020

More CONcerned with guns and oppression of civil rights. It’s a RW paradise.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
41. And tell me again, how much federal tax is generated in Alabama
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:16 PM
Jan 2020

and how much does the federal government spend there?

Brother Buzz

(36,447 posts)
49. I often reflect on Thomas Frank's book, What's the Matter with Kansas?....
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:56 PM
Jan 2020

When I think of Alabama.

There are some good things going on in Alabama, and some sterling people who hail from there, but, dammit....

Riddle me this: Why is Alabama in the cellar in education, yet has some pretty good college football teams?

(Note: the music is Duane Eddy's "Rebel-'Rouser". 'Nuff said.)

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
51. Are they looking for third world indicators? Come back in November 2020. Monitor the 2020 election.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jan 2020

They will see third-world behavior for sure.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
54. Parts of the rural U.S. are becoming socio-economically another nation.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jan 2020

An environment not unlike many Native American reservations.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
59. California isn't that much better these days
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 06:34 PM
Jan 2020

There's squatter's camps all over town now, the local creek is so polluted with trash and poop yet cops won't do anything about it. And the homeless are spreading too even to the side of freeways. It's horrifying, this is the sort of thing I only saw in third world countries before.

Locutusofborg

(525 posts)
61. Red states tend to have lower income & education levels
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:07 PM
Jan 2020

hence, more poverty. The highest poverty rates are in:
1 Mississippi: 20.07% (Red)
2 New Mexico: 19.61%
3 Louisiana: 18.84% (Red)
4 Kentucky: 17.39% (Red)
5 West Virginia: 17.25% (Red)
6 Arkansas: 17.06% (Red)
7 Alabama: 17.05% (Red)
8 District of Columbia: 16.00%
9 Tennessee: 15.73% (Red)
10 Arizona: 15.72% (Red)
http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/poverty-rate-by-state/
https://www.census.gov/topics/income-poverty/poverty/about.html

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
66. Anyone ever read Rick Bragg? You'll understand part of AL better.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:24 PM
Jan 2020

I was born in Alabama though I never lived there and never cared for it. It has all of the problems of MS and LA without any of the art or culture. But my mother’s people were from there and they were the cotton mill poor that defined the state.

Bragg writes with poignant affection but a clear eye. The poverty, lack of education and pathway toward more, the religion and alcohol and drugs that filled the void of despair...that’s what 45 preys on. You can’t just bootstrap yourself up from generations of that. And the ability to be self sufficient has decreased tremendously.

I’ll confess my mother’s parents were horrific. She died very young so I was freed from them. Interestingly, all their grandkids did pretty well.

But I digress...the whole thing makes me quite sad.

progree

(10,909 posts)
71. And next door in Mississippi, "restitution centers" provide cheap labor
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:16 AM
Jan 2020

Last edited Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:14 AM - Edit history (1)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212865569
"It's a futile system that penalizes the poorest residents of the poorest state in the country"
Mississippi Today https://mississippitoday.org/

To pay off fines and other debts, inmates in Mississippi’s little-known restitution centers must work grueling low-wage jobs, pay rent and endure strip searches.

In this world between prison and freedom, they often don’t know when they’ll get to go home.

By Anna Wolfe and Michelle Liu | January 9, 2020
Data analysis by Andrew Calderón, The Marshall Project

JACKSON, Miss. – During her shifts at a Church’s Chicken, Annita Husband looked like the other employees. She wore the same blue and red polo shirt, greeted the same customers, and slung the same fried chicken and biscuits.

But after clocking out, Husband, a mother in her 40s, had to wait for a white van with barred windows and the seal of the Mississippi Department of Corrections on its sides. It delivered her to the Flowood Restitution Center, a motel converted into a jail surrounded by razor wire, nestled among truck stops and an outlet mall. Here, Husband slept in a room with seven other women, sharing a mirror to get ready in the mornings, enduring strip searches for contraband at night.

A judge sentenced Husband to the restitution center in 2015 to pay off almost $13,000 she owed from an embezzlement conviction in 2009. The corrections department would not release her until she earned enough money at her $7.25-an-hour part-time job to clear her debts and cover $11 a day for “room and board” at Flowood.

“If I wasn’t at work, I was in prison,” Husband said.

... When we tracked down the cases of more than 200 people confined there on Jan. 1, 2019, we found that most originally got suspended sentences, meaning they did not have to go to prison.

They didn’t usually owe a lot of money. Half the people living in the centers had debts of less than $3,515. One owed just $656.50. Though in arrears on fines and court fees, many didn’t need to pay restitution at all — at least 20 percent of them were convicted of drug possession.

But people spent an average of nearly four months — and up to five years — at the centers, working for private employers to earn enough to satisfy the courts. Meanwhile their costs continued to balloon, since they had to pay for room and board, transportation to their jobs, and medical care.

....
(published under Creative Commons license)

ancianita

(36,109 posts)
73. Studying systemic poverty is one thing. Knowing how it got to be "systemic" sheds light on
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:12 AM
Jan 2020

eliminating the causes of persistent poverty. Poverty is not an inherent condition of humans. Concerted tax embezzlement at political levels is one cause. Unregulated corporate practices and "wealth management" are the other causes.

Persistent poverty is caused by persistent class war. Period.

If the U.N. doesn't think Americans have already studied their systemic problem ad nauseam, then they haven't paid attention, or they need to catch up.

If the U.N. has a new way to help, they ought to come out with it, or stop exposing a problem that the world has studied everywhere else, yet won't help the targets of their studies to solve.

Because "systemic" is a design by humans. And we now know what that system is and who those humans are. They have names.

Persistent wealth exists now because of the enablers of stealth embezzlers of any country's wealth -- the professionals, lawyers, accountants, bought legislators -- known as "the help."

A history of the European corporate "project" of development of America:

-- Nancy Isenberg's White Trash -- The 400-Year Untold History of Class In America

-- Thom Hartmann's Unequal Protection

-- Oliver Bullough's Moneyland -- The Inside Story of the Crooks and Kleptocrats Who Rule The World (recommended recently by Lawrence O'Donnell)

Corporations, if they could (and many still do), would provide "jobs" today in the same way they provided "jobs" in company towns in the Midwest, sharecropping farms in the South; meat processing plants everywhere; in extraction industries like oil, mining, fishing, clear cut logging; and in tax haven countries. Because certain countries are not tax havens; they are wealth havens, and their "freeports" are mostly where they stash their stuff while they fly around, refusing to "see" the horrors their systemic embezzlements have caused.

The four stages of impoverishing a democracy:

1. Defund (institutions, government, basics of human survival -- food, shelter, education, healthcare)
2. Deform (by stealth tax embezzlement through "reforms," incorporating the commons, extraction of landbase wealth )
3. Stigmatize (blame the victims as inherently inferior, name-call any liberal effort or thinking, exclude stereotyped groups from society, broadcast propaganda, divisive hate)
4. Privatize (banks, corporations buy up institutions, govt, military, police, all land, national park & commons)



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