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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 02:33 PM Jan 2020

Imagine that Speaker Pelosi had bowed to the pressure to quickly send the impeachment

articles to the GOP controlled Senate. The GOP side demanded it, and there was debate among Democrats as well concerning how quickly the articles should have been sent.

But Speaker Pelosi waited, and McConnell fumed as polling showed that the public has realized that Trump had broken the law, and that his conduct needed to be investigated. And that he deserved to be impeached.

And now, we have the release of material from Lev Parnas. Material that the GOP and Trump were desperately determined to conceal. Material that is consistent with what the House investigation revealed.

Namely, that Trump and the GOP have been working in concert to break any laws in order to keep power, and to conceal the crimes that they have engaged in.

And this released material, with more to come, will put more pressure on the GOP as they work to hide what they have done.

Thank you, Speaker Pelosi.

Now, how about opening another investigation in the House into the Trump/Hyde/Giuliani/Barr/Pence connection?

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Imagine that Speaker Pelosi had bowed to the pressure to quickly send the impeachment (Original Post) guillaumeb Jan 2020 OP
Thank you is right. jimfields33 Jan 2020 #1
Welcome to DU. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #3
Yes and I heard someone say today that she should've waited longer - the trial has started IndyOp Jan 2020 #2
My guess is that McConnell will rush this farce through guillaumeb Jan 2020 #4
Speaker Pelosi must have known something else would drop. Blue_true Jan 2020 #5
And given Trump's past history of criminal behavior, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #6
Anyone think Trump only solicited Ukraine manufacture? bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #7
Indeed. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #8
And I suspect Pelosi is aware of many of them and is maneuvering to get them out, too StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #18
K & R malaise Jan 2020 #9
Stilettos would be better for applying pressure. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #10
I will tell Nancy Sinatra malaise Jan 2020 #11
We don't know how this will end. BlueWI Jan 2020 #12
Any celebrating must wait until after the election. eom guillaumeb Jan 2020 #15
Yes. And imagine if she'd bowed to the pressure of trying to impeach last May after the Mueller repo StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #13
Well said. Nothing to add. eom guillaumeb Jan 2020 #14
her timing has been great and no DU or other person treestar Jan 2020 #16
Experience does count for something. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #17
Have you seen the Lev Parnas Picture Party? EndlessWire Jan 2020 #19
Welcome to DU, and yes, I have. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #20

IndyOp

(15,524 posts)
2. Yes and I heard someone say today that she should've waited longer - the trial has started
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jan 2020

... Roberts in Senate swearing in Senators

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. Speaker Pelosi must have known something else would drop.
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jan 2020

Lev Parnas and today the GAO report that said Trump broke the law and not for the reason Trump claims. Now republicans are painted in a corner. This is what experience and smarts bring about, Speaker Pelosi has both.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
6. And given Trump's past history of criminal behavior,
Thu Jan 16, 2020, 07:00 PM
Jan 2020

and his 15,000 or so lies, I feel most of us here felt that there was and is much more.

bucolic_frolic

(43,177 posts)
7. Anyone think Trump only solicited Ukraine manufacture?
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jan 2020

I would suspect multiple plans for election help and fake political dirt as the months roll along.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. Indeed.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jan 2020

As has been discussed here, Trump was clearly emboldened by escaping any punishment after the release of the Mueller Report. He obviously feels that he is above the law.

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
12. We don't know how this will end.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jan 2020

We don't know how much damage has been done or will occur, given that Trump is still president and will probably stand for re-election.

The premature end zone dancing needs to stop. We're in a fight for democracy to endure, and the answer is uncertain. No one knows yet what the best timing is or was on the impeachment process, but IMO public pressure from within the party was a critical factor for why it occurred at all. If this president wasn't such a criminally corrupt failure with no filter whatsoever in his public remarks or any shred of respect for the law, impeachment still probably wouldn't have happened.

The fact that Trump remains president exemplifies how much there is to do to sustain Democratic policies in DC and across the country. Hagiography needs to wait till this president is actually out of office.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
13. Yes. And imagine if she'd bowed to the pressure of trying to impeach last May after the Mueller repo
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:52 PM
Jan 2020

Impeachment probably wouldn't even have made it out of the House and, even if it did, it would be over and done and a long ago memory not even visible in the rear view mirror

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
17. Experience does count for something.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jan 2020

And her record speaks volumes about her ability to learn from experience.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
19. Have you seen the Lev Parnas Picture Party?
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 04:37 PM
Jan 2020

Trump claimed he didn't know the man...hahaha!! Parnas has been photographed with, apparently, the entire GOP! It's hilarious!

To me, this is yet another Obstruction of Justice charge against Trumpy. They should call him as a witness. Bolton, Parnas, Trump.

What a liar!

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