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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:07 PM Jan 2020

Re: The Rachel Maddow interview with Lev Parnas.

Amazing. Simply amazing. More pieces of the puzzle were revealed by an eyewitness and accomplice to what happened.

And so far, all of the revealed evidence and testimony fits together very well.

More to come tomorrow about Rick Perry, Mike Pompeo, and Trump.

There is a principle in logic called Occam's Razor. And basically, it states that the simplest explanation should be considered.

If all of the evidence suggests that Trump ordered Ukraine to manufacture a scandal about the Bidens and Ukraine, and the evidence supports the idea that Trump linked this demand to all aid to Ukraine, we have all we need to convict Trump.

Except in the GOP controlled Senate.

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Re: The Rachel Maddow interview with Lev Parnas. (Original Post) guillaumeb Jan 2020 OP
I live my life by Occams Razor alittlelark Jan 2020 #1
And we know that is because the simplest solution requires guillaumeb Jan 2020 #5
I want to know when Rachel gets the Pulitzer Prize... Hekate Jan 2020 #2
She is amazing. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #6
Trouble is... if he can't PROVE that Barr, Pence, etc. knew... it will be he said/they said. NCLefty Jan 2020 #3
Yeah, but so was Lev Parnas canetoad Jan 2020 #4
And the power of multiple testimonies, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #8
Prosecutors use such trestimony to win cases all the time. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #7
There are text messages and voice mails Duppers Jan 2020 #11
FOX NEWS said Parnas sunk Dem theories Johnny2X2X Jan 2020 #9
FOX is preaching to the Trump base. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #13
"Everyone was in the loop" ffr Jan 2020 #10
It is vital that the House open another investigation. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #15
Mother Nature can be Rube Goldberg-like on rare occasions pecosbob Jan 2020 #12
The obvious explanation was uncovered by the House. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #18
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2020 #14
Maddow was amazing as well. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #16
Absolutely! H2O Man Jan 2020 #17

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. And we know that is because the simplest solution requires
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:15 AM
Jan 2020

the least amount of coincidence and co-ordination.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
2. I want to know when Rachel gets the Pulitzer Prize...
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:23 PM
Jan 2020

She is good all the time, but tonight she showed the smoking gun to the entire world.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
3. Trouble is... if he can't PROVE that Barr, Pence, etc. knew... it will be he said/they said.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jan 2020

And they will win that argument. The first thing they will say is this man is an admitted criminal and can't be trusted, just like Cohen.

A lot of people are getting very excited about all of this, and it IS very stunning and serious, but some seem to think they're all "going down" for it. Have you met these people? Barr derailed the whole Mueller report and they've all been in lockstep to protect Trump and their party. There better be more of a connection to Trump than a piece of paper from a hotel that could have been written at any time.

canetoad

(17,167 posts)
4. Yeah, but so was Lev Parnas
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:34 PM
Jan 2020

Until he got caught. Never underestimate the power of self-preservation.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. And the power of multiple testimonies,
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:19 AM
Jan 2020

and documents, and electronic communication records, and patriots who are sick of what has happened, and is happening.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. Prosecutors use such trestimony to win cases all the time.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:18 AM
Jan 2020

And what Parnas is saying has been corroborated in large part by other witness testimony and evidence.

In my view, even more will come out.

But in FOXlandia, and in Trumpworld, all of this will be dismissed.

But polling already suggests that a majority of the country knows that Trump has lied about this.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
11. There are text messages and voice mails
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 01:34 AM
Jan 2020

Authorities have these on Parnas' devices.

*Possible* evidence:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212872164

And...

Andrew Prokop

@awprokop
Welp, here's another 390 pages of Lev Parnas messages, posted by the House: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU00/20191211/110331/HMKP-116-JU00-20191211-SD9020.pdf

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
9. FOX NEWS said Parnas sunk Dem theories
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:25 AM
Jan 2020

I’m serious. Their lead in this is about how Parnas refuted Dems.

That’s what we’re dealing with. Total propaganda.

They lead with how Nancy blew the impeachment. LOL.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
13. FOX is preaching to the Trump base.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 01:17 PM
Jan 2020

And polling suggests that the public understands what Trump did.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
10. "Everyone was in the loop"
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:37 AM
Jan 2020

WOW!


Mr. Pence, Mr. tRump, & Mr. Pompeo, we're going to have to ask you to take the witness stand.

Are these men traitors?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
15. It is vital that the House open another investigation.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jan 2020

And subpoena these liars.

Do not forget William Barr.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
12. Mother Nature can be Rube Goldberg-like on rare occasions
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 08:27 AM
Jan 2020

But Trump and the current batch of Republican clowns? Not very likely.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
18. The obvious explanation was uncovered by the House.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jan 2020

And all of the available evidence, as well as this new evidence, supports that Trump demanded political help, in the form of an announcement of an investigation, in return for the release of any aid to Ukraine.

There is no other plausible explanation for Trump's actions, or for the subsequent attempt at a cover up.

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