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(102,292 posts)and the rest of the circus. You have to think long-termers at SDNY are not at all happy at the disrepute Giuliani has brought to all of them with his antics.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)And they go after others that have been left alone in the past.
dem4decades
(11,296 posts)babylonsister
(171,070 posts)But he's Tony Soprano.
dem4decades
(11,296 posts)I stand corrected.
babylonsister
(171,070 posts)that's a powerful motivator.
And he knows the characters he's dealing with, so that also says something about said characters.
dem4decades
(11,296 posts)is a regular person in some ways.
crickets
(25,981 posts)wiggs
(7,814 posts)Clash City Rocker
(3,396 posts)Because if something happened to him in prison after this, it would look suspicious.
Alternately, maybe hes just sick of covering things up and wants to tell the truth.
babylonsister
(171,070 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)By "spilling the beans", he makes himself valuable to the good guys while simultaneously making it not worthwhile for the bad guys to silence.
dflprincess
(28,079 posts)peggysue2
(10,832 posts)She didn't mention Epstein specifically but said what she gleaned from talking to Parnas before and during the interview is that the man feels the more of this material is out in the public sphere, the less chance that he and his documentation would suddenly be . . . hummm, disappeared. Or maybe the victim of one of those Russian accidents where people curiously fly out of ten-story windows. And that security consideration probably extends to the man's family. He has four kids and I think I read there's another on the way. I'm sure he's hoping he'll get some sort of consideration with the charges that will be leveled against him but I would think that personal security is a prime motivator.
spooky3
(34,458 posts)marble falls
(57,106 posts)babylonsister
(171,070 posts)womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)but they still might kill him as a lesson for others. Maybe the judge let him be on home arrest to keep him alive.
marble falls
(57,106 posts)till we get a President Pence who will pardon Donnie Two Scoops.
He will be exonerated and carry on with his clownish bullshit.
I just hope he is not selected again. Those next four years would be full on insanity for our country.
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)He probably thinks that the house is a more honest broker than barr's doj. The house has the power to offer it, and the doj wouldn't be able to prosecute him for whatever the house immunized him for.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,011 posts)canetoad
(17,169 posts)I think he's really pissed off that trump denied knowing him.
nolabear
(41,986 posts)I keep hearing Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. Or Nancys comment about painting houses.
These are treacherous people.
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)A lifetime of crime without getting caught and he was undone by associating with these idiots.
Hyde kept sending him incriminating messages and he didnt respond much apparently.
And hes going to jail and those bozos arent?
Revenge.
mitch96
(13,912 posts)I don't trust the guy.... follow the money...
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ecstatic
(32,712 posts)that he's trying to avoid getting Epsteined. There's really no incentive to kill him if everything he knows is already exposed. In fact, killing him now would make trump look even more guilty.
hunter
(38,317 posts)Whatever he says might be useful against Trump, Pence, Barr, and their partners in crime, but it's still poison.
Best wear protective gear.
arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)of the information he has, exposing everything and giving all of the physical evidence he has hopefully makes killing him pointless.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Either Parnas knows where he is going with this, or he is a mouse caught in a blender and it's just a matter of time before the "puree" button is pressed.
tinrobot
(10,903 posts)Makes sense.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)I seriously think the video that emerged yesterday of him mocking Trump in a private moment with Assad was a the prearranged signal to Lev to dump his data and cause chaos here. What better time for Putin to declare himself president of Russia for life? He just did a massive power grab and destabilized us simultaneously.
Lev sure isnt spilling out of the goodness of his heart.
hunter
(38,317 posts)Or something like that.
Kitchari
(2,166 posts)Putin gave the OK
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)She is a heroine back in Russia now, even after she gave damaging "testimony" here. Parnas has been funded from Russia for years, that doesn't happen for an average immigree. I am leaning toward Parnas knows what he is doing and so does Putin. What greater prize can Putin gain than no American believing in our system of electing office holders, if he gets that, he effectively destroys our democracy that has taken 244 years and a lot of blood to gain and build upon.
Kitchari
(2,166 posts)Giving Putin MORE power. This is not a coincidence.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)but his family is another thing.
intrepidity
(7,307 posts)The disclosure of his papers has been in the works for awhile.
moondust
(19,993 posts)If not he's smart enough to know he needs to get there and this could do it.
gibraltar72
(7,506 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That guy has been funded from Russia for years and has wiggled his way deep into the Republican Party. Putin likely saw years ago that it was easier to corrupt republicans as a whole than it was to corrupt democrats as a whole, so people like Parnas and Buttina, and others that we don't know yet, were sent into the USA to compromise one of the two major political parties.
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)No other motivation
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I just don't think that he is the doe-eyed wannabe goon that he is making himself out to be. If he doesn't end up dead, he is likely working to Putin's orders.
My guess? He causes maximum chaos in our country and gets deported back to Russia as part of a prisoner swap.
arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)your country if divisions didnt already exist. Sounds like they were capitalising on them and expanding on what already was a given. Your countrys divide made their job a home run.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)We are arguably one of the most significant countries to exist on the face of the earth, but we are also prone to go to grotesque excesses.
From our beginning, religion has been at the core of our extremes, the Salem Witch trials, the Trail of Tears, Slavery, Prohibition, segregation, the 50s red scare, failure to insure full rights for POC and females. Religion got us to where we are. One political party decided that it could profit on religious divisions and it's key offshoot, denial of rights to select people. Then along came a soulless demogogue who saw the success that one political party had with using religion as a wedge and he decided to put that on steroids. So we are where we are.
My nation is in a pit of darkness right now and people are still fighting each other, even those that claim to have shared values (mostly on the center and the left). But within the darkness lays hope, people are abandoning organized religion -choosing to rely on their inate spirituality instead - which is a wiser course to take, people on the left and center -most of them at least are awakening to the fact that they need eachother to pull the country out of the darkness.
We will wallow in the misery for a little longer, but we will come out of it stronger as a result of that, we always have. The great asset that we have this time is the socalled "moral" religious people have fully shown their hand in support of an immoral demogogue, so any attempt by them to take the moral high ground in debates isn't going to work any longer. We will be ok, we just need resolve by people in the center and left to set our small differences aside and fight a common enemy.
arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)We may be a lot stronger than we feel right now. The difference may be that now we see more of the truth about corruption in our country. Ironically its the excesses of the corrupt who have brought it to our attention. In any case well soon see if we survive this as a Democracy or as a Dictatorship.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Somewhere in the future, Historians will write about how we fared.
intrepidity
(7,307 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)He was fleeing for a reason.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)public he is.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Was my thought, and Rachel confirmed it was her impression as to why hes going public. Get stuff on the record to leave less motive for someone to try and silence you.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)MFM008
(19,816 posts)Fear of being the fall guy.
Fear of being Epsteined.
Fear of high up windows.
Fear of poisoning.
SWBTATTReg
(22,133 posts)Time to move on to other tricks up their sleeves...